CSX railroad promises 2 more unions paid sick leave

[butters]

still only 4 days, with the ability to convert 3 personal leave days into sick days and any unused sick days' pay to be added to pension/retirement(?) funds

still not enough but a start, and more leverage for other unions within other railroad companies

CSX is the only major freight railroad so far to agree to give its employees sick time in the wake of contentious negotiations last year that ended only after Congress stepped in to block a potential strike.

The Jacksonville, Florida-based railroad said Friday that it had reached agreements with two more of its unions, just days after announcing pacts with a pair of other unions.

CSX said about 500 members of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers union and the National Conference of Firemen and Oilers union, which represents the company’s utility workers, will soon get four paid sick days. The workers will also be able to convert three of their personal leave days into sick days to give them a total of seven days.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...pc=U531&cvid=1e170f4b9eb94298b72e61996f8d01c2

 

[Lazaran]

still only 4 days, with the ability to convert 3 personal leave days into sick days and any unused sick days' pay to be added to pension/retirement(?) funds

still not enough but a start, and more leverage for other unions within other railroad companies



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...pc=U531&cvid=1e170f4b9eb94298b72e61996f8d01c2

Productive negotiations require movement by both sides. This was definitely movement by the railroad.

Overall - Good news.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Productive negotiations require movement by both sides. This was definitely movement by the railroad.

Overall - Good news.

Fuck "both sides"! The dividing line is between what's right and what's wrong. What's fair and just or what's unfair and unjust. The difference here couldn't be more stark. Paid sick days will make a meaningful and significant improvement in workers lives and living standards for them and their families. Any profits lost by the robber barons will make absolutely no change whatever in their lifestyles. They'll still eat at 5 star restaurants, they'll still fly on private jets, they'll still cruise on luxury yachts. Nothing will change in their lives but minor a difference of the shape of pixels on their computer screens representing their obscene profits.

 

[Lazaran]

Looks up histrionic in the dictionary.

Finds picture of BD66.

BD66

 

[BluesDriver66]

Looks up histrionic in the dictionary.

Finds picture of BD66.

BD66

Personal insults is no substitute for an intelligent or coherent response. Are ready to respond like an adult or is all we can expect from you is juvenile attempts at humor.

 

[Lazaran]

BD66

I wonder if that ^ answers BD66’s question???

BD66

 

[BluesDriver66]

BD66

I wonder if that ^ answers BD66’s question???

BD66

Can't even defend your position when called out. What a fucking pussy! Just to let your ignorant ass know the rest of the civilized world has paid sick leave as a given. Americans bowing and scraping to railroad robber barons is the outlier. You would know that already if you didn't spend all your time boot licking the corporate class. Keep bending over for the 1% and maybe one day you'll get that reach around if you ask them nicely and remind them about that both sides thing.

Worldwide Paid Sick Leave Rankings​

Most nations within the European Union have the best sick pay benefits in the world. However, Japan, Canada and Australia make provisions for employees to receive 66%, 55%-80%, or 100% of their pay.


The United States, by the way, is the only developed country that doesn’t offer any guaranteed sick days.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-paid-sick-leave

 

[butters]

https://www.tcunion.org/tcu-union/b...ement-for-paid-sick-leave-with-union-pacific/


another:

BROTHERHOOD OF RAILWAY CARMEN REACHES AGREEMENT FOR PAID SICK LEAVE WITH UNION PACIFIC​

By giffordk@TCUnion.orgFebruary 20, 2023Carmen Division, Contracts & Union Resources, TCU Blog
This weekend the Brotherhood Railway Carmen Division/TCU (BRC) reached a voluntary agreement providing paid sick leave for all BRC members working at Union Pacific Railroad. This agreement provides up to four (4) days of paid sick leave to be paid at 100% of the employees rate of pay. In addition it also provides members with the opportunity to designate the use of their personal leave days for sick leave.

 

[Lazaran]

https://www.tcunion.org/tcu-union/b...ement-for-paid-sick-leave-with-union-pacific/


another:

We’re getting there - and we didn’t have to destroy the fragile economy in the process.

I’m sure that ^ is a disappointment for “some” people.

“some” people

 

[SubzeroGirl]

Is a pinky promise legally binding now?

 

[BluesDriver66]

We’re getting there - and we didn’t have to destroy the fragile economy in the process.

I’m sure that ^ is a disappointment for “some” people.

“some” people

Sick leave never has and never will destroy a "fragile" economy. That's right wing fear mongering bullshit. That's like saying the 5 day work week or health and safety standards could destroy a fragile economy. The notion that treating workers somewhat better than livestock is somehow dangerous is absurd. It's the go to right wing talking point for everything. "Seat belts in cars will make cars too expensive" or "minimum wages will shut down business".

Is there any corporate right wing framing of any issue you reject?

 

[Lazaran]

BD66 you ignorant slut.

Read for comprehension.

A railroad strike was IMMINENT due to “REPUBLICANS voting against a 7 day sick leave package in The Senate that was already passed by DEMOCRATS in The House.

BD66

 

[BluesDriver66]

BD66 you ignorant slut.

Read for comprehension.

A railroad strike was IMMINENT due to “REPUBLICANS voting against a 7 day sick leave package in The Senate that was already passed by DEMOCRATS in The House.

BD66

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? That's the way strikes work.

By the way:

With a vote of 52 to 43, the amendment received majority support, with six Republican legislators joining Democrats to vote yes. But that tally fell short of the 60 votes necessary to overcome a filibuster during Thursday’s proceedings.

Why the fuck is the majority not making the decisions here? And don't give me that bullshit about Senate rules and tradition. Democrats are in charge and they can change those fucking rules anytime they want. They are already at a disadvantage because yahoo Republican states with more cows than people have just as many votes as New York and California. Democratic failure is baked into the cake on purpose. This is not a bug. It's a feature to give full court advantage to Republicans and their corporate masters.

Democrats aren't that stupid. They know this. These corporate boot licking surrender monkeys who pretend to be the adults in the room give away what precious little power they do have to Republicans. Then when shit like this happens they can do what you're doing now. Blaming Republicans for their failure. "Oh gee...we really wanted pro-worker bill to pass but those mean ol' Republicans won the day with the 10 votes we gave them for free."

Peddle that horse shit somewhere else.

 

[Lazaran]

BD66 doubling down on ignorant slut.

Yeah, strikes work in all sorts of ways. The consequences of a railroad strike at that / this moment in time would be catastrophic to a STILL fragile / recovering economy.

DEMOCRATS did everything in their power to AVERT a strike AND address the railroad workers sick leave demands.

REPUBLICANS did everything in their power to INDUCE a strike AND blocked efforts to address railroad workers sick leave demands.

The REPUBLICANS knew full well that President Biden and DEMOCRATS would have been mortally wounded politically by a railroad strike and the subsequent negative effects on the economy.

Of course that ^ wouldn’t have bothered BD66 in the least, because BD66 is basically an anarchist who wants to “BURN IT ALL DOWN”.

Sorry President Biden disappointed BD66 AND REPUBLICANS.

BD66 AND REPUBLICANS

 

[BluesDriver66]

BD66 doubling down on ignorant slut.

Yeah, strikes work in all sorts of ways. The consequences of a railroad strike at that / this moment in time would be catastrophic to a STILL fragile / recovering economy.

DEMOCRATS did everything in their power to AVERT a strike AND address the railroad workers sick leave demands.

REPUBLICANS did everything in their power to INDUCE a strike AND blocked efforts to address railroad workers sick leave demands.

The REPUBLICANS knew full well that President Biden and DEMOCRATS would have been mortally wounded politically by a railroad strike and the subsequent negative effects on the economy.

Of course that ^ wouldn’t have bothered BD66 in the least, because BD66 is basically an anarchist who wants to “BURN IT ALL DOWN”.

Sorry President Biden disappointed BD66 AND REPUBLICANS.

BD66 AND REPUBLICANS

Democrats did not do everything in their power. They gave away 10 votes for free. They can end that corporate boot licking surrender monkey filibuster any time they want to. They won't. Calling out that baked in the cake failure device known as the filibuster is not "BURNING IT ALL DOWN". It's calling for a return to the way the founding fathers originally designed the Senate to work. Not this modified rule designed to defeat popular legislation.

I find it very interesting in all that foaming at mouth rant with excessive capitalization not one word on the plight of workers. Just political posturing horse race bullshit. So much concern for the egos of millionaire power brokers and not one ounce of concern for the actual wage workers. Your myopic vision views this as a political fight between Democrats and Republicans when the reality is it's about fair wages and working conditions.

The filibuster is anti-democracy. How any person with a brain in their head can consider the side the less votes makes the decisions fair or democratic is absurd. But the party bosses on both sides know compliant sheep like you can be told this is just the way it works and you'll believe and accept as gospel. You keep promoting a system designed to fail and I'll keep calling out the corruption.

 

[Lazaran]

BD66 is RWCJ level stupid / delusional / destructive.

Mitch was a total POS for lowering the threshold for Supreme Court Justices and packing the Supreme Court.

Democrats should never lower themselves to the RWCJ’s level when it involves such a consequential change to government.

And no, Democrats change to the threshold for approving Federal judges was / is not even close to equivalent to what Mitch did with the Supreme Court.

Ultimately, the self destruction of the “republican” party should allow for a Democratic super majority so many progressive priorities can be achieved.

That ^ presupposes that far left anarchists like BD66 don’t / won’t alienate decent, intelligent, and reasonable centrists with radical and unrealistic demands or timelines leveraged with threats.

BD66 and The RWCJ

 

[BluesDriver66]

BD66 is RWCJ level stupid / delusional / destructive.

Mitch was a total POS for lowering the threshold for Supreme Court Justices and packing the Supreme Court.

Democrats should never lower themselves to the RWCJ’s level when it involves such a consequential change to government.

And no, Democrats change to the threshold for approving Federal judges was / is not even close to equivalent to what Mitch did with the Supreme Court.

Ultimately, the self destruction of the “republican” party should allow for a Democratic super majority so many progressive priorities can be achieved.

That ^ presupposes that far left anarchists like BD66 don’t / won’t alienate decent, intelligent, and reasonable centrists with radical and unrealistic demands or timelines leveraged with threats.

BD66 and The RWCJ

Oh sweet fucking Jesus you are so gullible. You're like Charlie Brown waiting in the pumpkin patch for the Great Pumpkin to arrive. If we just wait long enough and wish with all our might Democrats will have a super majority one day and then we'll get reasonable centrists like Joe Manchin to work with and all our dreams will come true!

Obama had a super majority and didn't do shit with it. We're still the only 1st world country without universal health care. These politicians are bought and paid for corporate prostitutes. Biden has vowed to veto Medicare for All if it comes across his desk.

You know what your problem is? No you don't so I'll tell you. You believe the lying multi-millionaire party bosses and their lying multi-millionaire counterparts in the corporate controlled news media. They tell you exactly what is possible and what is not possible. They tell you exactly what to believe and what not to believe, and like a good little soldier you take in everything they say and nod your head like a bobble head toy.

When is the last time you've ever heard an opinion from someone who is not a millionaire political or news media celebrity? Can you name one? When is the last time you've ever fostered an opinion that deviated from these same millionaire political/news media celebrities? That's all you know. Have you ever had an original thought in your life? Have you ever had a thought outside the box? Do you really believe doing the same thing over and over will bring different results? This same political strategy has been employed for decades and the last time I checked the Supreme Court is packed with right wing assholes and abortion rights have been lost. But I'm the one that's delusional?

Can't wait for next genius idea you'll repeat from your corporate overlords like, "Now is not the time for universal health care" or "Kamala Harris is our best choice for President".

 

[BluesDriver66]

That ^ presupposes that far left anarchists like BD66 don’t / won’t alienate decent, intelligent, and reasonable centrists with radical and unrealistic demands or timelines leveraged with threats.

BD66 and The RWCJ

Just to let you know since you are so profoundly ignorant. The things I advocate for is what the majority of Americans want. For example:

Universal Health care

Drug prices lowered

Abortion rights

Raising the minimum wage

Marijuana legalization

Higher taxes on the wealthy

Common sense gun control

The only place these issues are considered radical or unrealistic is cowardly and/or bought politicians and corporate news personalities. Poll after poll shows this is what Americans want yet the Democrats can't deliver and won't even advocate for them. And you never see these issues discussed in corporate news media.

Threats? Fuck yes threats! How do you think anything gets done in the real world? How Pollyanna are you? You're going ask Republicans nicely and expect positive results? Every last one of these fuckers voted for Trump and your plan is to kiss their ass because you're scared they might get mad?

Dude it's time you take that fucking pussy hat off your head, put your big boy pants on, and act like man for once in your life.