COVID-19 by the Numbers/Facts

[bigsly]

According to your fellow right wingers, the WHO is a Chinese run think-tank.

Since I'm unaware of of any other source with the global reach of the WHO, I'm going to keep posting its numbers covering the disease everywhere but the US, despite misgivings about how bias and corruption the WHO obviously has might affect its accuracy.

I state my views regardless of repugnant partisanship - yours or theirs.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I state my views regardless of repugnant partisanship - yours or theirs.

As it should be.

22,170 infected, the US jumps to #4 in the world for infections.
Deaths 282

 

[sygn]

To this https://www.trackcorona.live/

This was the best "daily graphs" site that I've seen so far.
I saved it on my homepage.


Apparently NZ is the first country to publish for the public, a
4 levels- alert system. (click on NZ cases in the Al Jazeera article)
NZ is currently at level 2, Australia between 2-3.
Does anyone have something more detailed?


https://covid19.govt.nz/assets/COVID_Alert-levels_v2.pdf
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/countries-confirmed-cases-coronavirus-200125070959786.html

 

[Wrong Element]

10,000 new cases in the last 72 hours in the US.

Buckle up

We'll be over 100,000 by April 1.

And that's just what's being counted — I suspect people who are being asked to not get a test now because they're not seriously ill enough ("just" a fever/cough and no breathing issues) are never going to be added to any official count. This will at least keep Trump's precious numbers down, which is what federal government policy has been geared towards this entire time.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

We'll be over 100,000 by April 1.

And that's just what's being counted — I suspect people who are being asked to not get a test now because they're not seriously ill enough ("just" a fever/cough and no breathing issues) are never going to be added to any official count. This will at least keep Trump's precious numbers down, which is what federal government policy has been geared towards this entire time.

The effect of that policy will also cause the second third and fourth waves to be just as high, or even higher than this first original 14 day wave is. Not to mention, making it very difficult to determine if and when the virus spread has been isolated and contained....

 

[sygn]

The effect of that policy will also cause the second third and fourth waves to be just as high, or even higher than this first original 14 day wave is. Not to mention, making it very difficult to determine if and when the virus spread has been isolated and contained....

It seemed to be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" decision between what you said, and avoiding depleting resources with unnecessary testing.

Apparently NYC Department of Health came up with the decision.

 

[Wrong Element]

The effect of that policy will also cause the second third and fourth waves to be just as high, or even higher than this first original 14 day wave is. Not to mention, making it very difficult to determine if and when the virus spread has been isolated and contained....

I hope that someone in authority is thinking ahead to the potential second wave and beyond, though given the utter uselessness of the federal government at the present time this seems unlikely. Assuming no magic bullet in the form of treatment arises in the near future, there's no way anything resembling normal life can be resumed without the sort of universal and continual testing that other countries are apparently managing, but not the U.S.

 

[HisArpy]

I hope that someone in authority is thinking ahead to the potential second wave and beyond, though given the utter uselessness of the federal government at the present time this seems unlikely. Assuming no magic bullet in the form of treatment arises in the near future, here's no way anything resembling normal life can be resumed without the sort of universal and continual testing that other countries are apparently managing, but not the U.S.

1. Someone in authority IS thinking ahead. He gives daily press briefings along with the experts who are on top of this.

2. We have a treatment that's being investigated with clinical trials as I type this. Early results from France suggest it works "like magic".

3. The people in the know say a specific Vax is about a year away. That means life as we know it can resume, albeit with some changes as a result of this.

4. STOP panicking and/or trying to panic others.

 

[jaF0]

World Health Organization

OK, now do gunshots.

 

[sygn]

It's more likely because New Yorkers are hypochondriacs.

"As of Friday morning, more than 32,000 people had been tested in the state, almost a third of them in the last day, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.
More than 7,000 New Yorkers have tested positive."

We have been clear that testing is best indicated for people who are symptomatic, have chronic underlying illnesses, and are not getting better."

https://abc7ny.com/health/nyc-healt...its-on-testing-patients-for-covid-19/6033992/

 

[Fuzzy1975]

. Assuming no magic bullet in the form of treatment arises in the near future

Unfortunately, I think this virus will be around until that time.

The US is not alone in this fucked up response.

China started it, by intentionally downplaying and lying about it. Too many other countries bought into that fact, the WHO completely missed the mark, and did not demand countries step up there responses.

I hope my fears of the degree of infection and required hospitalizations is far over blown, since I also feel the virus has moved beyond the ability of most countries public health units to contain the outbreak.


US has now 22,851 infected, 288 deaths

 

[Fuzzy1975]

2. We have a treatment that's being investigated with clinical trials as I type this. Early results from France suggest it works "like magic".

Here is the study of the group of 30 people.


https://www.mediterranee-infection....2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf


Hope it works, but it is such a small sample size, it could be redundant too.

4. STOP panicking and/or trying to panic others.

People panic when they are not told the truth. Intelligent people understand facts and figures. They can use those figures to make educated decisions about their decisions. I have no idea why posting the facts of the viral infection should panic anyone but the poorly educated...

Viral infected in the US 24,137, deaths 288, and I should add 177 recovered

 

[Sean]

1. Someone in authority IS thinking ahead. He gives daily press briefings along with the experts who are on top of this.

You talking about Trump, Tim? Because what happens in his daily press briefings is that he spouts a load of bullshit and lies then Fauci comes on and debunks everything the fucker just said. I expect Fauci will be fired soon.

 

[Sean]

Here is the study of the group of 30 people.


https://www.mediterranee-infection....2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf


Hope it works, but it is such a small sample size, it could be redundant too.



People panic when they are not told the truth. Intelligent people understand facts and figures. They can use those figures to make educated decisions about their decisions. I have no idea why posting the facts of the viral infection should panic anyone but the poorly educated...

Viral infected in the US 24,137, deaths 288, and I should add 177 recovered

Um, isn't azithromycin an antibacterial?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Um, isn't azithromycin an antibacterial?

I have no clue... I just linked the study people seem to be casting their hopes upon.

It is not even peer reviewed...chuckles

 

[zipman]

Um, isn't azithromycin an antibacterial?

Yes, it is an antibiotic.

 

[icanhelp1]

French study finds anti-malarial and antibiotic combo could reduce COVID-19 duration
Darrell Etherington@etherington / 11:12 am EDT • March 19, 2020
Comment
FRANCE-CHINA-HEALTH-VIRUS
Image Credits: GERARD JULIEN / Getty Images
A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients.

The researchers performed a study on 30 confirmed COVID-19 patients, treating each with either hydroxychloroquine on its own, a combination of the medicine with the antibiotic, as well as a control group that received neither. The study was conducted after reports from treatment of Chinese patients indicated that this particular combo had efficacy in shortening the duration of infection in patients.

The patient mix included in the study included six who showed no symptoms whatsoever, as well as 22 who had symptoms in their upper respiratory tract (things like sneezing, headaches and sore throats, and eight who showed lower respiratory tract symptoms (mostly coughing). 20 of the 30 participants in the study received treatment, and the results showed that while hydroxycholoroquine was effective on its own as a treatment, when combined with azithromycin it was even more effective, and by a significant margin.

https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/u...ychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA-24-1038x553-1.jpg

These results represent a limited study with a small number of patients, but they are promising, especially when combined with earlier reports from patients in China with the same treatment options. Researchers globally are testing a number of potential treatments, including a range of drugs used previously in the efforts to combat Ebola, SARS, HIV and other global outbreaks.

There are no confirmed effective treatments specifically for COVID-19 to date, but regulators and medical researchers everywhere are working hard to get through the process of testing and approvals in search of something that can at least reduce the duration or severity of symptoms in patents. Vaccine development is also underway, but any approved and effective COVID-19 vaccine is at least 12-18 months away, even with resources redirected towards developing one as fast as is safety possible.

 

[Wrong Element]

1. Someone in authority IS thinking ahead. He gives daily press briefings along with the experts who are on top of this.

The clown-in-chief is using the briefings as a daily ego stroke to replace his rallies, and his downplaying of the situation for weeks and weeks (conveniently memory-holed by Fox News and other assorted ninnies) has put us in the spot we're in now.

2. We have a treatment that's being investigated with clinical trials as I type this. Early results from France suggest it works "like magic".

We'll see. HIV was a death sentence until one day it wasn't. Of course, that also took the better part of two decades.

3. The people in the know say a specific Vax is about a year away. That means life as we know it can resume, albeit with some changes as a result of this.

This sort of disruption to the economy (to say nothing of the impact on our collective mental health) is not going to be sustainable for a full year (and a year is still a little on the optimistic side for development of a vaccine for a brand new virus).

4. STOP panicking and/or trying to panic others.

It's not "panicking" to be honest about the situation. It's bad and there's nothing to prevent it getting a lot worse for at least several more weeks.

I guess I could have been posting "we have 15 cases heading towards zero"/"it's all going to magically go away" three weeks ago and not been seen as panicking, but that also would have been dumb as hell.

 

[badbabysitter]

" Could " is not " does"

 

[Fuzzy1975]

French study finds anti-malarial and antibiotic combo could reduce COVID-19 duration
Darrell Etherington@etherington / 11:12 am EDT • March 19, 2020
Comment
FRANCE-CHINA-HEALTH-VIRUS
Image Credits: GERARD JULIEN / Getty Images
A new study whose results were published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents has found early evidence that the combination of hydroxychloroquine, a popular anti-malaria drug known under the trade name Plaqenuil, and antibiotic azithromycin (aka Zithromax or Azithrocin) could be especially effective in treating the COVID-19 coronavirus and reducing the duration of the virus in patients.

The researchers performed a study on 30 confirmed COVID-19 patients, treating each with either hydroxychloroquine on its own, a combination of the medicine with the antibiotic, as well as a control group that received neither. The study was conducted after reports from treatment of Chinese patients indicated that this particular combo had efficacy in shortening the duration of infection in patients.

The patient mix included in the study included six who showed no symptoms whatsoever, as well as 22 who had symptoms in their upper respiratory tract (things like sneezing, headaches and sore throats, and eight who showed lower respiratory tract symptoms (mostly coughing). 20 of the 30 participants in the study received treatment, and the results showed that while hydroxycholoroquine was effective on its own as a treatment, when combined with azithromycin it was even more effective, and by a significant margin.



These results represent a limited study with a small number of patients, but they are promising, especially when combined with earlier reports from patients in China with the same treatment options. Researchers globally are testing a number of potential treatments, including a range of drugs used previously in the efforts to combat Ebola, SARS, HIV and other global outbreaks.

There are no confirmed effective treatments specifically for COVID-19 to date, but regulators and medical researchers everywhere are working hard to get through the process of testing and approvals in search of something that can at least reduce the duration or severity of symptoms in patents. Vaccine development is also underway, but any approved and effective COVID-19 vaccine is at least 12-18 months away, even with resources redirected towards developing one as fast as is safety possible.

https://www.mediterranee-infection....2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

here is the ACTUAL PUBLISHED study...

Try reading it...

 

[icanhelp1]

https://www.mediterranee-infection....2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

here is the ACTUAL PUBLISHED study...

Try reading it...

I DID READ IT, I added a graph to my article for easy reading rather than reading through a comprehensive study.

 

[Sean]

Yes, it is an antibiotic.

I'm a long way from being a virologist, but as far as I'm aware, antibiotics have fuck all effect on viruses.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I DID READ IT, I added a graph to my article for easy reading rather than reading through a comprehensive study.

Then you understand it is not peer reviewed, based upon treatment the Chinese were trying when they were throwing anything at the wall to see what might stick?

It is based upon 36 people... Like I said earlier, I hope it works, but it will be months before it can be shown the true effectiveness of it.

 

[icanhelp1]

I'm a long way from being a virologist, but as far as I'm aware, antibiotics have fuck all effect on viruses.

Antibiotics basically have no effect on viruses, use of antibiotics frees your immune system by attacking bacteria and other foreign critters allowing your own antibodies to attack the virus ( oversimplified)

 

[bigsly]

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19
https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894