Crispy critters

Russia suffers more deaths annually from vodka than it endured in the entire 10 years of the Afghanistan war. About 30,000 to 40,000 annual deaths are caused by alcohol poisoning -- three times the total in 1990. (By comparison, only about 350 Americans die from alcohol poisoning annually.)

http://www.wayan.net/exp/rus_exp/vodka.htm
 
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RosevilleCAguy said:
Hmmm. Is this coming from a man who advocates violence and murder as a means to a political end?

You seem to have confused me with George W. Bush . . .
 
Re: Irrelevant

REDWAVE said:
Note how the reactionary defenders of capitalism not only have expressed absolutely no concern about the three workers killed in North Carolina-- murdered by the bosses, I say-- but their only response is to bring up irrelevant bullshit. Their callousness and heartlessness are exceeded only by their hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty.
:p

This entire quote is irrelevant and total bullshit and you know it.

You ignore other's debates and fall back on this kind of crap, RED, because you have no debate of your own. It's the same litany day in and day out: Capitalists are evil... they are killers... they are heartless... over throw the government... your ends justify your means.

Jesus. I've had enough. I'm going to shower and to work. You might try it... it's called getting a JOB. Kind of nice to have a purpose in your life besides spouting this crap every day. It just might broaden your mind a bit.


NAH.... that is not possible.
 
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A Desert Rose said:
Jesus. I've had enough. I'm going to shower and to work. You might try it... it's called getting a JOB. Kind of nice to have a purpose in your life besides spouting this crap every day. It just might broaden your mind a bit.


NAH.... that is not possible.

Him get a job? Think what it would do to labour relations in Las Vegas! The whole town would ignore him in days!:D
 
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bluespoke said:
Him get a job? Think what it would do to labour relations in Las Vegas! The whole town would ignore him in days!:D


You mean there is someone in Las Vegas paying attention to him now?

Hell, the only reason rEd visits lit is because he can post his crap and see it in print, thinking the whole world is interested. Kind of gives him the warm fuzzies...
 
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Rodney King said:
Hell, the only reason rEd visits lit is because he can post his crap and see it in print, thinking the whole world is interested. Kind of gives him the warm fuzzies...

Good grief man, the whole world IS interested..................... good jokes are so far apart these days.;)
 
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Problem Child said:
The only thing irrelevant here is the link you try and draw between capitalism and worker safety. It's irrelevant and highly ironic because the system you propose as a replacement has a much worse record on worker safety, historically speaking.

Unions have flourished in countries that have democratic governments, not in communist (read totalitarian) states.

The link between capitalism and worker safety is obvious and direct. In order to pursue their hallowed "bottom line," the bosses force speedups and cut corners on safety.

The capitalist system has a consistent record of viciously attacking unions and trying to destroy them. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, striking workers were routinely attacked by cops, troops, and private thugs and goons hired by the bosses. Unions were only finally given legal recognition in the 1930's as a result of militant mass struggles by workers. After WW2, the slave labor Taft-Hartley Act was passed, and the reds were driven out of the unions, as part of the post-WW2 reaction. That created a power vacuum which allowed gangsters to seize control of the unions, which were then targeted by the bosses for their corruption-- a corruption which the bosses themselves had brought about. In recent years, there has been a renewed assault upon unions, starting with Regan's busting of PATCO and continuing with the recent attacks upon the West Coast longshoremen and the NYC transit workers.

Finally, I have repeatedly made it clear I am a Trotskyist, and give no political support whatsoever to the deformed workers states in the Soviet Union (now defunct), China, etc. To still attempt to falsely conflate my genuine communism with Stalinism, a grotesque betrayal of communism induced by capitalist pressure on the isolated Soviet workers state of the 1920's, betrays intellectual dishonesty of the blackest and vilest sort.
:p
 
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REDWAVE said:

Finally, I have repeatedly made it clear I am a Trotskyist, and give no political support whatsoever to the deformed workers states in the Soviet Union (now defunct), China, etc. To still attempt to falsely conflate my genuine communism with Stalinism, a grotesque betrayal of communism induced by capitalist pressure on the isolated Soviet workers state of the 1920's, betrays intellectual dishonesty of the blackest and vilest sort.
:p


Finally, finally, to sumarise. The rest of the world is wrong, no matter their system, REDWAVE is right!


And you criticise George Bush! LOL
 
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bluespoke said:
Good grief man, the whole world IS interested..................... good jokes are so far apart these days.;)


You know, I hate to agree with you, but how can I argue with that logic. :D
 
In the name of "national security," the most horrendous crimes are committed

I forgot to mention the unionized employees of the new "Department of Homeland Security" (Big Brother Department) being stripped of civil service and whistle-blower protection, in the name of "national security" . . .
 
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bluespoke said:
Finally, finally, to sumarise. The rest of the world is wrong, no matter their system, REDWAVE is right!


And you criticise George Bush! LOL

bluespoke you know as well as I do that Thatcher demasculated the Trade Unions in the UK during and after the Miners' Strike. Remember those days when soup kitchens were set up by charitable organisations to help feed the families of the strikers? When the full force of Government might was used to crush the miners by using baton and cavalry charges by hundreds of policemen?

No matter the reason for the strike. The vicious way it was broken showed us Brits the way the wind was blowing. And when it was all over the British Trade Union Movement became useless as a force for its members protection.

The result? Workers were openly subjected to blackmail by corporate bosses, working overtime was in many cases made compulsory as was working at weekends. No extra money paid just time off in lieu.

Sackings with little compensation became the norm as the idiot woman's economic policies began to fail disastrously pushing many businesses to the wall.

The workers? No protection...

And the above was only a small part of the destruction of the employee/employer relationship.

I've read a few of the posts on this thread and it's the usual run of the mill drivel from the usual run of the mill drivellers who take more delight in knocking REDWAVE than replying to his arguments.

ppman
 
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REDWAVE said:
The link between capitalism and worker safety is obvious and direct. In order to pursue their hallowed "bottom line," the bosses force speedups and cut corners on safety.

The capitalist system has a consistent record of viciously attacking unions and trying to destroy them. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, striking workers were routinely attacked by cops, troops, and private thugs and goons hired by the bosses. Unions were only finally given legal recognition in the 1930's as a result of militant mass struggles by workers. After WW2, the slave labor Taft-Hartley Act was passed, and the reds were driven out of the unions, as part of the post-WW2 reaction. That created a power vacuum which allowed gangsters to seize control of the unions, which were then targeted by the bosses for their corruption-- a corruption which the bosses themselves had brought about. In recent years, there has been a renewed assault upon unions, starting with Regan's busting of PATCO and continuing with the recent attacks upon the West Coast longshoremen and the NYC transit workers.

Finally, I have repeatedly made it clear I am a Trotskyist, and give no political support whatsoever to the deformed workers states in the Soviet Union (now defunct), China, etc. To still attempt to falsely conflate my genuine communism with Stalinism, a grotesque betrayal of communism induced by capitalist pressure on the isolated Soviet workers state of the 1920's, betrays intellectual dishonesty of the blackest and vilest sort.
:p


When your "Trotskyist" form of government gets up and running, give me a jingle.

LMAO....
 
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Problem Child said:
When your "Trotskyist" form of government gets up and running, give me a jingle.


Don't you mean 'tinkle' as in phone call?

:p

ppman
 
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p_p_man said:
Don't you mean 'tinkle' as in phone call?

:p

ppman
i knew i was right in having you pegged as a golden shower lover.
 
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honeylick said:
i knew i was right in having you pegged as a golden shower lover.

Now how did I know someone would say something like that?

:D

ppman
 
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p_p_man said:
Now how did I know someone would say something like that?

:D

ppman
man i'm so glad i never dissapoint.
-wink-
 
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p_p_man said:
I've read a few of the posts on this thread and it's the usual run of the mill drivel from the usual run of the mill drivellers who take more delight in knocking REDWAVE than replying to his arguments.

ppman

I have little argument with anything you said in your post p_p but REDWAVE just leaves himself open for it. No matter what anyone says against his tirades he defends his way by blaming capitalism or saying that none of the communist states were his sort of communism. As I said he believes the rest of the world is wrong.

Nobody is right, just him and his way.

Now I believe that there is a lot wrong with 'civilised' society in many countries but the only thing I know for certain is that no one person or system has all the answers.
 
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REDWAVE said:
I always find you entertaining . . .


REDWAVE, I always find YOU entertaining.


But then again, nobody watches a car race just to see a bunch of cars making left turns all day long. A car crash is to driving, what your posts are to thinking.
 
Here is what I find really hypocritical about people like you, RED:
You decry the downtrodden, the homeless, the unemployed, the man who is under the heel of the evil capitalist, but tell me when was the last time you DID anything for them?

When was the last time you volunteered yourself at the Salvation Army? When was the last time you offered your services to your local drug court? How about packing supplies for the Red Cross?

All you, and those like you do is sit at your computer and complain, which does nothing for those who really could use some assistance in their daily lives.

And this is the reason your opinions have no credibility with me. You are truly the biggest hypocrite on any of your threads.
 
A Desert Rose said:
Here is what I find really hypocritical about people like you, RED:
You decry the downtrodden, the homeless, the unemployed, the man who is under the heel of the evil capitalist, but tell me when was the last time you DID anything for them?

When was the last time you volunteered yourself at the Salvation Army? When was the last time you offered your services to your local drug court? How about packing supplies for the Red Cross?

All you, and those like you do is sit at your computer and complain, which does nothing for those who really could use some assistance in their daily lives.

And this is the reason your opinions have no credibility with me. You are truly the biggest hypocrite on any of your threads.

I second that emotion.....

And sometimes.....

SHIT HAPPENS!!
 
ADR

Private charity will never be anywhere near adequate to meet the need which exists. Only government social programs can do that.
 
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REDWAVE said:
Private charity will never be anywhere near adequate to meet the need which exists. Only government social programs can do that.

And governmental social programs only WORK, when the people receiving them take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to better themselves and their situations.

Unfortunately, to many people use the governments social programs only to survive. I have nothing against the people who use the social programs to actually better themselves. Its the people who just want the government to support them that I have a problem with. And I am not talking about the handicapped or other persons who cannot take care of themselves. Its the ones that just want a free handout that ruin the social programs..

It always comes back to an individual taking personal responsibility for themselves, red!!! That is something you can't legislate, red! Even in communism!
 
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REDWAVE said:
Private charity will never be anywhere near adequate to meet the need which exists. Only government social programs can do that.

Like I said....Shit happens....
 
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