Defining Love

[redrider4u]

That all seems to easy to me. I am not sure I believe in fate or the idea of if it is meant to be it will happen. There are so many variables involved, not the least of which is will, to detour such a meeting. Would that these two people meet online, I think there is still so much not available, that "true" love is not as easy as it seems. Online meeting can be easy, as so many of lifes struggles do not have to become involved, but those struggles are real in each of their lives. I don't think I am being clear here. Something like it being so far removed from real life, the sharing of day to day events, no matter how small, factor greatly into forming a love relationship. Being able to see how each person interacts with our worlds is a big factor to me ~ knowing that our methods or behaviors are compatiable.

I'm going to stop, I'm confusing myself!!

Ah Lady Cate.........the OL world gives us time to learn about us.......and the RL world brings reality. The OL lets us explore each other regardless of appearance and class. The RL lets us explore our true day to day reality.

Some where in the middle is us............laffing, kissing.......loving..learning.................

 

[midwestyankee]

That all seems to easy to me. I am not sure I believe in fate or the idea of if it is meant to be it will happen. There are so many variables involved, not the least of which is will, to detour such a meeting. Would that these two people meet online, I think there is still so much not available, that "true" love is not as easy as it seems. Online meeting can be easy, as so many of lifes struggles do not have to become involved, but those struggles are real in each of their lives. I don't think I am being clear here. Something like it being so far removed from real life, the sharing of day to day events, no matter how small, factor greatly into forming a love relationship. Being able to see how each person interacts with our worlds is a big factor to me ~ knowing that our methods or behaviors are compatiable.

I'm going to stop, I'm confusing myself!!

You're not confusing me, Cate. I do believe that for real love to develop, two people must become a regular part of each other's real, every day lives. I think that love of a sort is entirely possible between two who have never met to look in each other's eyes or held each other's hands. Still, once they have met that love might further blossom in ways neither had imagined or expected. My point was simply that online meeting makes love possible between two people who might never have given each other a chance even if they lived in the same city.

Reality must be a part of love. If it isn't then the love is more fantasy than anything else. And fantasy never sits at a sickbed; it does not listen to hours of heartache over a disappointed child, nor does it burst with joy at a smile.

 

[midwestyankee]

Ah Lady Cate.........the OL world gives us time to learn about us.......and the RL world brings reality. The OL lets us explore each other regardless of appearance and class. The RL lets us explore our true day to day reality.

Some where in the middle is us............laffing, kissing.......loving..learning.................

Bingo!

 

[Cathleen]

You're not confusing me, Cate. I do believe that for real love to develop, two people must become a regular part of each other's real, every day lives. I think that love of a sort is entirely possible between two who have never met to look in each other's eyes or held each other's hands. Still, once they have met that love might further blossom in ways neither had imagined or expected. My point was simply that online meeting makes love possible between two people who might never have given each other a chance even if they lived in the same city.

Reality must be a part of love. If it isn't then the love is more fantasy than anything else. And fantasy never sits at a sickbed; it does not listen to hours of heartache over a disappointed child, nor does it burst with joy at a smile.

so true!!

 

[Cathleen]

Ah Lady Cate.........the OL world gives us time to learn about us.......and the RL world brings reality. The OL lets us explore each other regardless of appearance and class. The RL lets us explore our true day to day reality.

Some where in the middle is us............laffing, kissing.......loving..learning.................

gee why didn't I figure that out!!!

Thanks

 

[midwestyankee]

gee why didn't I figure that out!!!

Thanks

Never underestimate the wisdom of a groundhog.

Especially one that wants to impress a beautiful woman.

 

[Cathleen]

Never underestimate the wisdom of a groundhog.

Expecially one that wants to impress a beautiful woman.

a critter that thinks

 

[redrider4u]

a critter that thinks

Smiling at you........ah, but my lady is not here..........

 

[midwestyankee]

Smiling at you........ah, but my lady is not here..........

Remember, red: if you seek happiness from another, you will never find it. Find happiness in yourself and offer it to another. Then you will play on the rainbows of life, dance among the flowers of love, and swim in the tears of nature's joy.

And if you buy that little bit of hokum, I have some cool stuff for my peace pipe. Wanna come into the wigwam and try some?

 

[Cathleen]

Has anyone read A Course In Miracles ? Its very interesting... I read it many years ago....and yes its time to re-read that one too!!

One of the areas they cover is Levels of Teaching. It talks about relationships as assignments. That they are part of a plan to further our enlightenment and expand love. The plan (God's plan) is that He brings people together who have the greatest opportunity for mutual growth. As though we are assigned to one another, no meeting is accidental, because of the potential for growth.

There are three levels of teaching in realtionships. The first is the casual encounter. A meeting of happenstance. Then there is the second level, where these people enter a more intense, sustained teaching-learning situation but then appear to separate. The third is one that once formed, lasts all our lives.

Each level offers teaching and growth. Each has a purpose. Each can provide enlightenment. Enlightment not meaning a change but as a recognition.

It is a very cool piece of work!

 

[redrider4u]

Remember, red: if you seek happiness from another, you will never find it. Find happiness in yourself and offer it to another. Then you will play on the rainbows of life, dance among the flowers of love, and swim in the tears of nature's joy.

And if you buy that little bit of hokum, I have some cool stuff for my peace pipe. Wanna come into the wigwam and try some?

but, yankee, if we clothe ourselves in the languge of lust........and reach for the joy of love..........and assume lusty love, then that which is whitheld from mere mortals shall descend upon us and give us joy till we orgasm no more.............

 

[Cathleen]

Remember, red: if you seek happiness from another, you will never find it. Find happiness in yourself and offer it to another. Then you will play on the rainbows of life, dance among the flowers of love, and swim in the tears of nature's joy.

And if you buy that little bit of hokum, I have some cool stuff for my peace pipe. Wanna come into the wigwam and try some?

funny!!

But what you say is very true.... I remember reading Leo Buscaglia, (I just loved him!!) but he would always teach that you can not give what you do not have. That you do teach what you do have.

That we must become the most beautiful, sensitive, magical, unique (etc.) person we can become. The only way to have them is to give them away. His premis was that if you don't have wisdom then you can only teach ignorance. If you don't have joy then you can only teach dispair. Our mission is to become the best we can be so that we can give it away. All done in love and growth.

 

[midwestyankee]

but, yankee, if we clothe ourselves in the languge of lust........and reach for the joy of love..........and assume lusty love, then that which is whitheld from mere mortals shall descend upon us and give us joy till we orgasm no more.............

I can only hope that there is some state beyond orgasm that we would reach in this way. Because in my limited experience, reaching a place where we orgasm no more is not high on my travel agenda.

 

[midwestyankee]

funny!!

But what you say is very true.... I remember reading Leo Buscaglia, (I just loved him!!) but he would always teach that you can not give what you do not have. That you do teach what you do have.

That we must become the most beautiful, sensitive, magical, unique (etc.) person we can become. The only way to have them is to give them away. His premis was that if you don't have wisdom then you can only teach ignorance. If you don't have joy then you can only teach dispair. Our mission is to become the best we can be so that we can give it away. All done in love and growth.

Cate, I'm sure there is some profundity in here, but the Chardonnay has put a slight fog on my glasses and it isn't shining through very well at the moment. Maybe I will reread this one in the morning.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
I have thought for a very long time that it would be possible for nearly any two people in the world to find that they were "right for each other" so long as they relax enough of their predilections, biases, fears, and anxieties. It may well be that when two people meet online the likelihood of being "right for each other" increases. This would be because the online experience removes so many of the signals we often give and receive about who we are and who we are meeting.

For example, if I had a bad experience with a redhead in the seventh grade and always stayed away from redheads after that, I might still fall madly for one I met online so long as I did not know her hair color initially. This is a trivial example but far more significant differences could easily be overcome with an all-electronic meeting.

Just my humble thoughts in response to your words of wisdom, DLL.

hey did i mention that i am a redhead????

 

[Ammo44]

hey did i mention that i am a redhead????

That'll scare the shit out of him.........

 

[wicked woman]

Originally posted by DLL
hey did i mention that i am a redhead????

me too

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
That'll scare the shit out of him.........

hey ammo or should I say Hola signor Ammo..LOL

 

[Cathleen]

Cate, I'm sure there is some profundity in here, but the Chardonnay has put a slight fog on my glasses and it isn't shining through very well at the moment. Maybe I will reread this one in the morning.

Heck I don't even drink and I've put myself in a fog!! At least you have an excuse....whats mine!!

 

[midwestyankee]

hey did i mention that i am a redhead????

Well now, this shoe leather tastes just great! A little barbecue sauce, or maybe some hollandaise, and it might go down a little easier.

Now, DLL, if you hadn't told me this we might have had such a bright future. I guess I'll just have to watch in shame as the groundhog lays claim to your heart.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Cathleen
Heck I don't even drink and I've put myself in a fog!! At least you have an excuse....whats mine!!

are you blonde by any chance....



hiding behind yankee.....

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Cathleen
Heck I don't even drink and I've put myself in a fog!! At least you have an excuse....whats mine!!

are you blonde by any chance....



hiding behind yankee.....

 

[midwestyankee]

me too

In the immortal words of the Sundance Kid, "Oh shit!"

 

[Ammo44]

hey ammo or should I say Hola signor Ammo..LOL

El Tigre will do.......

 

[midwestyankee]

are you blonde by any chance....



hiding behind yankee.....

There's no hiding behind this former blond.

But you can stand close if you like, just the same.