Did Bush have anything to do with 9/11

[Guest]

The question must be asked. Dis George W. Bush have advanced notice of9/11?
There are those that think that he may have actually been behind it. To Bush
the American people are mearly dollars and cents for big oil. Enron was involved
with Uzbeckestan concerning the worlds newest and largest reserves of oil. The
big problem is that Uzbeckestan is land locked. The best way to get the oil to
market would be a pipeline across Afganistan and the Taliban wasn't about to allow
that. The other way is a pipeline through China. Of corse the only way to toppple
the legimate government of a country, no matter what they are like, is to have a
good excuse like 9/11 to get the majority of Americans to allow its military to
overthrow the Taliban. Is the country swallowing the Bush line hook line and
sinker. Wasn't Bus in dire trouble in the polls prior to 9/11 and only 9/11 saved
him and allowed him to evade the horrible economy that he caused.
It certainly makes me wonder. I have noticed that the media is not giving
Bush the same treatment it gave Clinton. Look at the media blitz about everything
the Clintons were touched with. The Vince Foster thing. Has the same media did the
same with the suicide of the Enron Executive...Nooooo. Did the media make anything
of Bushs' lie about his drunk driving incident...Clinton was assasinated because
he got a blow job and lied to the country about it, something that was none of
our business anyway..yet Bush seems to have everything minimized just as everything
with Clinton was maximized by the media. Then I realize that the media is indeed
BIG BIG business. Take a look at the Bush daughters and neice. If Chelsea had as
much as sneezed the media would have been all over it.
What I see is some preferential treatment to a president who is incapable of
leading the country into a economic boom like Clinton did..Let me see what the
republican populace are saying..Clintons economy was due to Regan. Forget that
George Senion was there first and also ruined his economy just as his son is doing.
But what do the republican zelots say...The economy is bad for Bush because it was
Clintons fault....And they get away with it...Not with me though..I see what I see
and do not give a fuck how much people try to say that I do not know what I am
talking about...What was Clinton doing that was so bad to get the Republicans
so upset..lets see..Clinton was trying to encourage peace in the middle east. He
was also trying to get research to come up with an alternative fuel to oil wheras
Bush not only stopped research in this direction but went so far as to say that
it wasn't necessary to even develope more gas economical systems for autos..In
other words use oil..lots of it..And a meek subdued public makes no outcry
against it..Are Americans so pussywhipped that they not only allow it but raise
no voice against it...
Therefore I ask DID BUSH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???????

 

[Guest]

bush had every thing to do with it. Arabs want bush, but have to settle for packing the shit of boys.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Therefore I ask DID BUSH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???????

Oh, probably...

But he certainly didn't have anything to do with you failing English class.

 

[Guest]

you goddamn commie terrorist basterd

How dare you defame the best President we have had since George Bush senior...People like you should be hunted down and hung from the statue of liberty.
Clinton was a bad president and almost ruined the economy of America.
Only worthless minorities had jobs during Clinton because he gave all our
money away to them...

 

[Guest]

Actually I did rather well in English.

Once my English professor made a comment about my spelling. I told him that to know that a word is
misspelled you have to be able to know what the person was saying and that the purpose of any
communication was to get your point across and that
spelling of words have changed so much over time that it is not really that important except extremely anal retentive people. These people have
such a tight spincter that all their shit comes out through their minds....

 

[MunchinMark]

And you still did well in English after saying that?

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Actually I did rather well in English.

Once my English professor made a comment about my spelling. I told him that to know that a word is
misspelled you have to be able to know what the person was saying and that the purpose of any
communication was to get your point across and that
spelling of words have changed so much over time that it is not really that important except extremely anal retentive people. These people have
such a tight spincter that all their shit comes out through their minds....

I even agreed with you, Dude. In fact, I wrote an inflamatory paper on the subj (And smartly didn't have it pub'd)

 

[gbd]

voiceofamerica - you are one stupid ass. to think that bush, or any of the intelligence gatherers, could keep secret such a vile act from the citizens of the usa, shows incredible stupidity. to me it is incomprehensible that any one could think such foolishness, much less put it on paper for all the world to see. do the world a favor and get neutered, the world does not need any more ignorant people like you.

 

[LukkyKnight]

voiceofamerica - you are one stupid ass. to think that bush, or any of the intelligence gatherers, could keep secret such a vile act from the citizens of the usa, shows incredible stupidity. to me it is incomprehensible that any one could think such foolishness, much less put it on paper for all the world to see. do the world a favor and get neutered, the world does not need any more ignorant people like you.

ROTFL! gbd, criticize all you like, but while the guest's use of the language detracts from his content, your unsubstantiated, knee-jerk reaction in a paragraph which eschews capitalizing the first letter in a sentence doesn't exactly put you in the mensa set. Just because a thing is incomprehensible doesn't make it not so. It was incomprehensible that man could fly, that the world wasn't flat, that we could survive in space long enough to reach the moon, that bacteria caused most diseases, or that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor. Cite one argument in support of your assertion, please. Attacking the person with rhetoric such as "get neutered" is hardly persuasive debate. All you've managed so far is to underline your lack of credulity. Take another turn at it.

 

[p_p_man]

Governments are capable of doing...

anything.

I don't think he was involved in the World Trade Cente but he wouldn't be the President, and specifically Bush, if his thoughts didn't wander what impact another atrocity would have on the waning support for his "war" on terrorism...

ppman

 

[talk2024]

my theory is that all of the 'guests' are the same person with some split-personality disorder and I'm anxious to see how he resolves the two sides of his extreme personas...

*waiting*

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Just because a thing is incomprehensible doesn't make it not so. Cite one argument in support of your assertion, please. Attacking the person with rhetoric such as "get neutered" is hardly persuasive debate. All you've managed so far is to underline your lack of credulity. Take another turn at it.

What exactly would you expect him to argue, LukkyKnight? There wasn't one single piece of substantial evidence offered to support this preposterous claim that Bush was involved in the WTC attacks, only some extremely speculative and dubious claims about potential motives.

If you expect someone to debate you, you ought to at least offer some valid arguments yourself. To use one of your examples, had Pasteur and Koch argued for the germ theory of disease without the considerable evidence they did, they would've still been right, but they wouldn't have earned so much more than a passing glance from the scientific community.

When one makes the argument that the leader of one of the freest nations on earth (and one that is usually held up as an example of a nation that respects individual rights) has conspired to intentionally kill thousands of his own citizens, the burden of proof is on him, not the disbeliever. This should be self-evident.

If you have some serious accusations and some evidence, let's hear it. Otherwise, these kind of conspiracy theories seem nothing more than the wishful thinking of those who have a political bone to pick with Bush and are frustrated as all hell that he's so wildly popular (are you reading this, Peeps? )

 

[Siren]

 

[Lasz]

Can I just say that whoever posted this thread posted a really shitty one.

Laz

 

[SempreAngela]

VoiceOfAmerica? I don't think so because I am an American and you do not speak for me. It must be nice to have so much time on your hands that you sit down and think up fables such as this. Why not come up with something like, "...the airlines were behind it all, they needed new planes"? Or "The people of New York were behind it, they were tired of The World Trade Center blocking the view"? Maybe the corporation that owned the World Trade Center did it for the insurance???? Use your imagination for some good like erotic stories or something but good grief, this one is ludicrous!! Actually, I think it was Mrs. Peabody in the observatory with the candlestick. Now you take it from there and tell us what Mrs. Peabody was doing with the candlestick.

 

[p_p_man]

Reading these posts...

Is thinking the unthinkable somehow unthinkable to y'all?

ppman

 

[gbd]

in a paragraph which eschews capitalizing the first letter in a sentence doesn't exactly put you in the mensa set.

Gee, I apologize LukkyKnight for my not captalizing the first letter in each sentence. Did I upset your feelings? Are you some English teacher wanna-be? Do you go and grade every reply on every thread at Literotica? GET A LIFE! This is supposed to be free form and let everyone type what they want. Notice I did not comment on voiceofamerica's inability to spell or his/her's lack of sentence structure. JUST the unadulterated bullshit that he/she was spewing.

Pick any part of his garbage that you feel is credible and we can debate it.

But I will not participate in the "throw as much shit at the wall as possible, see what sticks, and call it the thruth" crap that voiceofamerica tries.

 

[Guest]

...And the conspiracy theories begin.... sheesh...

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Re: Reading these posts...

Is thinking the unthinkable somehow unthinkable to y'all?

ppman

lThere's a difference between "thinking in the unthinkable" and indulging in conspiracy theories without any evidence, but I'd expect you not to appreciate the difference. You really would love for this idea to be true, wouldn't you? Nothing would please you more than for Bush to be shown to be worse than Osama bin Laden! Oh how sweet it would be to your little PP soul!

Myself, though, I personally think the WTC attacks were perpetuated by doddering English men with with flaming jealousies of America and questionable reasoning skills.

But I have no evidence so I'll hold back.

 

[SweetBrat73]

Oliver Clozoff...I love what you say and how you say it

SempreAngela...I agree with everything she said...he isn't one to speak for this American either!!! Plus I'd love to hear what Mrs. Peabody is doing with the candlestick

Siren...I'm going with you on this one too

<----says it all



Brat

 

[LukkyKnight]

LMAO

You can't win if you settle for his level, don't you see that? One point made instead of unsubstantiated spouting would be refreshing on either side of this one. My point for you to consider is that while I don't see evidence for Bush being the culpable party, a personal attack on those who assert it makes no progress towards the refutation of their claims, it only appears to be the manical ranting of a closed mind.

I never argued for his point, I don't see that there's anything useful or concrete there (although I concede one must be aware that such action is obviously possible.) I offer no advice to anoymous guests. You, as a registered user, are free to do with my opinions whatever suits you - but understand that while I will engage you I won't necessarily accept an "attack-only" style as a valid form of debate, let alone condone it in dealing with anonymous trolls.

Your apology is accepted.

Gee, I apologize LukkyKnight for my not captalizing the first letter in each sentence. Did I upset your feelings? Are you some English teacher wanna-be? Do you go and grade every reply on every thread at Literotica? GET A LIFE! This is supposed to be free form and let everyone type what they want. Notice I did not comment on voiceofamerica's inability to spell or his/her's lack of sentence structure. JUST the unadulterated bullshit that he/she was spewing.

Pick any part of his garbage that you feel is credible and we can debate it.

But I will not participate in the "throw as much shit at the wall as possible, see what sticks, and call it the thruth" crap that voiceofamerica tries.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Re: Reading these posts...

Is thinking the unthinkable somehow unthinkable to y'all?

ppman

One trusts you have read "Killing Time" by Caleb Carr - if not, by all means do so.

 

[SempreAngela]

Re: Governments are capable of doing...

Go get em LukkyKnight! And P_P_Man, I trust you have read, "Alice in Wonderland" by Lewis Carroll? It's just as believable as VoiceOfAmerica's little fable.




*edited because I put the wrong quote by P_P_Man in here. It was a conspiracy by the Cheshire Cat that made me mess up.*

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Governments are capable of doing...

*edited because I put the wrong quote by P_P_Man in here. It was a conspiracy by the Cheshire Cat that made me mess up.*

 

[LukkyKnight]

"anoymous" guests

Go get em LukkyKnight! And P_P_Man, I trust you have read, "Alice in Wonderland" by Lewis Carroll? It's just as believable as VoiceOfAmerica's little fable.




*edited because I put the wrong quote by P_P_Man in here. It was a conspiracy by the Cheshire Cat that made me mess up.*

"...manical ranting"? I need a proofreader, or an editor, or somebody willing to say, "What the fuck are you thinking?" I appreciate the enthusiastic urging, but it is the height of folly to have undertaken such a discussion, as several have been kind enough to point out to me.

If you're not making mistakes you're not shooting your mouth off, right?