Do you own your body?

[RandyRebecca]

Diverse opinions on the topic. My take on the Gallup poll is those who advocate abortion on demand beyond 15 weeks, especially those who live in states with more lenient abortion policies, should be wary of letting Congress set a national policy.

24 weeks on demand everywhere is what I believe. Beyond that, if the fetus is not viable or if there's a danger to the woman's physical health or her life. And like I said before, any person who has a moral objection to abortion can simply choose not to have one.

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I agree with the tweet and what Amy says is true. However, isn't it better to think for yourself rather than let a magazine do it for you?

I just don't understand those people who prefer to just let "the news" tell them everything, like downloading information into their brains, so that they never have to critically think for themselves. Every newspaper and magazine has a propaganda agenda of some sort, and none of them are "neutral" or "impartial" or "unbiased".

 

[phrodeau]

North Dakota Right to Life successfully lobbied for lots of new abortion restrictions, and now that they’re finished, they fired all the staff.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2023/06/16/n...-board-doesnt-renew-contracts/?outputType=amp

 

[RandyRebecca]

North Dakota Right to Life successfully lobbied for lots of new abortion restrictions, and now that they’re finished, they fired all the staff.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2023/06/16/n...-board-doesnt-renew-contracts/?outputType=amp

Typical conservatives.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1670915464115920896

https://twitter.com/x/status/1670916609790148610

https://twitter.com/x/status/1670921695148797952

 

[butters]

judge orders 2 gopers to get the fuck over their disagreement and restore abortion rights

Cole County Presiding Judge Jon Beetem ordered Attorney General Andrew Bailey to approve fellow Republican Auditor Scott Fitzpatrick's estimated $51,000 price tag on the proposal within 24 hours.

Bailey had refused to approve the price estimate, arguing that if the proposal were to succeed, it could cost the state as much as a million times more than that figure because of lost Medicaid funding or lost revenue that wouldn’t be collected from people who otherwise would be born.

gotta keep birthing those sprogs to be milked down the line, right? at least he was putting forward his honest reasons, i guess, instead of just screaming "oh, the murdered bayyyyyyyybeeeeees!"

“There is an absolute absence of authority to conclude the Attorney General is permitted to send the Auditor’s fiscal note summary back to revision simply because he disagrees with the Auditor’s estimated cost or savings of a proposed measure,” Beetem wrote in his ruling.

If approved by voters, the proposal would enshrine in the constitution the individual right to make decisions about abortion, childbirth and birth control.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=a5bfc5d4a93043a7baeceeda1453c6c7&ei=16

 

[jaF0]

Majority of OB-GYNs believe overturning Roe led to more maternal deaths: Survey​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|45 minutes ago
A new survey released early Wednesday from KFF found 64% of OB-GYNs in the U.S. believe pregnancy related mortality has worsened since the Dobbs decision.

 

[jaF0]

Controversial Virginia state Senator Joe Morrissey, one of the few anti-abortion Democrats still serving, was defeated in the Democratic primary—delivering an indirect blow to the state's Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin.

Virginia, an almost-swing state where the legislature is currently politically split, is one of the few states which hold legislative races in odd-numbered years, unlike most of the country. Morrissey was among only two Virginia incumbents who lost to their challengers, together with Republican Senator Amanda Chase, who was defeated by lawyer Glen Sturtevant.

The Democratic senator, one of the state's most controversial political figures, was unseated by challenger Lashrecse Aird, a 36-year-old former state legislator who has declared herself to be an unapologetic "100%" supporter of abortion rights.

https://www.newsweek.com/glenn-youngkin-anti-abortion-democrat-ousted-joe-morrissey-virginia-1808070

 

[Dribble]

I own mine

But women...in the US...you rank behind Rwanda

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/economy/wef-global-gender-gap/index.html

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672767091840090113

 

[jaF0]

It wouold be nice to see the 'Pukes essentially voted out of office nationwide in '24 .....

Indiana Supreme Court upholds abortion ban, says state constitution gives only limited protections​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|47 minutes ago
Besides Indiana, enforcement of restrictions are on hold as courts decide the cases in Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Utah and Wyoming. In North Dakota, lawmakers adopted a different ban since to replace the one that was blocked. And in South Carolina, another ban has been put into place - and it, too, has been put on hold by a court.



.... but it isn't likely.

 

[RandyRebecca]

That previously blocked Indiana law is for a total ban on abortion in the state.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1676439398634893313

 

[Plasmaball]

You must be a man. An American woman will not be able to answer "yes". Or even "mostly". Let alone be glib about it.

In the end? Yes. They can't really stop you from killing yourself. Only if you failed.
It's just like guns and drugs. You wint be able to stop women from having abortions.

 

[adrina]

In the end? Yes. They can't really stop you from killing yourself. Only if you failed.
It's just like guns and drugs. You wint be able to stop women from having abortions.

Except that that is exactly what is happening. A woman in Texas just got to bury her encephalitic infant because Texas made it impossible for her to get an abortion. An estimated 200k women have been forced into fetal slavery since Roe was overturned. There are more women who live in states hostile to abortion than there are women who live in states supportive of abortion rights.

Glibness is easy when it's not your life. Right?

 

[Plasmaball]

Except that that is exactly what is happening. A woman in Texas just got to bury her encephalitic infant because Texas made it impossible for her to get an abortion. An estimated 200k women have been forced into fetal slavery since Roe was overturned. There are more women who live in states hostile to abortion than there are women who live in states supportive of abortion rights.

Glibness is easy when it's not your life. Right?

You can never ever get it to zero was my point

 

[adrina]

You can never ever get it to zero was my point

They are trying. And in the meantime, women are condemned to fetal slavery and other horrors because a medical treatment is being criminalized by (majority) men who are governing from a place of histrionics, all while never experiencing it. And instead of deferring to medical experts, they are deferring to their hysteria.

And again, in the meantime, it is the women who are condemned to deal with the consequences. Just for simply *gasp* having sex.

 

[Plasmaball]

They are trying. And in the meantime, women are condemned to fetal slavery and other horrors because a medical treatment is being criminalized by (majority) men who are governing from a place of histrionics, all while never experiencing it. And instead of deferring to medical experts, they are deferring to their hysteria.

And again, in the meantime, it is the women who are condemned to deal with the consequences. Just for simply *gasp* having sex.

Everyone is trying to do a lot of things.

Mind you we are gonna agree here on the abortion subject

 

[jaF0]

Ohio abortion amendment has necessary signatures to appear on ballot, organizers say​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|46 minutes ago
A group backing an Ohio abortion rights amendment turned in more signatures than the 413,000 needed on Wednesday.

 

[adrina]

Everyone is trying to do a lot of things.

Mind you we are gonna agree here on the abortion subject

My issue is that abortion has been more of a taken for granted afterthought with the shrug of "well women will find a way". The reality is that it is important - especially now - to be militantly pro abortion. Laissez faire isn't an option.

 

[Plasmaball]

My issue is that abortion has been more of a taken for granted afterthought with the shrug of "well women will find a way". The reality is that it is important - especially now - to be militantly pro abortion. Laissez faire isn't an option.

That's because people didn't expect scotus to do this. They never took the right seriously.

Get what you pay for

 

[adrina]

That's because people didn't expect scotus to do this. They never took the right seriously.

Get what you pay for

They weren't paying attention. They were warned. Repeatedly.

Buttery males were more important than the environment, reproductive rights, worker rights, gay rights and a myriad of other things.

 

[Plasmaball]

They weren't paying attention. They were warned. Repeatedly.

Buttery males were more important than the environment, reproductive rights, worker rights, gay rights and a myriad of other things.

Buttery?
Like men rubbing land o lakes on their bodies?

 

[adrina]

Buttery?
Like men rubbing land o lakes on their bodies?

But her emails.

 

[Plasmaball]

But her emails.

Buttery males was better honestly.

 

[RandyRebecca]

My issue is that abortion has been more of a taken for granted afterthought with the shrug of "well women will find a way". The reality is that it is important - especially now - to be militantly pro abortion. Laissez faire isn't an option.

Militantly pro-choice, I'd say. A person's individual morality on abortion is their own business, and pro-choice laws don't interfere with an individual's moral conscience, unlike anti-choice laws that force morality onto people who completely disagree with that morality while punishing the poorest women and families in society.