Defining Love

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
I'm sure you're right.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

Sometimes the path to love yourself is from allowing another to tell you what they love about you. To see yourself from their point of view. To let that information settle into your soul and begin the process of loving yourself. Others see what we can not many times.

You know I avoid bringing my cynical, smartass self to your thread Yank, but I'm having a moment of genuine thought.....shocking, I know!


Cathleen-I wonder if you can ever truly allow yourself to believe the things another may say they love about you if you do not love yourself to begin with....

 

[GiveawayGirl]

i can take your hand and we can catch a Yankee game would that do Yank???

Ok, the smartass returns......could this be a clue to yankee's 'certain someone'......inquiring (nosy) minds want to know!

 

[Cathleen]

You know I avoid bringing my cynical, smartass self to your thread Yank, but I'm having a moment of genuine thought.....shocking, I know!


Cathleen-I wonder if you can ever truly allow yourself to believe the things another may say they love about you if you do not love yourself to begin with....

I do belive that GG. We are most hard on ourselves, so when someone (who is trustworthy and knows me) and point out a quality I am not seeing or am diminishing, then yes, its a gateway to love myself, if only that quality.

I have had people tell me what they love about me and I was honestly looking at that same trait as perhaps not all that great, but giving it honest reflection and noticing it in my life, I have come to love it in myself. (See Yank crinch with that run on sentence!)

Short answer YES!

 

[wicked woman]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
You know I avoid bringing my cynical, smartass self to your thread Yank, but I'm having a moment of genuine thought.....shocking, I know!


Cathleen-I wonder if you can ever truly allow yourself to believe the things another may say they love about you if you do not love yourself to begin with....

I think it makes it harder to believe what other say if you don't believe it yourself...but I also know that sometimes if they're patient and loving and keep repeating it...that sometimes a little bit of it sinks in and it's posible to start believing.They should be complete opposites but I don't think they are.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I do belive that GG. We are most hard on ourselves, so when someone (who is trustworthy and knows me) and point out a quality I am not seeing or am diminishing, then yes, its a gateway to love myself, if only that quality.

I have had people tell me what they love about me and I was honestly looking at that same trait as perhaps not all that great, but giving it honest reflection and noticing it in my life, I have come to love it in myself. (See Yank crinch with that run on sentence!)

Short answer YES!

He'll get over it

I guess the way it works for cynical me is that when I am not loving myself, I find it difficult to believe anyone else can.

 

[Cathleen]

He'll get over it

I guess the way it works for cynical me is that when I am not loving myself, I find it difficult to believe anyone else can.

I can relate to that, I don't belive everyone thats for sure. I can be honest with myself and there are qualities about me that I do love, as well as those I need to work on or accept. But there are those I trust to show me, with candor and honesty, both of these sides. I don't find that cynical just practical!

Yea, he'll get over it, then I'll do it again or something worse to get him!

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I think it makes it harder to believe what other say if you don't believe it yourself...but I also know that sometimes if they're patient and loving and keep repeating it...that sometimes a little bit of it sinks in and it's posible to start believing.They should be complete opposites but I don't think they are.

This is why I avoid this thread.......too much thinking going on!

I think that part of the equation take you back to the issue of trust.....if you cannot allow yourself to trust that person then no matter how many times they tell you something, it's never going to ring true.....you'll always think that they just don't see you clearly.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

Yea, he'll get over it, then I'll do it again or something worse to get him!

I like this about you

 

[wicked woman]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
This is why I avoid this thread.......too much thinking going on!

I think that part of the equation take you back to the issue of trust.....if you cannot allow yourself to trust that person then no matter how many times they tell you something, it's never going to ring true.....you'll always think that they just don't see you clearly.

oh yes definitely....too many people aren't truthful, or flatterers, or insincere....but for those people special to you..well you know what I mean. Sometimes we can start to see ourselves through there eyes...

 

[GiveawayGirl]

oh yes definitely....too many people aren't truthful, or flatterers, or insincere....but for those people special to you..well you know what I mean. Sometimes we can start to see ourselves through there eyes...

I suppose this could be true, but it would be something you would have to allow yourself to do.....at least in my case

 

[Cathleen]

I suppose this could be true, but it would be something you would have to allow yourself to do.....at least in my case

Well how about some practice then! I don't know you well at all to say the least, but I do love your wit, its quick, smart and imaginative.

So, do you love your humorous talents? I'm not putting you on the spot here, please don't think that, but I just wanted to let you know your humor is great as well as test the waters so to speak!

 

[GiveawayGirl]

Well how about some practice then! I don't know you well at all to say the least, but I do love your wit, its quick, smart and imaginative.

So, do you love your humorous talents? I'm not putting you on the spot here, please don't think that, but I just wanted to let you know your humor is great as well as test the waters so to speak!

I thank you for the compliment. And I accept it willingly. I enjoy my own sense of humor (self amusement and all) and am pleased when others "get it"....some do not appreciate it.

I think I run into trouble with ideas that hit closer to home on a more personal level. There are so many intricacies in loving someone well, I often wonder if I am capable of it because it is not a skill I am well versed in, and I wonder if I am capable of allowing someone to love me for the same reasons.

 

[Cathleen]

I thank you for the compliment. And I accept it willingly. I enjoy my own sense of humor (self amusement and all) and am pleased when others "get it"....some do not appreciate it.

I think I run into trouble with ideas that hit closer to home on a more personal level. There are so many intricacies in loving someone well, I often wonder if I am capable of it because it is not a skill I am well versed in, and I wonder if I am capable of allowing someone to love me for the same reasons.

You are welcome. There are so many that don't get mine either... so poo on them! They aren't as enlightened yet! LOL

I am so much the same way, to even go as far to say I am unlovable. I work at it, sometimes I get somewhere, sometimes I don't. But I work on. Sometimes I feel my ability to love myself and others is my reason for being here..... to learn that. Maybe someday I will know but until such time, I will further the education.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

You are welcome. There are so many that don't get mine either... so poo on them! They aren't as enlightened yet! LOL

I am so much the same way, to even go as far to say I am unlovable. I work at it, sometimes I get somewhere, sometimes I don't. But I work on. Sometimes I feel my ability to love myself and others is my reason for being here..... to learn that. Maybe someday I will know but until such time, I will further the education.

And don't forget to have fun at the same time!

Now, I am out of here before you-know-who comes back and catches me posting in his thread

 

[midwestyankee]

And don't forget to have fun at the same time!

Now, I am out of here before you-know-who comes back and catches me posting in his thread

Caught ya!

 

[midwestyankee]

I am sitting here, having just read the last dozen or so posts, thinking that this is such a great place. Not so much this thread, though I like it here, but Lit as a whole.

Folks, there's no way I can respond adequately to each of these posts, so let me beg your forgiveness if I answer you all in one.

It takes a certain amount of courage to listen to others when they speak truthfully of us. It takes a certain amount of humility to accept their wisdom.

It takes a great deal of love to speak truthfully to your beloved. That sounds like a solipsism but it isn't. We don't always act lovingly toward our beloveds, so to extend ourselves fully in that love is a most giving act.

As for myself, I am another who hasn't always been quite sure why another could see enough in me to love deeply. But I am not so much the fool that I would deny that love.

 

[wicked woman]

Originally posted by midwestyankee

As for myself, I am another who hasn't always been quite sure why another could see enough in me to love deeply. But I am not so much the fool that I would deny that love.

Great words Yank

 

[Cathleen]

I am sitting here, having just read the last dozen or so posts, thinking that this is such a great place. Not so much this thread, though I like it here, but Lit as a whole.

Folks, there's no way I can respond adequately to each of these posts, so let me beg your forgiveness if I answer you all in one.

It takes a certain amount of courage to listen to others when they speak truthfully of us. It takes a certain amount of humility to accept their wisdom.

It takes a great deal of love to speak truthfully to your beloved. That sounds like a solipsism but it isn't. We don't always act lovingly toward our beloveds, so to extend ourselves fully in that love is a most giving act.

As for myself, I am another who hasn't always been quite sure why another could see enough in me to love deeply. But I am not so much the fool that I would deny that love.

it sounds like a what??? LOL

Yank, part of humility is being able to accept those words but not hold them, to send them out again. My own exsistence isn't the way of the world I agree but to speak truthfully to our beloveds should not be difficult, if its truth. Words and behaviors must agree if its the truth. Behaviors can be a measurement of the words, without one or the other it appears hollow to me.

I only accept words into my heart from those that I trust and know have my best interest in mind when they show me how they see me. The rest is BS

Now, give everyone a dictionary for your next post ok? Thanks!

I agree with you, again, damn! No fun in that!

 

[midwestyankee]

i can take your hand and we can catch a Yankee game would that do Yank???

Do, DLL, do you remember the old Abbott and Costello routine, "Who's On First?"

Today, the question is, who's in first?

There is no wisdom to be gained by a trip to Yankee Stadium. Only the opportunity to lose $10 buying the world's worst hot dog.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

Caught ya!

Damn, I tried to sneak out the back door.

 

[Cathleen]

Damn, I tried to sneak out the back door.

I was trying to cover for you!

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I was trying to cover for you!

Thanks! I'm glad to have made a new friend today

 

[Cathleen]

Thanks! I'm glad to have made a new friend today

As am I! Thanks

 

[midwestyankee]

Damn, I tried to sneak out the back door.

It has a squeaky hinge.