Disturbing Statistics

[Boxlicker101]

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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
They are not all that disturbing to me.

I would say these things are more the concern of the mothers AND FATHERS than the little girls involved.

Of course it's a concern to the parents, or it should be. A little girl should be encourage to improve her mind, to be a good friend and to love herself and all her special gifts. Teaching her that everything will work out if she just wears enough makeup or that special helper bra is a recipe for disaster. Have you ever seen a 13-year-old suffering from anorexia? Have you seen a 12-year-old who just gave birth? I remember a girl that age having a baby in the next room over from me when I had my daughter. The nurses had to shut the TV off so she would feed her baby instead of watching cartoons. At 12 or 13, a child should not be having babies or starving herself to death. She should be giggling, going to school, enjoying her childhood. Lack of self-esteem can kill. In girls, it can be more deadly than with any other component of society.

I have no disagreement with you, except that you are apparently ignoring the ages given in the OP. That was about girls between three and six being concerned with their weight and girls under 12 wearing makeup. I would guess there are far more children that age who are obese than who are anorexic, and that parents should be concerned with this. They should be concerned with both, of course, but obesity is probably greater problem, and one her parents should deal with.

I also agree with what you said about makeup, etc.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Jeeeze.

Box.

AH's very own Tunnel Vision poster child.

Although some ages were mentioned in OP, they were in no way implied or stated to be the sole ages referred to. They were, to be more accurate, a range of ages. "under the age of twelve" most absolutely includes three years old as well as eleven years old. If the author had meant to limit the parameters they would have made that limit more explicit.

 

[SweetWitch]

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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
They are not all that disturbing to me.

I would say these things are more the concern of the mothers AND FATHERS than the little girls involved.




I have no disagreement with you, except that you are apparently ignoring the ages given in the OP. That was about girls between three and six being concerned with their weight and girls under 12 wearing makeup. I would guess there are far more children that age who are obese than who are anorexic, and that parents should be concerned with this. They should be concerned with both, of course, but obesity is probably greater problem, and one her parents should deal with.

I also agree with what you said about makeup, etc.

Yes, dear man, I know what ages were mentioned. Anorexia or obesity don't start all sudden-like. Eating disorders begin with 3-6-year-old children who are concerned with their weight. It begins with the belief that if they look perfect, people will love them. Instead, they should learn to love themselves and others will follow. They should also learn that when someone cannot love them for who they are, they must realize the person in question isn't worth knowing.

It should also be understood that obesity and anorexia (and bolemia) can be considered two sides of the same coin. Each has a great deal to do with body image and low self-esteem. Obesity is considered a dietary problem (as mentioned earlier regarding fast- and processed foods), but it also comes from an all-to-common eating disorder. If food is the only comfort a child can feel, the child will try to fill the emptiness with all the food he or she can consume.

It starts young, with toddlers being taught that they have to be pretty to be accepted, instead of learning to play and get along with others. Then, as they grow, they see the images on TV and other media, showing young starlets and models with paint spackled on their faces and skinny figures clad in sexy clothing. They believe the hype, do harm to themselves and turn themselves into sexual objects before they have a chance to really know what it means to have a normal, healthy life. The innocence of childhood is lost.

 

[Harry Leg]

Yes, dear man, I know what ages were mentioned. Anorexia or obesity don't start all sudden-like. Eating disorders begin with 3-6-year-old children who are concerned with their weight. It begins with the belief that if they look perfect, people will love them. Instead, they should learn to love themselves and others will follow. They should also learn that when someone cannot love them for who they are, they must realize the person in question isn't worth knowing.

It should also be understood that obesity and anorexia (and bolemia) can be considered two sides of the same coin. Each has a great deal to do with body image and low self-esteem. Obesity is considered a dietary problem (as mentioned earlier regarding fast- and processed foods), but it also comes from an all-to-common eating disorder. If food is the only comfort a child can feel, the child will try to fill the emptiness with all the food he or she can consume.

It starts young, with toddlers being taught that they have to be pretty to be accepted, instead of learning to play and get along with others. Then, as they grow, they see the images on TV and other media, showing young starlets and models with paint spackled on their faces and skinny figures clad in sexy clothing. They believe the hype, do harm to themselves and turn themselves into sexual objects before they have a chance to really know what it means to have a normal, healthy life. The innocence of childhood is lost.

Thank you for articulating so eloquently what I could not

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

Do you also keep him from going to the beach?

He doesn't like the beach. but even if he did, that's different. Bodies on the beach a varied and generally natural. The beach is also an acceptable place to be half naked. Film clips present an unrealistic idea of what a woman should look like. I'd rather not have my son growing up thinking that that is the norm and anything else is undesirable.
PS he's 8

 

[Boxlicker101]

Jeeeze.

Box.

AH's very own Tunnel Vision poster child.

Although some ages were mentioned in OP, they were in no way implied or stated to be the sole ages referred to. They were, to be more accurate, a range of ages. "under the age of twelve" most absolutely includes three years old as well as eleven years old. If the author had meant to limit the parameters they would have made that limit more explicit.

This is true, but "between three and six" means "between three and six," and this is the range I cited in my most recent post.

If a three year old is wearing makeup, it is because she got into her sister's or mother's supply and smeared it on herself for fun, and not to make herself look beautiful.

 

[Exquisition]

II

Um ... oh, so wrong. My religious views are none of your business anyway.

For the last fucking time I AM A LIBERTARIAN! L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N. Got that?

Upon reflection, I don't think anyone here knows what a Neoconservative really is or espouses anyway ... it's just another knee-jerk pejorative Liberals use against anyone who disagrees with them ... like 'warmonger' or 'racist' or Fascist' or 'Nazi' or 'hater' or 'homophobe'.

Here, read about the much maligned 'Neo-Cons'. You just may find yourself agreeing with some of their views; unless you're so ideologically entrenched in Liberal thought you refuse to consider another point of view. If that's the case, I pity you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Just for the hell of it, here's what Libertarians think. For the record, I'm not married to any single ideology ... Libertarianism is about as close to how I think as it gets ... and I don't agree with it completely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

I have absolutely NO DESIRE to know what your religious views are if it's all the same to you. I just said you come over as a neocon to my mind,. And yes, I'm sure your version of a neocon differs to mine but broadly, we both know what a neocon is - so no real to ask me to define so you vent your frustrated spleen - don't be so obtuse.

 

[Exquisition]

Um ... oh, so wrong. My religious views are none of your business anyway.

For the last fucking time I AM A LIBERTARIAN! L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N. Got that?

Upon reflection, I don't think anyone here knows what a Neoconservative really is or espouses anyway ... it's just another knee-jerk pejorative Liberals use against anyone who disagrees with them ... like 'warmonger' or 'racist' or Fascist' or 'Nazi' or 'hater' or 'homophobe'.

Here, read about the much maligned 'Neo-Cons'. You just may find yourself agreeing with some of their views; unless you're so ideologically entrenched in Liberal thought you refuse to consider another point of view. If that's the case, I pity you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Just for the hell of it, here's what Libertarians think. For the record, I'm not married to any single ideology ... Libertarianism is about as close to how I think as it gets ... and I don't agree with it completely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

I am not a LIBERTARIAN I am a V E G E T A R I A N fundamentalist (with a small 'f').

 

[SweetWitch]

Thank you for articulating so eloquently what I could not

You're quite welcome. Pre-teen and teenage eating disorders are my specialty. I'm a survivor.