Do you own your body?

[jaF0]

If your going to fuck!, then except the consequences.

YeahRight .....

 

[Dribble]

If I own my body....why do the Republicans want to outlaw contraception? Is sperm a baby?

 

[rockcasbah]

Curious.

Then why can't the government compel organ donation?

One Canadian Province has legislated presumed organ donation.

I think it’s the only jurisdiction in North America to do so.

 

[rockcasbah]

Will Adrina’s body be auctioned off at one of those unclaimed bicycle sales?

( she used to have nice little tits in that wet tank top pic she used to post here when she still liked men)

 

[Dribble]

One Canadian Province has legislated presumed organ donation.

I think it’s the only jurisdiction in North America to do so.

Why the fuck would I want my organs to potentially save a Republican? Until I get a choice how my body parts are used....I have removed my consent to be used. Same with blood. I refuse to donate anything to a Republican

 

[LittleDixie]

The Fetus has human rights. You don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient, in the same way that you don't get to kill pedestrians just because you don't want to wait and let them cross the street. Yes, you are correct, that once a human being is living inside of you, you can't do whatever you want, but it doesn't justify killing it.

 

[ll74]

The Fetus has human rights. You don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient, in the same way that you don't get to kill pedestrians just because you don't want to wait and let them cross the street. Yes, you are correct, that once a human being is living inside of you, you can't do whatever you want, but it doesn't justify killing it.

No, it doesn't. And the law isn't about whether the fetus has rights....it's about when and how or if a woman is able to end her pregnancy

 

[Dribble]

The Fetus has human rights. You don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient, in the same way that you don't get to kill pedestrians just because you don't want to wait and let them cross the street. Yes, you are correct, that once a human being is living inside of you, you can't do whatever you want, but it doesn't justify killing it.

So why outlaw contraception? Why prevent kids from being murdered? I will wait.

 

[LittleDixie]

No, it doesn't. And the law isn't about whether the fetus has rights....it's about when and how or if a woman is able to end her pregnancy

ending the pregnancy means ending the life of the fetus. Which has the same human rights you do.

 

[LittleDixie]

So why outlaw contraception? Why prevent kids from being murdered? I will wait.

Who outlawed contraception?

 

[adrina]

The Fetus has human rights. You don't get to kill it because it is inconvenient, in the same way that you don't get to kill pedestrians just because you don't want to wait and let them cross the street. Yes, you are correct, that once a human being is living inside of you, you can't do whatever you want, but it doesn't justify killing it.

No it doesn't.

Yes a woman does.

Actually they get to do that now in Iowa and Florida and a few others.

Why do you give rights to a fetus which no human has?

 

[adrina]

ending the pregnancy means ending the life of the fetus. Which has the same human rights you do.

No it doesn't.

I don't get to demand physical material support from another human to preserve my life.

A fetus has more rights now than any human being.

 

[LittleDixie]

No it doesn't.

Yes a woman does.

Actually they get to do that now in Iowa and Florida and a few others.

Why do you give rights to a fetus which no human has?

Okay, prove that. Prove that a fetus does not have human rights besides just saying it.

I give a fetus the same right that I give you: not to be killed when it becomes inconvenient for someone else.

 

[adrina]

Okay, prove that. Prove that a fetus does not have human rights besides just saying it.

I give a fetus the same right that I give you: not to be killed when it becomes inconvenient for someone else.

Prove that they do. You're the one who contended that they have human rights without one speck of proof.

Now you want me to prove they don't. Another whackadoodle moment.

No actually you are granting the fetus rights to demand and receive physical material support regardless of the donor. No human, no person, no being has this right. Why do you think a fetus gets a right no one else does and further, how is being able to compel physical material support from another a human right?

 

[LittleDixie]

Okay, when would you argue that a human being is given human rights? When is the moment where it is not ok to kill them?

 

[adrina]

Okay, when would you argue that a human being is given human rights? When is the moment where it is not ok to kill them?

No darling, no skirting it with the usual deflection bullshit.

How is compelling physical material support to preserve your life a human right?

 

[HisArpy]

My first thought was how horrible that any person would have to go through such horrible things when they're a teenager.

Instead of commemorate her for riding above such terrible things you choose to question her choice to be here? I'm just surprised you didn't ask her what she was wearing when she was attacked.

it might be a good idea to take a look at your words and actions and figure out when the hell you lost any semblance of compassion and humanity because you're truly a reprehensible person.

You act like this site isn't filled with people who lie about who they are or their reasons for being here.

It makes me wonder about you.

 

[LittleDixie]

No darling, no skirting it with the usual deflection bullshit.

How is compelling physical material support to preserve your life a human right?

Not deflecting. I was asking you a question. But, let me answer it for you.

There is no ceremony that takes place during birth that grants a fetus human rights. There is no light from the sky, no voice from beyond, no blooming lotus flowers that signals any significant change between a fetus 5 seconds before it is born and 5 seconds after it is born. There is no event that takes place that grants human rights, and if you don't have human rights in the womb, there is nothing that gives them to you after you are born.

Fetuses have human rights because fetus is a human. If you look at the biology of human development, you will see that human beings begin when a sperm and an egg join and the genetics resolve themselves into a unique combination. Once this happens, this is a human, and if we are to live in a world where human rights exist at all, then we must say that all human beings have these rights.

As far as compelling physical material support - your body agreed to produce this human being. Whether your conscious brain did or not. Your body created the fetus. Your body is providing for the fetus. Your body is the part of you that is on board with providing physical material support. Your problem is with the continued support your own body is giving to the fetus. No one else is forcing you to support it - they are just saying you can't actively kill it.

 

[HisArpy]

Let me sum it up for you: you're a fucking idiot who doesnt know what they are talking about

It is well known on this board that...
<--- is an Ass.

Now, let's discuss your real issues instead of my disbelief in your past.

 

[rockcasbah]

Wow, adrina is a fetus-hater.

What did a fetus ever do to you????

 

[HisArpy]

There is no ceremony that takes place during birth that grants a fetus human rights.

Actually...

The moment you're born, certain rights attach. At the moment just prior to birth, those rights haven't yet attached.

This is done by both historical tradition and operation of law. So, while there isn't any "ceremony" something does indeed happen at the moment of birth.

 

[ll74]

Not deflecting. I was asking you a question. But, let me answer it for you.

There is no ceremony that takes place during birth that grants a fetus human rights. There is no light from the sky, no voice from beyond, no blooming lotus flowers that signals any significant change between a fetus 5 seconds before it is born and 5 seconds after it is born. There is no event that takes place that grants human rights, and if you don't have human rights in the womb, there is nothing that gives them to you after you are born.

Fetuses have human rights because fetus is a human. If you look at the biology of human development, you will see that human beings begin when a sperm and an egg join and the genetics resolve themselves into a unique combination. Once this happens, this is a human, and if we are to live in a world where human rights exist at all, then we must say that all human beings have these rights.

As far as compelling physical material support - your body agreed to produce this human being. Whether your conscious brain did or not. Your body created the fetus. Your body is providing for the fetus. Your body is the part of you that is on board with providing physical material support. Your problem is with the continued support your own body is giving to the fetus. No one else is forcing you to support it - they are just saying you can't actively kill it.

So please tell us all what "human rights" are. What do they entail and what legal method are they enforced here in the US.

 

[adrina]

Not deflecting. I was asking you a question. But, let me answer it for you.

There is no ceremony that takes place during birth that grants a fetus human rights. There is no light from the sky, no voice from beyond, no blooming lotus flowers that signals any significant change between a fetus 5 seconds before it is born and 5 seconds after it is born. There is no event that takes place that grants human rights, and if you don't have human rights in the womb, there is nothing that gives them to you after you are born.

Fetuses have human rights because fetus is a human. If you look at the biology of human development, you will see that human beings begin when a sperm and an egg join and the genetics resolve themselves into a unique combination. Once this happens, this is a human, and if we are to live in a world where human rights exist at all, then we must say that all human beings have these rights.

As far as compelling physical material support - your body agreed to produce this human being. Whether your conscious brain did or not. Your body created the fetus. Your body is providing for the fetus. Your body is the part of you that is on board with providing physical material support. Your problem is with the continued support your own body is giving to the fetus. No one else is forcing you to support it - they are just saying you can't actively kill it.

You want to say that the fetus is a human with human rights. However you say it has rights which no human has.

Based on whether a person has sex. Interesting criteria.

Again, what makes compelled organ donation a human right? If you want to argue that a fetus has human rights and give the fetus the right to compel physical material support then you are saying that compelled organ donation is a human right.

 

[ll74]

Actually...

The moment you're born, certain rights attach. At the moment just prior to birth, those rights haven't yet attached.

This is done by both historical tradition and operation of law. So, while there isn't any "ceremony" something does indeed happen at the moment of birth.

That's because a fetus isn't a person and a baby is. Which is why abortion doesn't involve babies, it involves fetuses. And why the argument of abortion is not about babies, it's about pregnancy.

 

[jaF0]

GQP: Women have a right to choose one medical procedure (injection of vaccine), but not another (termination of pregnancy).