Cussing & Discussing Robert Heinlein's Works

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Those NYC Places for Sex and Food

Is it true that raw cucumbers, polish sausage, and bananas are the hottest items on their menus?!?!

Don't know, Honey Cum. But then, since I'm part Polish, if we get together you will find a Polish sausage on the meus regardless!

 

[firemoon]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Another ingredient for a happy marriage: Budget the luxuries first".

"And still another - See to it that she has her own desk - then keep your hands off it."

"God split himself into a myriad parts, that he might have friends." This may not be true, but it sounds good - and is no sillier than any other theology."

To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods."

"Does history record any case in which the majority was right?"

Maybe so, but I certainly can't think of any...

"When the fox gnaws - smile."

"A "critic" is a man who creates nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of creative men. There is logic in this; he is unbiased - he hates all creative people equally."

"Money is truthful. If a man speaks of his honor, make him pay cash."

"Never frighten a little man. He'll kill you."

SlyFox

 

[SlyFox]

That last was actually posted by me, SlyFox. But I'm happy to give my good friend "Firemoon" the credit. She had logged on from my computer and I forgot to change the log in...

SlyFox

 

[SlyFox]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Only a sadistic scoundrel - or a fool - tells the bald truth on social occasions."

"This sad little lizard told me that be was a brontosaurus on his mother's side. I did not laugh; people who boast of ancestry often have little else to sustain them. Humoring them costs nothing and adds to happiness in a world in which happiness is always in short supply.
In handling a stinging insect, move very slowly."

"To be 'matter of fact' about the world is to blunder into fantasy - and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

"The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship."

"Copulation is spiritual in essence - or it is merely friendly exercise. On second thought, strike out 'merely.' Copulation is not 'merely' - even when it is just a happy pastime for two strangers. But copulation at its spriitual best is so much more than physical coupling that it is different in kind as well as in degree.
The saddest feature of homosexuality is not that is 'wrong' or 'sinful' or even that it can't lead to progeny - that it is more difficult to reach through it this spiritual union. Not impossible - but the cards are stacked against it.
But - most sorrowfully - many people never achieve spiritual sharing even with the help of male-female advantage; they are condemned to wander through life alone."

"Touch is the most fundamental sense. A baby exeriences it, all over, before he is born and long before he learns to use sight, hearing, or taste, and no human ever ceases to need it. Keep your children short on pocket money - but long on hugs.

SlyFox

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

[b"This sad little lizard told me that be was a brontosaurus on his mother's side. I did not laugh; people who boast of ancestry often have little else to sustain them. Humoring them costs nothing and adds to happiness in a world in which happiness is always in short supply.


SlyFox [/B]

I know this sad, little lizard personally. And many people just like him. It is sad that they do not have their own lives and accomplishments to sustain them. But humoring them is the least we can do.

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

[b"Copulation is spiritual in essence - or it is merely friendly exercise. On second thought, strike out 'merely.' Copulation is not 'merely' - even when it is just a happy pastime for two strangers. But copulation at its spriitual best is so much more than physical coupling that it is different in kind as well as in degree.
The saddest feature of homosexuality is not that is 'wrong' or 'sinful' or even that it can't lead to progeny - that it is more difficult to reach through it this spiritual union. Not impossible - but the cards are stacked against it.
But - most sorrowfully - many people never achieve spiritual sharing even with the help of male-female advantage; they are condemned to wander through life alone."



SlyFox [/B]

Here is Heinlein at his most nakedly honest, and deeply profound, best. His understanding of the nature, value, and trancendence of the sex act is astounding. But achieving that "sharing" is rare. So most of us "are condemned to wander through life alone."

I think I must think about this quote even more. And let the truth it contains determine choices for my life. This is deep and important stuff, boys and girls!

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.


"Touch is the most fundamental sense. A baby exeriences it, all over, before he is born and long before he learns to use sight, hearing, or taste, and no human ever ceases to need it. Keep your children short on pocket money - but long on hugs.

SlyFox

Somebody give me a hug!!! I need one today.

And touch me! All over!! Again and again and again!!!

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

I know this sad, little lizard personally. And many people just like him. It is sad that they do not have their own lives and accomplishments to sustain them. But humoring them is the least we can do.

Not me! If I meet him, I would be busy challenging him. It's just me, everywhere I go, I see need for improvements. I have strong faith in people's ability to be much much better than they think. The biggest limitation those folks have are their own self-defeating attitude. If this little animal want to be great then it must break with his past. He must sneer at his ancestors in order to create his mental independance before he can be better than his fathers. This is how Alexander the Great was able to outshne his very famous father, by mocking him in everything except in things that have actual value to him (his father's invention of a new kind of army).

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

Somebody give me a hug!!! I need one today.

And touch me! All over!! Again and again and again!!!

HUgs! Hand on back, hands on ass, hands on beautiful tits, hand on legs, hand on pussy. Is that enough hugs for you, Honey Cum?

 

[SlyFox]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"The greatest productive force is human selfishness."

"Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss."

I think some of the Oregon pot growers might agree with an updated version of this warning...

"The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
But it is lovely work if you can stomach it."

"A whore should be judged by the same criteria as other professionals offering services for pay - such as dentists, lawyers, hairdressers, physicians, plumbers, etc. Is she professionally competent? Does she give good measure? Is she honest with her clients?
It is possible that the precentage of honest and competent whores is higher than that of plumbers and much higher than that of lawyers. And enormously highter than that of professors."

"Minimize your therbligs until it becomes automatic; this doubles your effective lifetime - and thereby gives time to enjoy butterflies and kittens and rainbows."

Does anybody have any idea what RAH was referring to by the word "therbligs"??? I can't find it in any of my dictionaries... But it does sound like something to avoid if it interfers with the enjoyable things of life...

SlyFox

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

HUgs! Hand on back, hands on ass, hands on beautiful tits, hand on legs, hand on pussy. Is that enough hugs for you, Honey Cum?

MMMmmm!!! You certainly do know how to hug a girl!! But if you tried those sorts of hugs with some girls, you might end up singing soprano! LOL!!! But, of course, a Slut like me just LUVS that sort of attention!!!

 

[SlyFox]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Expertise in one field does not carry over into other fields. But experts often think so. The narrower their field of knowledge the more likely they are to think so."

"Never try to outstubborn a cat."

"Tilting at windmills hurts you more than the windmills."

"Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again."

"Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered a capital crime. For a first offense that is."

"'Go to hell!' or other insult direct is all the answer a snoopy question rates."

"The correct way to punctuate a sentence that starts: 'Of course it is none of my business but - ' is to place a period after the word 'but.' Don't use excessive force in supplying such moron with a period. Cutting his throat is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about."

"A man does not insist on physical beautiy in a woman who builds up his morale. After a while he realizes that she is beautiful - he just hadn't noticed it at first."

"A skunk is better company than a person who prides himself on being 'frank'."

"'All's fair in love and war.' - what a contemptible lie.

SlyFox

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

MMMmmm!!! You certainly do know how to hug a girl!! But if you tried those sorts of hugs with some girls, you might end up singing soprano! LOL!!! But, of course, a Slut like me just LUVS that sort of attention!!!

Then I shall have to hugs you some more and also, take you out to bars and clubs and ask you "Is she right huggable?" If you say "Hell, yes!" then I would know that she's a slut just like you. I will try to get her you hug you too. How's that?

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Expertise in one field does not carry over into other fields. But experts often think so. The narrower their field of knowledge the more likely they are to think so."

"Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again."

That is VERY true. A smart man (smartness and expertness are entirelly different things, as even idiot genius can run complax math really fast and better than normal people) know that the key to success in life is to find the right questions to ask, rather than answers because the right questions tends to lean him toward answers that will prove their weight in gold faster and better than any other effort. A smart man also know how to create a team for himself so that they can pools their lifetime's wealth of knowledge and ideas for him while he reserves the final decision to himself. That's how men make themselves rich and powerful. See "Double Star" and "The Man Who Sold the Moon."

I can only wish for a lot more temptation in my life because nothing beat stress better than pure joy in such little adventures each day!

 

[SlyFox]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Beware of the "Black Swan" fallacy. Deductive logic is tautological; there is no way to get a new truth out of it, and it manipulates false statements as readily as true ones. If you fail to remember this, it can trip you - with perfect logic. The designers of the earliest computers called this the "Gigo Law," i.e. "Garbage in, garbage out."

"Inductive logic is much more diffilcut - but can produce new truths."

"A "practical joke(r)" deserves applause for his wit according to its quality. Bastinado is about right. For exception(al) wit one might grant keelhauling. But staking him out on an anthill should be reserved for the very wittest."

"Natural laws have no pity"

"On the planet Tranquille around KM849 (G-O) lives a little animal known as a "knafn." It is herbiverous and has no natural enemies and is easily approached and may be petted - sort of a six-legged puppy with scales. Stroking it is very pleasant; it wiggles its pleasure and broadcasts euphoria in some band that humans can detect. It's worth a trip.

Someday some bright boy will figure out how to record this broadcast, then some smart boy will see commercial angles - and not long after that it will be regulated and taxed.

In the meantime I have faked that name and catalog number; it is several thousand light-years off in another direction. Selfish of me - "

"Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite."

"Take care of the cajones and the frijoles will take care of themselves. Try to have getaway money - don't be fanatic about it."

SlyFox

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.


"Yield to temptation; it may not pass your way again."

"A man does not insist on physical beautiy in a woman who builds up his morale. After a while he realizes that she is beautiful - he just hadn't noticed it at first."

SlyFox

The first is the motto of my life.

I sincerely hope the second to be true. I have CUM to see that most people are beuatiful, each in their own special way.

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

Then I shall have to hugs you some more and also, take you out to bars and clubs and ask you "Is she right huggable?" If you say "Hell, yes!" then I would know that she's a slut just like you. I will try to get her you hug you too. How's that?

I LUV "right huggable" and even "wrong" huggable girls. They are so soft. And I know how to heat them UP so well.

But, then do we take her home, or fuck her right there in front of everybody?!?!

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

I LUV "right huggable" and even "wrong" huggable girls. They are so soft. And I know how to heat them UP so well.

But, then do we take her home, or fuck her right there in front of everybody?!?!

(With wolfish grin) Why, in front of everybody! Silly girl, didn't you call me a perv?

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

(With wolfish grin) Why, in front of everybody! Silly girl, didn't you call me a perv?

I was hoping it would be in front of everybody. As a confirmed Exhibitionist, it gets me even hotter and wetter to have an audience.

And you are a perv! That's why I like you!

 

[SlyFox]

Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

Well guys I've been away for a few days but here's today's offering...

"If 'everybody knows' such-and-such, then it ain't so, by at least ten thousand to one.

"Political tags- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists, acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in alturism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort."

"All cats are not grey after midnight. Endless variety - "

"Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other 'sins' are invented nonsense. (Hurting yourself is not sinful - just stupid.)"

"Being generous is inborn; being altruistic is a learned pervisity. No resemblance - "

"It is impossible for a man to love his wife wholeheartedly without loving all women somewhat. I suppose that the converse must be true of women."

"You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting."

"Formal courtesy between husband and wife is even more impostant than it is between strangers."

"Anything free is worth what you pay for it."

"Don't store garlic near other victuals."

"Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get."

SlyFox

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

I was hoping it would be in front of everybody. As a confirmed Exhibitionist, it gets me even hotter and wetter to have an audience.

And you are a perv! That's why I like you!

OK, as a perv, I want to ask Ms. Honey Cum to name ONE perveration you like that I didn't know about. Let's see if we can top each other!

 

[sensualpilgrim]

Heinlein and Rand

Ok, got a question. I noticed that a lot of Heinlein fans are also Ayn Rand fans. What are the difference between them and who's your favorite writer and why?

 

[KHAN-E]

Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

Well guys I've been away for a few days but here's today's offering...


"All cats are not grey after midnight. Endless variety - "

SlyFox

WELL CUM back, Foxy.

Endless variety. And, Variety is the Spice of Life!!!

 

[KHAN-E]

Perversion on Parade

OK, as a perv, I want to ask Ms. Honey Cum to name ONE perveration you like that I didn't know about. Let's see if we can top each other!

I believe I have been very OPEN with all my "perversions". They are considered perverse by others. They are considered by me as a part of my personal sexuality.

I am an active exhibitionist, incestual lover, bi-sexual, role-player, cyber slut. I have been involved in gang-bnags, orgies, public sex, sex with a tranny, using strap-ons on men and women. I have even let my doggie lick my pussy.

I don't know if there is anything about my slutty personal life you don't already know.

How about, I like to use venom extractors on my nipples. The suction is intense. A great mix of pain and pleasure.

 

[SlyFox]

Re: Re: Heinlein's Aphorisms - 2nd Intermission

WELL CUM back, Foxy.

Endless variety. And, Variety is the Spice of Life!!!

Thanks, Babydoll... And now here are the last of the aphorisms from "Time Enough..."

From “Time Enough For Love” by Robert A. Heinlein © 1973 All rights reserved.

"Pessimist by policy, optimist by temperament - it is possible to be both. How? By never taking an unnecessary chance and by minimizing risks you can't avoid. This permits you to play out the game happily, untroubled by the certainty of the outcome."

"Do not confuse 'duty' with what other people expect of you; they are utterly different. Duty is a debt you owe to yourself to fulfill, obligations you have assumed voluntrily. Paying that debt can entail anything from years of patient work to instant willingness to die. Difficult it may be, but the reward is self-respect."
"But there is no reward at all for doing what other people expect of you, and to do so is not merely difficult, but impossible. It is easier to deal with a footpad that it is with the leech who wants 'just a few minutes of your time, please - this won't take long.' Time is your total capital, and the minutes of your life are painfully few. If you allow yourself to fall into the vice of agreeing to such requests, they quickly snowball to the point where these parasites will use up 100 percent of your time - and squawk for more."

"So learn to say NO - and to be rude about it when necessary. Otherwise you will not have time to carry out your duty, or to do your own work, and certainly no time for love and happiness. The termites will nibble away your life and leave none of it for you."

"(This rule does not mean that you must not do a favor for a friend, or even a stranger. But let the choice be yours. Don't do it because it is 'expected' of you.)

"I came, I saw, she conquered." (The original Latin seems to have been garbled.)"

"A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain."

"Animals can be driven crazy by placing too many in too small a pen. Homo sapiens is the only animal that voluntarily does this to himself."

"Don't try to have the last word. You might get it."

And that's MY last word... At least with the aphorisms...

SlyFox