Deporting US citizens?

[DeluxAuto]

I've just pointed out that outsourcing incarceration (amazing that your sort complains about outsourcing anything else, from making toys to building cars!), which is a function of the justice system of any responsible nation, is utterly absurd.

You talk about 12v batteries. Maybe you're thinking about the punishments meted out in the kinds of nations you'd like to ship your convicted criminals (or in the case of that guy sent to CECOT, unconvicted non-criminals) to?

You can always tell when barrister braindead has lost.

 

[dolf]

This is Google maps, literally took a screenshot and came straight here. That stain looks... concerning.

 

[HisArpy]

I've just pointed out that outsourcing incarceration (amazing that your sort complains about outsourcing anything else, from making toys to building cars!), which is a function of the justice system of any responsible nation, is utterly absurd.

The justice system doesn't do the incarceration bit, that's left to the penal system.

But you either knew that and decided to just make up shit and lie because whatever is going on in the world that conservatives like, you're against it; or you didn't know it but decided to expound like you're an expert at it.

You talk about 12v batteries. Maybe you're thinking about the punishments meted out in the kinds of nations you'd like to ship your convicted criminals (or in the case of that guy sent to CECOT, unconvicted non-criminals) to?

1. If you don't know about the 12v battery thing, maybe you should shut up and take your seat. While you're sitting there all quiet and studious, you should consider whether advocating for overall safety is better or worse than advocating for potentially risky shit like some here do. And then decide which side of that equation you're on.
2. El Salvador is a signatory to the anti-torture accords so they don't do torture in CECOT. Whoever told you they do, lied to you and you swallowed the entire load. And you didn't even need a Coke afterward.
3. Garcia was in the US illegally. He had his day in court where the court found him deportable. He appealed and the immigration appeals board ALSO found him deportable. Guess what happens next after that kind of thing goes down. Hint; Lefties get their panties bunched up someplace uncomfortable and start whining and lying again about how unfair everything is. Because Trump.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Incarcerating US citizen convicted criminals really isn't all that practical, as attractive as it may seem for the worst offenders. They, through their lawyers would be filing one Habeas Corpus brief after another necessitating more round trips for court appearances than you could shake a stick at. Like it or not we're probably stuck with the sons a bitches.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Desperate attention seeker and Republican Congressman Tim Burchett supports sending US citizens to jail in El Salvador.

He is also the lunatic that believes space aliens have bases under our oceans.

Anyway, he praised Trump’s “rule of law” even though Trump habitually doesn’t follow the law:

“Look, I don’t want Donald Trump teaching my daughter’s Sunday school class, but doggone I like him in the White House because he understands the rule of law, I feel like,” he continued.

Typical MAGA stable genius, but at least he acknowledged that Trump would be dangerous in a Sunday School class of girls.

 

[coati]

Harpy once again cautions us not to touch the terminals of a 12-volt car battery, because it's the amps, not the volts, that kill you.

 

[Hel_Books]

The justice system doesn't do the incarceration bit, that's left to the penal system.

But you either knew that and decided to just make up shit and lie because whatever is going on in the world that conservatives like, you're against it; or you didn't know it but decided to expound like you're an expert at it.



1. If you don't know about the 12v battery thing, maybe you should shut up and take your seat. While you're sitting there all quiet and studious, you should consider whether advocating for overall safety is better or worse than advocating for potentially risky shit like some here do. And then decide which side of that equation you're on.
2. El Salvador is a signatory to the anti-torture accords so they don't do torture in CECOT. Whoever told you they do, lied to you and you swallowed the entire load. And you didn't even need a Coke afterward.
3. Garcia was in the US illegally. He had his day in court where the court found him deportable. He appealed and the immigration appeals board ALSO found him deportable. Guess what happens next after that kind of thing goes down. Hint; Lefties get their panties bunched up someplace uncomfortable and start whining and lying again about how unfair everything is. Because Trump.

So the penal system isn't part of the justice system? Here's a link to US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons. It seems you don't know what you're talking about.

What's the "potentially risky shit" I'm supposed to be advocating for? Providing jobs for your own citizens by running prisons in your country instead of shelling out millions to El Salvador for them to run their prisons?

As I'm sure you're aware, from the millions paid out in lawsuits, prisons in the USA have from time to time been guilty of mistreating prisoners. If you think El Salvador is somehow different then maybe you should shut up and take your seat.

If Garcia's only offense was to be in the USA illegally (I notice you've stopped these unsupported claims that he's some sort of gang member) then why was he deported to a notorious prison, rather than just quietly flown to a civilian airport and released?

As for your President Trump, just remember that he's admitted Garcia was wrongfully deported, but your ultra-powerful unitary executive Orange Julius Caesar is too much of a wimp to do anything about it, despite the fact that you're paying El Salvador millions of dollars that might give him some leverage in the situation.

From Donald Trump to Pete "Signal" Hegseth to Kristi "Sorry Cricket" Noem to Linda "A1" McMahon to Pam "fuck over any law firm that disagrees with us" Bondi the USA government are a clown car.

 

[HisArpy]

Harpy once again cautions us not to touch the terminals of a 12-volt car battery, because it's the amps, not the volts, that kill you.

Yes. Because safety is always better than trying to prove your manhood by telling others to do risky shit.

But you do you. And if someone gets hurt because of it, I expect you'll run and hide while denying all responsibility and liability.

 

[Politruk]

2. El Salvador is a signatory to the anti-torture accords so they don't do torture in CECOT.

Not even you believe that.

 

[Politruk]

3. Garcia was in the US illegally. He had his day in court where the court found him deportable. He appealed and the immigration appeals board ALSO found him deportable.

None of that happened.

 

[Politruk]

Incarcerating US citizen convicted criminals really isn't all that practical

Practical enough that we have a larger percentage of our population incarcerated than almost any other country.

 

[Politruk]

Typical MAGA stable genius, but at least he acknowledged that Trump would be dangerous in a Sunday School class of girls.

He would get stuck on Two Corinthians.

 

[Hel_Books]

coati said:
Harpy once again cautions us not to touch the terminals of a 12-volt car battery, because it's the amps, not the volts, that kill you.

Yes. Because safety is always better than trying to prove your manhood by telling others to do risky shit.

But you do you. And if someone gets hurt because of it, I expect you'll run and hide while denying all responsibility and liability.

HisArpy knows about that, because HisArpy was tortured with shocks by a 12v battery when imprisoned in some banana republic.

 

[coati]

Yes. Because safety is always better than trying to prove your manhood by telling others to do risky shit.

But you do you. And if someone gets hurt because of it, I expect you'll run and hide while denying all responsibility and liability.

^^^Doubles down on the deadly perils of low-voltage circuits.

 

[HisArpy]

Not even you believe that.

Oh fuck me...

El Salvador is a State Party to the United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, having ratified it on June 17, 1996

WHEN are you going to admit you're an idjit? Because nearly everything you say is either wrongheaded or flat out false.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^Doubles down on the deadly perils of low-voltage circuits.

Not my fault you're an asshole.

 

[HisArpy]

None of that happened.

Someone as stupid as you thought so too. He was just as wrong as you are.

[In a] final order from an immigration judge issued Oct. 10, 2019... it says, “Exhibit 4 is a Prince George’s County Police Department Gang field interview sheet. It was issued for the limited purpose of showing that the respondent was labeled a gang member by law enforcement.”...

...on April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...ilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case/3893938/

 

[coati]

Not my fault you're an asshole.

I just notified AutoZone and Walmart to lock up all car batteries at their stores to prevent accidental electrocution.

 

[HisArpy]

I just notified AutoZone and Walmart to lock up all car batteries at their stores to prevent accidental electrocution.

Good, it'll work right alongside the OSHA sticker warning against electric shock hazards.

nb; I'll bet you didn't offer to pay for the retrofit, did you?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

1. If you don't know about the 12v battery thing, maybe you should shut up and take your seat.

@Hel_Books
Well Derpy, lets just let Hel read it then eh?

How can birds sit on high wires and not die?

Because they only sit on one leg of a circuit, you can sit there too and not get zapped dumbass...

Actually, I'm the guy telling you not to put your body parts across the terminals of a 12v battery. Because it's not safe no matter what "self professed experts" tell you.

Now I'm the guy telling you that continuing to act like a fool in public isn't helping your credibility.

On this melt down it starts at post 165...

Not my fault you jumped onto the stupid wagon too.

BTW, under "perfect conditions" you can't electrocute yourself with a 12v DC battery.

BUT...

When does the world have "perfect conditions" outside the lab or carefully created testing? All it takes to kill someone with 12v DC is enough sweat or something on the skin (like lotion or another substance of similar use) which will allow current to flow. The higher the available current, the more likely that it WILL find a way to complete the circuit.

That you don't consider that only shows that NONE OF YOU NITWITS have ever been down south in the summer. Instead you allow your internet based dislike to take you by the hand and lead you to follow the ASSHOLE who advocates playing with electricity.

To do that, KNOWING it's wrong, only shows that you really must be stupid.

This was an earlier meltdown, now wasn't it?

If you want a laugh Hel, just search Hisarpy and the word "battery.

There now he knows.....

 

[HisArpy]

@Hel_Books
Well Derpy, lets just let Hel read it then eh?





Because they only sit on one leg of a circuit, you can sit there too and not get zapped dumbass...

On this melt down it starts at post 165...

This was an early meltdown, now wasn't it?

If you want a laugh Hel, just search Hisarpy and the word "battery.

There now he knows.....

Everyone else knows that you stupidly decided to advocate for risky shit while declaiming responsibility for anything harmful occurring.

Basically, you're the asshole who throws a rock through someone's window and then runs like hell to avoid getting caught and punished for it. Basic juvenile thinking.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Everyone else knows that you stupidly decided to advocate for risky shit while declaiming responsibility for anything harmful occurring.

There is no risk of being electrocuted by a 12 volt car battery. There is a risk of chemical burns, and explosion, but not electrocution...But keep on flogging your dead horse. Maybe we can circle back to carbon water too. Many newbies here have missed out on that laugh...

 

[coati]

Anyway, this helps to explain Harpy's lack of
credibility for establishing legal facts.

 

[HisArpy]

Anyway, this helps to explain Harpy's lack of
credibility for establishing legal facts.

Advocating for safety equates to a lack of credibility?

What fucking planet are you on?

 

[HisArpy]

There is no risk of being electrocuted by a 12 volt car battery. There is a risk of chemical burns, and explosion, but not electrocution...But keep on flogging your dead horse. Maybe we can circle back to carbon water too. Many newbies here have missed out on that laugh...

Ordinarily, there's no risk. BUT that's under lab conditions, not real world conditions where people have conductive substances on their skin. Substances which allow electrical current to flow through the body.

But, you do you and keep on saying there's no risk. Meanwhile I'll keep telling people not to bridge across electrical terminals. Because safety.