Defining Love

[midwestyankee]

Once again, I'd rather be a smartass then a dumbass! How's everyone doing?

I'm with you, SS2. Much rather be a smartass than a dumbass.

I'm doing very well, as a matter of fact. After all, I'm the guy whose beloved decided to surprise me and announce her presence to the world (the Lit world, that is).

 

[midwestyankee]

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

A double post and I wasn't even trying.

 

[shell seeker2]

I'm with you, SS2. Much rather be a smartass than a dumbass.

I'm doing very well, as a matter of fact. After all, I'm the guy whose beloved decided to surprise me and announce her presence to the world (the Lit world, that is).

That's great, yankee! Please pass on a welcome from me! Glad to hear that things are going well!

 

[midwestyankee]

That's great, yankee! Please pass on a welcome from me! Glad to hear that things are going well!

Thank you. I'm sure she'll see your welcome - she's an experienced lurker. I'm also sure that she will show up here sometime and add some of her wisdom to our ongoing discussion.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Hooch
Thanks, Yank....

Reading your response, somethig just occured to me:



I wouldn't have looked elsewhere if it had not been for an "unsatisfactory" home situation, or a need I had to prove something to myself. So it WAS "self absorbed" in that regard. But then... it changed... into caring for someone else, about making THEM happy, about giving, about not focusing on "me"... So "self-absorbed" went away. That in and of itself is liberating. Making someone else happy became paramount. And the feeling that is not happening any more.... well, that hurts just as much online as it does in my bed.

Hooch..i have seen so many "on-line" relationships end suddenly and you are right the people involved are hurt as much as if they were a couple that saw one another every day...But it is so hard to truly build a solid relationship thru this kind of forum..it might be great to fuck around and cheat on a mate but a true relationship is very rare because people hide behind PM'S and IM'S.Granted this is not the case for every one but it seems to be the more common thread...I can speak from experience that a couple that said they were so in love on the boards he was pming me behind her back so it does go on..and its sad...and if i pursued it i could have cybered every day with him..but didnt because i would never want that done to me..i dont have a good answer to why i come to a place like lit i am happily married and wouldnt want to change my life style(unless trump is interested) but I am involved with someone I met on line also married...and we sneak around and change sch. to see one another and its digusting that we lie to our spouses but i found myself loving him .. but have become that other woman and it bothers me at times but I find that I dont want to stop it...so we alll have crosses to bear

 

[GiveawayGirl]

Hooch..i have seen so many "on-line" relationships end suddenly and you are right the people involved are hurt as much as if they were a couple that saw one another every day...But it is so hard to truly build a solid relationship thru this kind of forum..it might be great to fuck around and cheat on a mate but a true relationship is very rare because people hide behind PM'S and IM'S.Granted this is not the case for every one but it seems to be the more common thread...I can speak from experience that a couple that said they were so in love on the boards he was pming me behind her back so it does go on..and its sad...and if i pursued it i could have cybered every day with him..but didnt because i would never want that done to me..i dont have a good answer to why i come to a place like lit i am happily married and wouldnt want to change my life style(unless trump is interested) but I am involved with someone I met on line also married...and we sneak around and change sch. to see one another and its digusting that we lie to our spouses but i found myself loving him .. but have become that other woman and it bothers me at times but I find that I dont want to stop it...so we alll have crosses to bear

DLL, this is a courageously honest post. Thank you for sharing a little bit of yourself with us to give us perspective.

I think the most important thing to remember when it comes to love is that each of us are individuals, and in turn, each of us has our own needs to be filled in their own way. Just as each of us has our own brand of love to give and offer it in a unique way.

Thus the challenge of this thread. Many wise opinions have been offered in these pages, each its own definition of love. Yet no two are exactly alike. Love has no absolutes. It is multi-faceted which is what gives it such power and mystery.

btw: if the big D calls, will you share?

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
DLL, this is a courageously honest post. Thank you for sharing a little bit of yourself with us to give us perspective.

I think the most important thing to remember when it comes to love is that each of us are individuals, and in turn, each of us has our own needs to be filled in their own way. Just as each of us has our own brand of love to give and offer it in a unique way.

Thus the challenge of this thread. Many wise opinions have been offered in these pages, each its own definition of love. Yet no two are exactly alike. Love has no absolutes. It is multi-faceted which is what gives it such power and mystery.

btw: if the big D calls, will you share?

neverrrrrrrrrrr

 

[GiveawayGirl]

neverrrrrrrrrrr

Oh well, I figured I had nothing to lose by asking

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
Oh well, I figured I had nothing to lose by asking

smiling....well thats one i would never share

serious speaking for a moment something that i rarely do here at lit ..I guess I hide too behind silly jokes of baseball and nonsense to shield myself from what I thought I was becoming..I am everything I hate about "the other women" and I feel so damn guilty at times..the past 2 days we both lied to our spouses so we could be together..and i look at it as god i was so happy to be with him we derserve one another...we are so great together..but that feeling is terrible ..of the lies..the deceit..its everything I truly hate and I dont think I am that person...sorry to vent but i recently lost my ear on this....
sometimes i think people who just have fuck buddies have the right idea..LOL

 

[Ammo44]

smiling....well thats one i would never share

serious speaking for a moment something that i rarely do here at lit ..I guess I hide too behind silly jokes of baseball and nonsense to shield myself from what I thought I was becoming..I am everything I hate about "the other women" and I feel so damn guilty at times..the past 2 days we both lied to our spouses so we could be together..and i look at it as god i was so happy to be with him we derserve one another...we are so great together..but that feeling is terrible ..of the lies..the deceit..its everything I truly hate and I dont think I am that person...sorry to vent but i recently lost my ear on this....
sometimes i think people who just have fuck buddies have the right idea..LOL

((((((( DLL )))))))))))))

 

[GiveawayGirl]

smiling....well thats one i would never share

serious speaking for a moment something that i rarely do here at lit ..I guess I hide too behind silly jokes of baseball and nonsense to shield myself from what I thought I was becoming..I am everything I hate about "the other women" and I feel so damn guilty at times..the past 2 days we both lied to our spouses so we could be together..and i look at it as god i was so happy to be with him we derserve one another...we are so great together..but that feeling is terrible ..of the lies..the deceit..its everything I truly hate and I dont think I am that person...sorry to vent but i recently lost my ear on this....
sometimes i think people who just have fuck buddies have the right idea..LOL

Perhaps a fuck-buddy would make life simpler but I suspect that the guilt would be even worse. Cut yourself some slack. You obviously need something that this person gives you and that need is obviously strong enough to allow you to step out of your box. If it didn't cause you some type of discomfort or make you think twice, you would have something to worry about. It simply proves that you are the good person that you imagine yourself to be.

 

[midwestyankee]

Perhaps a fuck-buddy would make life simpler but I suspect that the guilt would be even worse. Cut yourself some slack. You obviously need something that this person gives you and that need is obviously strong enough to allow you to step out of your box. If it didn't cause you some type of discomfort or make you think twice, you would have something to worry about. It simply proves that you are the good person that you imagine yourself to be.

DLL, listen to this woman, for she is right.

Despite all your tomfoolery, your goodness has shown through many times here. I'm sure that if you look closely and deeply into your heart, you'll like what you see there.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
((((((( DLL )))))))))))))

kisses ammo where the heck have you been jeeezzzzzzzz i had no baseball buddy..and look i got all sappy here god i need to get to the bat cave on the double and drink my bitch potion again....


btw did you know who tell you that he saw you know what before me even!!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOOO...only me and you 44 we
can dicuss that on springer too.....well jerry yes...he did do that but hey he also cammed amsterdam i love you silly....xoxoxo

 

[Cathleen]

Perhaps a fuck-buddy would make life simpler but I suspect that the guilt would be even worse. Cut yourself some slack. You obviously need something that this person gives you and that need is obviously strong enough to allow you to step out of your box. If it didn't cause you some type of discomfort or make you think twice, you would have something to worry about. It simply proves that you are the good person that you imagine yourself to be.

I agree GG. DLL - there are no right and wrongs here. It is too complex for that I think. I'm not one to say "to hell with others, I want what I want" but when it comes to love .... that is a whole other ball of wax.

Learning about ourselves is hard - but worthwhile. Go easy on yourself.

 

[Ammo44]

kisses ammo where the heck have you been jeeezzzzzzzz i had no baseball buddy..and look i got all sappy here god i need to get to the bat cave on the double and drink my bitch potion again....


btw did you know who tell you that he saw you know what before me even!!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOOO...only me and you 44 we
can dicuss that on springer too.....well jerry yes...he did do that but hey he also cammed amsterdam i love you silly....xoxoxo

You know who is one paranoid poop..........but I laughed ...no worries... ......on the outside looking in.......

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
DLL, listen to this woman, for she is right.

Despite all your tomfoolery, your goodness has shown through many times here. I'm sure that if you look closely and deeply into your heart, you'll like what you see there.

thanks you guys wait i should say thanks youse guys i am from new york after all...so yank does this mean i can talk baseball again just to let you know the yanks are still in 1st....

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I agree GG. DLL - there are no right and wrongs here. It is too complex for that I think. I'm not one to say "to hell with others, I want what I want" but when it comes to love .... that is a whole other ball of wax.

Learning about ourselves is hard - but worthwhile. Go easy on yourself.

Hi Cathleen

 

[midwestyankee]

thanks you guys wait i should say thanks youse guys i am from new york after all...so yank does this mean i can talk baseball again just to let you know the yanks are still in 1st....

I have my limits, DLL, I have my limits when it comes to baseball.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

thanks you guys wait i should say thanks youse guys i am from new york after all...so yank does this mean i can talk baseball again just to let you know the yanks are still in 1st....

DLL

(and you know me, anything that annoys Yank works in my book.... Baseball included)

 

[midwestyankee]

DLL

(and you know me, anything that annoys Yank works in my book.... Baseball included)

Once again, we have proof that once a smartass, always a smartass.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
You know who is one paranoid poop..........but I laughed ...no worries... ......on the outside looking in.......

kev man i was getting my nails done and you know who called me and told me well you rec'd some interesting e mail (which I still havent seen) we need to correct that asap by the way... i nearly spit my tea out .....i cracked up....

i am still laughing....

next on jerry springer...DLL e mail adventures..... meet ammo44(aud. applauds) so 44 tell us what was more exciting camming amsterdam or having who know who inspect the goods....LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Cathleen]

Hi Cathleen

Hi GG, nice to see you always...

 

[Ammo44]

kev man i was getting my nails done and you know who called me and told me well you rec'd some interesting e mail (which I still havent seen) we need to correct that asap by the way... i nearly spit my tea out .....i cracked up....

i am still laughing....

next on jerry springer...DLL e mail adventures..... meet ammo44(aud. applauds) so 44 tell us what was more exciting camming amsterdam or having who know who inspect the goods....LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Big brother is ALWAYS watching............in fact I think I'll say Velcro Man.......

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
Big brother is ALWAYS watching............in fact I think I'll say Velcro Man.......

velcro man is he a new super hero??LOL maybe we will use pig latin to e mail....

em antw ot uckf ouy ongl imet...LOL
btw ammo greta pmed wants to know what time is the next show...

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
DLL

(and you know me, anything that annoys Yank works in my book.... Baseball included)

annoying yank is the reason I come to lit...who needs any thing else