Defining Love

[MT_Pitcher]

ok the subject of love ..

I think what comes to mind is "i'm Norah Jonesing"
Definition: The yearning to be in love-intense,sweet,sappy-love-song love.
You thinking , when oh when will someone take my hand and say, "Come away with me?" type love.
Norah Jonesing- The kind of love where you want to lose yourself in the pure, unsynthesized pleasure of true love, to feel that the sweetest songs in the world- are finally about you. The desire to feel truly,goopily, cozily in love.The kind of love that has you humming I've got to see you again....This is what all people want..and desire and derserve... and it comes around in different ways for some...no right ..no wrong...

Norah Jonesing!!! LOL
And which one are you? The Norah... or the Jones??

You're right though, it's something we all look for..
And it can come from the strangest directions.

Where was that starting line?

 

[dirtywhiteboy]

Here are some interesting quotes on the subject of love:


Falling in love consists merely in uncorking the imagination and bottling the common-sense.
~ Helen Rowland


Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction.
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupery


Love one another and you will be happy. It's as simple and as difficult as that.
~ Michael Leunig

You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, but she is beautiful because you love her.
~ Anonymous


He loves but little who can say and count in words, how much he loves.
~ Dante Alighieri


Everyone admits that love is wonderful and necessary, yet no one agrees on just what it is.
~ Diane Ackerman


If you cannot inspire a woman with love of you, fill her above the brim with love of herself; all that runs over will be yours.
~ Charles Caleb Colton


Love is a given, hatred is acquired.
~ Doug Horton


Will it Ruin Your Reputation Loving Me?
~Dirty White Boy.......

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
Here are some interesting quotes on the subject of love:


Falling in love consists merely in uncorking the imagination and bottling the common-sense.
~ Helen Rowland


Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction.
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupery


Love one another and you will be happy. It's as simple and as difficult as that.
~ Michael Leunig

You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, but she is beautiful because you love her.
~ Anonymous


He loves but little who can say and count in words, how much he loves.
~ Dante Alighieri


Everyone admits that love is wonderful and necessary, yet no one agrees on just what it is.
~ Diane Ackerman


If you cannot inspire a woman with love of you, fill her above the brim with love of herself; all that runs over will be yours.
~ Charles Caleb Colton


Love is a given, hatred is acquired.
~ Doug Horton


Will it Ruin Your Reputation Loving Me?
~Dirty White Boy.......

dwb may i use the last one in my sig line???

 

[dcraz]

dwb may i use the last one in my sig line???

It seems to me that love is something that is offerred or given but not necessarily received. Does that make sense?

We give love by making those special to us feel special, feel loved, fell wanted, feel desired. We can present those feeling to others, but the receiving party must be willing to accept these things and embrace them.

This is why you cannot make someone love you. Or get them to love you. If they are not willing and receptive. This can change over time, but they must welcome the love offerred to them before they can embrace it and grow with it. This is why so many couples have one person that deeply loves the other. But for reasons known only to them, the other person does not FEEL loved. They have not received it and embraced it. This might be for any number of reasons.

Just my 2 cents on Saturday evening...

 

[midwestyankee]

Hi Cathleen

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you. Maybe I'll figure it out by the end of this post!

I don't think I can personally fit myself into your theory of giving someone "all" my love. I see love as an every changing, growing thing. I don't think it can be measured, so how can I ever give anyone all of it? It is constantly changing and growing all time. I guess what I am saying is that I don't see love in concrete, measurable terms.

I don't think I understand your use of the term "devotional" love. I think devotion is a component to any type of love. I am absolutely devoted to my children, to their happiness, to their safety and securty, to their everything. On a different level I am devoted to my friends. I am devoted in a totally different way to someone I love intimately (for lack of a better word). In another way I am devoted to making a good life because I love myself. Yet these are all forms of devotion because of the love I feel.

Although I think that loving someone well means striving to give them everything you can, I can't help but wonder if we as a society are convinced that that love has to be exclusive because we've been brought up to think that way. Or if it has something to do with the fact that we all are seeking to be special in some way so we seek love that is singular to reinforce our "specialness"

Although love itself defies logic or reason, I am trying to apply some logical principles as I consider this.

I have two children. Each are individuals with their own unique talents and gifts. I love both of my children equally, yet differently. I am absolutely devoted to them. I am passionate about them. I give them everything I have to give every day. I embrace each of their talents, and I mourn each of their struggles. If I had to actually define the love I feel for each of them it would be different, yet I love them each equally with equal amounts of devotion and passion.

I have a few close friends. I love them all. Each fits into my life in a different way, each brings to my life a different gift. Yet I cannot say that I love any one of them more or less than the others.

So if you apply the same logic, why couldn't I love more than one man? And why couldn't I do it well? Theoretically, each could bring different gifts to my life, each could inspire passion in me in different ways, and each could hold a place in my heart. Why could I not love them equally, yet differently?

All of this being said, I will point out that I am not equipped to be doing such deep thinking so early on a Saturday morning....so take it for what it is worth

GG, this may be one of the single most well-constructed posts in this entire thread. Of course, it helps that you answered Cathleen in exactly the way I would have (though you used far fewer words and used them more clearly than I would have).

I also think that MT made a good point in suggesting that our capacity for love seems to grown based on the demand for it.

Cathleen, like you I tend to get caught up in analyzing life too much. I even count sheep too carefully. What matters is not so much that we might love two people differently but that we ought to love them differently because they are two different people. Nol matter what their roles in our lives, they are different roles.

This morning as I listened to NPR, I heard a snippet of the old song, "Torn Between Two Lovers" which includes the line, "Loving both of you is breaking all the rules." I thought of this thread and our current discussion and said to myself, nope. It doesn't break all the rules; just a few from conventional society that might not really matter in the long run.

 

[DLL]

watching the olympics this evening a commercial comes on
it says HOW DO YOU DEFINE LOVE


it was an ad for a jaguar..so there you are!!! we are all driving the wrong car

 

[midwestyankee]

watching the olympics this evening a commercial comes on
it says HOW DO YOU DEFINE LOVE


it was an ad for a jaguar..so there you are!!! we are all driving the wrong car

How do you know?

 

[Cathleen]

watching the olympics this evening a commercial comes on
it says HOW DO YOU DEFINE LOVE


it was an ad for a jaguar..so there you are!!! we are all driving the wrong car

Damn I knew it would turn out to be an easy anwer. Jeez we fussed all this time over nothing!


Yank - I agree with what you said. I also think MT stated far more clearly what I was getting at with the idea of measurement. I still think it would be the end of me to try to love two at the same time - I just don't think I'd survive. Really!

 

[midwestyankee]

Damn I knew it would turn out to be an easy anwer. Jeez we fussed all this time over nothing!


Yank - I agree with what you said. I also think MT stated far more clearly what I was getting at with the idea of measurement. I still think it would be the end of me to try to love two at the same time - I just don't think I'd survive. Really!

Actually, Jaguar does not define love, for we all know that love is a Saab story.

Cathleen, don't discount your ability to love. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea that our capacity is determined as much by demand (and our willingness to meet the demand) as it is by any talent or characteristic we have.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
Actually, Jaguar does not define love, for we all know that love is a Saab story.

Cathleen, don't discount your ability to love. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea that our capacity is determined as much by demand (and our willingness to meet the demand) as it is by any talent or characteristic we have.

LOL Yank you beat me to that....
I was going to type that... (the saab thing)

 

[Cathleen]

Actually, Jaguar does not define love, for we all know that love is a Saab story.

Cathleen, don't discount your ability to love. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea that our capacity is determined as much by demand (and our willingness to meet the demand) as it is by any talent or characteristic we have.

Oh Yank, Yank, Yank, since it appears GG is not here I will say in her place, that was just the worst pun you've made in days!

Good God man!!


As far as my capacity to love, I'll try one for starters thanks.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
How do you know?

well i didnt picture you as a jag man....i pictured something more classical like an aston martin

 

[MT_Pitcher]

Actually, Jaguar does not define love, for we all know that love is a Saab story.

Ok ... Love = Saab
What does a Hummer equal??

 

[midwestyankee]

well i didnt picture you as a jag man....i pictured something more classical like an aston martin

Actually, I drive a hard bargain.

 

[midwestyankee]

Ok ... Love = Saab
What does a Hummer equal??

Doing it for less than a song.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by MT_Pitcher
Ok ... Love = Saab
What does a Hummer equal??

Yayyyyyyyyyyy i drive a saab!!!!!!!!!!

 

[midwestyankee]

Oh Yank, Yank, Yank, since it appears GG is not here I will say in her place, that was just the worst pun you've made in days!

Good God man!!


As far as my capacity to love, I'll try one for starters thanks.

You can thank my now-receding head cold for the respite you've all had from my puns lately.

As for your compliment, in my very best Elvis voice: thank you, thank you very much.

 

[MT_Pitcher]

Yayyyyyyyyyyy i drive a saab!!!!!!!!!!

I drive a donkey

 

[midwestyankee]

I drive a donkey

As I recall, Ralph Kramden used to "brive a dus."

 

[dcraz]

I wish I was driving that Sweedish car known as the Vulva...

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
As I recall, Ralph Kramden used to "brive a dus."

whos he?? a friend of yours??? tell him to get a jag..

 

[MT_Pitcher]

whos he?? a friend of yours??? tell him to get a jag..

Tonight we should change the name of the thread to "Defiling Love"

 

[dcraz]

whos he?? a friend of yours??? tell him to get a jag..

Kids these days!!!!


I tell you. What are we going to do with them????

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by MT_Pitcher
Ok ... Love = Saab
What does a Hummer equal??

a good time???

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by dcraz
I wish I was driving that Sweedish car known as the Vulva...

i love that dodge RAM