Do you own your body?

[KeithD]

That's because a fetus isn't a person and a baby is. Which is why abortion doesn't involve babies, it involves fetuses. And why the argument of abortion is not about babies, it's about pregnancy.

Isn't it really about reactionary male control?

 

[rockcasbah]

GQP: Women have a right to choose one medical procedure (injection of vaccine), but not another (termination of pregnancy).

Ever hear the expression “ You’re eating for 2 now.” ?

Maybe that will help you and the others having trouble with the subject.

 

[ll74]

Ever hear the expression “ You’re eating for 2 now.” ?

Maybe that will help you and the others having trouble with the subject.

Strange enough, the colloquialism is not binding in court. People who stop eating when they have a tumor lose weight....

 

[KeithD]

Ever hear the expression “ You’re eating for 2 now.” ?

Maybe that will help you and the others having trouble with the subject.

Well, now, isn't that as lame as the rest of your argument on this?

I presume that being pro-life means you are anti putting rapid-fire weapons in the hands of civilians. If not, what is the difference, good buddy? It can't be support for human rights, as you are denying that right to all women.

 

[rockcasbah]

Well, now, isn't that as lame as the rest of your argument on this?

I presume that being pro-life means you are anti putting rapid-fire weapons in the hands of civilians. If not, what is the difference, good buddy? It can't be support for human rights, as you are denying that right to all women.

As usual, you are wrong, Pilot.

I support abortion within the bounds determined under Canadian law.

I’m also anti firearm except for typical rural and hunting use in the Canadian framework.

The nonsense Adrina is spouting is crazy. See my other posts in this thread. Cheers.

 

[Dribble]

Actually...

The moment you're born, certain rights attach. At the moment just prior to birth, those rights haven't yet attached.

This is done by both historical tradition and operation of law. So, while there isn't any "ceremony" something does indeed happen at the moment of birth.

Exactly. So if a woman...miscarriages...and let's say it was non-genetic...should it be 2nd degree murder? See...it can't be one without the other. So which is it?

 

[Wrong Element]

These abortion threads are reminders that as annoying as Vette and Busybody are, at least neither of them have ever claimed to be a "libertarian" in the same breath where they're endorsing the government reaching into one's uterus.

 

[rockcasbah]

Is there a Leasing option for womens bodies until the market for ownership stabilizes?

 

[rockcasbah]

ProChoicers I saw on the News should choose to shave their pits.

 

[La_Fina]

It is well known on this board that...
<--- is an Ass.

Now, let's discuss your real issues instead of my disbelief in your past.

Why on earth would i engage with someone who has no intenton of accepting my lived reality?

In the immortal words of David Lynch:

FIX YOUR HEART OR DIE.

 

[KeithD]

As usual, you are wrong, Pilot.

I support abortion within the bounds determined under Canadian law.

I’m also anti firearm except for typical rural and hunting use in the Canadian framework.

The nonsense Adrina is spouting is crazy. See my other posts in this thread. Cheers.

Perhaps you should contain yourself to the problems of your own country and stop pontificating about mine.

 

[rockcasbah]

Perhaps you should contain yourself to the problems of your own country and stop pontificating about mine.

Thanks, but I like seeing how the other half lives.

 

[LittleDixie]

You want to say that the fetus is a human with human rights. However you say it has rights which no human has.

No. It has a right not to be murdered. That's all. If your body continues to support and feed it, then that is something YOU are doing. No one is forcing you to do that. They only thing they are saying is that you can't kill the fetus.

 

[rockcasbah]

She spent over 5 years growing a pineapple…but if she goes out for shots of penis juice, she hasn’t got time to grow a human?

Adrina, would your grow a pineapple farmer’s spawn?

C’mon work with us here.

 

[adrina]

No. It has a right not to be murdered. That's all. If your body continues to support and feed it, then that is something YOU are doing. No one is forcing you to do that. They only thing they are saying is that you can't kill the fetus.

Abortion is an act of self defense. One may take the life of another in defense of their own. Period.

Again, why does a fetus get rights as a human which no human has?

 

[Dribble]

No. It has a right not to be murdered. That's all. If your body continues to support and feed it, then that is something YOU are doing. No one is forcing you to do that. They only thing they are saying is that you can't kill the fetus.

Have you read the quote from Thomas yet?

 

[jaF0]

Abortion is an act of self defense. One may take the life of another in defense of their own.

Not the way to win that argument.

It's a simple matter of choice affecting only one person.

 

[adrina]

Not the way to win that argument.

It's a simple matter of choice affecting only one person.

The reality is that abortion IS an act of self defense. And yes it is a matter of choice.

 

[rockcasbah]

The reality is that abortion IS an act of self defense. And yes it is a matter of choice.

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[KeithD]

Not the way to win that argument.

It's a simple matter of choice affecting only one person.

Precisely. Those who don't want to have an abortion don't have to have one. Those whose (supposed) religious beliefs are that it's a living human being at the point of conception can have those beliefs for themselves--without imposing them on others. Perhaps when they start showing that they have some concern for the baby's life after birth--which damn few of them are doing now--maybe they'd have a better argument.

 

[rockcasbah]

why is it okay to kill your child at 12 weeks but not at 12 years?

 

[ll74]

why is it okay to kill your child at 12 weeks but not at 12 years?

It's not ok at any time.

 

[rockcasbah]

It's not ok at any time.

(Obviously has no kids)

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Again, why can't the government compel organ donation in order to preserve the life of another?

No one has been able to answer this question.

Obfuscation, deflection, excuses.

I'll quote https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20114003/



Yet there are those who treat gestation differently and who focus on the fetus - the organ recipient instead of the organ donor - the gestating woman.

Why is gestation different?

(Obviously has no kids)

Very obvious, and characteristic of most of the Dobbs grievance porn posters on this board.

 

[adrina]

Most women who have abortions are already mothers.