Comments, people, comments!

[Saint Peter]

I get a few less clicks than this one. I am quite certain it has to do with lighting or something like that.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1488845

 

[HarryHill]

Think you posted the wrong thread

 

[BlinkOneSomething]

So, do you want critics or not?

I do! I misused the word critical, I meant to say overly critical. Like someone who says "you used sights instead of sites and therefore you are garbage and I refuse to read any more of your stories, but will now go and give you 1 star on each and every one." That's bullshit. Everyone makes errors. That's why there are people that get paid well to edit. Hell, half the time its auto correct, like when I changed 'me to 'em 2 times in my previous post.

 

[CandiCame]

Rate the story. That critiques it's worth to the reader. If you absolutely must give feedback then do so. Even with comments off, you can still PM the author.

I don't get very many PM's for my stories. I believe it's because of two things. PM's are harder to write than a quick nasty comment and I think Lit tracks the accounts of those who send the PM's and the anonaholes aren't so anonymous that way. The few PM's I do get are usually very nicely worded about what, where, and how the sender would like to see the story improved for them or where I went too fast and skipped something critical that breaks the reader's engagement with the story.

Other than that, for feedback I use followers, favorites, and ratings to tell me if I did a good job or not. I don't have many followers (30-something) but I have 2 H's in 3 stories and a good number of favorites for each of them. That tells me a lot about my work.

And I don't have to put up with anonaholes.

The thing is, getting ratings doesn't tell me what I did wrong. They're not even a very strong indicator of whether or not your work is good. I have 1 story up right now, I wrote it in a couple hours, and it's rated over 4- which I know is skewed, probably because people were nice or wanted to help me in the contest.

I just don't think anyone is going to take the time to pm me, especially to be critical. I think that's more something a fan would do.

I need honest, critical feedback to improve. On my most recent story (the only one I have up, since I took the others down) my first comment was SUPER helpful. They basically told me that I had misjudged my audience and their expectations- so now I know how to tailor my stories to Lit's target audience in the future. That's the kind of shit I need to know.

Grammar and all that other shit isn't super important to me at the stage I'm currently at with my writing. I can download grammarly for free if I really want. I need feedback that only human people can provide about things like target audience, characterization, plot pacing, etc. I need help.

I think that the difference of opinion about the comments is coming from what the writer wants out of a site. It seems like some folks just want to reach a wide audience, and feels like they already have the tools they need to improve if they just know that they need to use them. If that's where you are (or anyone else) then yeah, you probably don't need comments.

That's not where I am. My writing is really weak. I've never been professionally trained in creative writing, and I've sure as hell never had a real piece of PUBLISHED work. I'm DESPERATE for feedback, and I don't want to pay for it. So comments are really all I have. So I really wish folk would leave more of them.

I don't care if they're nasty. My skin's not really thin enough that I register someone not liking my story as being "nasty". I mean, I've had people tell me that I should die over some of my old stories- because they weren't properly warned about the content. That was on me. That taught me that I need to put reader discretion warnings at the top (because tags are on the bottom and many readers don't use them). Even the "nasty" shit taught me something- was valuable feedback. If you don't see your work as part of your identity, but as something you created /specifically so you can improve/ then critical feedback doesn't hurt you. It took me a long time to understand why people were getting so personally insulted by negative feedback, because my brain just isn't wired like that, but I do totally get it now. It's just not something that I really think too long on. Nothing is going to be for everyone.

That might be because I usually write some pretty niche stuff so I EXPECT that it will have a niche audience.

But again, it's not the content, it's my writing that I need help with. But feedback on the content does help me figure out where to post it.

I just think that comments ARE really valuable. I'd never turn them off.

 

[CandiCame]

I do! I misused the word critical, I meant to say overly critical. Like someone who says "you used sights instead of sites and therefore you are garbage and I refuse to read any more of your stories, but will now go and give you 1 star on each and every one." That's bullshit. Everyone makes errors. That's why there are people that get paid well to edit. Hell, half the time its auto correct, like when I changed 'me to 'em 2 times in my previous post.

Autocorrect is a clusterduck.

 

[HisArpy]

The thing is, getting ratings doesn't tell me what I did wrong. They're not even a very strong indicator of whether or not your work is good. I have 1 story up right now, I wrote it in a couple hours, and it's rated over 4- which I know is skewed, probably because people were nice or wanted to help me in the contest.

I just don't think anyone is going to take the time to pm me, especially to be critical. I think that's more something a fan would do.

I need honest, critical feedback to improve. On my most recent story (the only one I have up, since I took the others down) my first comment was SUPER helpful. They basically told me that I had misjudged my audience and their expectations- so now I know how to tailor my stories to Lit's target audience in the future. That's the kind of shit I need to know.

Grammar and all that other shit isn't super important to me at the stage I'm currently at with my writing. I can download grammarly for free if I really want. I need feedback that only human people can provide about things like target audience, characterization, plot pacing, etc. I need help.

I think that the difference of opinion about the comments is coming from what the writer wants out of a site. It seems like some folks just want to reach a wide audience, and feels like they already have the tools they need to improve if they just know that they need to use them. If that's where you are (or anyone else) then yeah, you probably don't need comments.

That's not where I am. My writing is really weak. I've never been professionally trained in creative writing, and I've sure as hell never had a real piece of PUBLISHED work. I'm DESPERATE for feedback, and I don't want to pay for it. So comments are really all I have. So I really wish folk would leave more of them.

I don't care if they're nasty. My skin's not really thin enough that I register someone not liking my story as being "nasty". I mean, I've had people tell me that I should die over some of my old stories- because they weren't properly warned about the content. That was on me. That taught me that I need to put reader discretion warnings at the top (because tags are on the bottom and many readers don't use them). Even the "nasty" shit taught me something- was valuable feedback. If you don't see your work as part of your identity, but as something you created /specifically so you can improve/ then critical feedback doesn't hurt you. It took me a long time to understand why people were getting so personally insulted by negative feedback, because my brain just isn't wired like that, but I do totally get it now. It's just not something that I really think too long on. Nothing is going to be for everyone.

That might be because I usually write some pretty niche stuff so I EXPECT that it will have a niche audience.

But again, it's not the content, it's my writing that I need help with. But feedback on the content does help me figure out where to post it.

I just think that comments ARE really valuable. I'd never turn them off.

I get it, I really do. I was there once myself. Then I realized that comments were more for the spontaneous ego boost rather than being any real benefit to me as a writer.

Most readers understand this is a free site and that means they don't get commercial quality work to read. They have to put up with poor formatting and the not-so-occasional punctuation/grammar mistake. Those are no big deal here for the most part. Though there are trolls who love to do nothing else but pick your fictional universe apart because it doesn't conform to "reality".

If you're getting 4+ ratings, you hit the mark for the niche you were aiming for. For the most part, the stories that do well here are those that excite the prurient interests of the readers. In some categories, the readers only want porn. In others, they want plot and character development to go with their porn. Like I said, if you're getting 4+ ratings, you hit the mark. If you want that H you need to be paying attention to what other writers have done in the same category. Refine your work to target the audience desires.

(It's like writing commercial fiction - if you just want published, go write formula romance. If you want to write and get published, it's a bit of a higher mountain to climb. You need to research both your work AND the desires of the marketplace as well as the "wish lists" of the agents/publishers before you outline the plot or type the first word.)

If you really want feedback, then go to the Story Feedback forum and post an excerpt. Expect to be blasted because of the "your story isn't anywhere near as good as MINE, MINE, MINE!" type of response. If you want GOOD feedback, head on over to the editors forum as ask for a beta reader interested in your niche category to critique your story.

It's hard to get someone to do that because it's a lot of work for no pay. Even in real life getting beta readers isn't easy. Keeping them is harder because people's situations change. They don't have time, or they're moving, or they retire, die, etc. There's that trust factor too, you have to trust that your beta isn't stealing your work for themselves.

You can also PM someone whom you think might read your story and give good feedback. The worst they can say is no thanks. I hesitate to say that I'd do it because I don't want to be flooded with pleas of "read my hopeless crap" but my PM box is always open and I have very few reading restrictions other than disliking the horror genre.

 

[HisArpy]

Autocorrect is a clusterduck.

Someone here has a sig line where they say they're tired of Autocorrect's shirt.

 

[mAnn_Tagonist]

It's hilarious seeing adults taking themselves and their shitty stories so seriously. If you were any good you wouldn't be publishing them on literotica and you'd be making a living off of writing.

 

[HisArpy]

It's hilarious seeing adults taking themselves and their shitty stories so seriously. If you were any good you wouldn't be publishing them on literotica and you'd be making a living off of writing.

We don't? Sez who? You? The noncontrib who comes to a porn site with FREE STORIES to trash the authors who are the basis of the financial support of the site?


There are more than a few writers here who get paid for their work. I've been commercially published. I also know that SR71Pilot/KeithD sells his books in decent numbers. There are others.

If you don't like the fact that this site is for writers/authors, and that we use it to experiment in writing style/ideas as well as develop skills, you are always free to leave and troll elsewhere.

In fact, I encourage you to do just that.

 

[mAnn_Tagonist]

We don't? Sez who? You? The noncontrib who comes to a porn site with FREE STORIES to trash the authors who are the basis of the financial support of the site?


There are more than a few writers here who get paid for their work. I've been commercially published. I also know that SR71Pilot/KeithD sells his books in decent numbers. There are others.

If you don't like the fact that this site is for writers/authors, and that we use it to experiment in writing style/ideas as well as develop skills, you are always free to leave and troll elsewhere.

In fact, I encourage you to do just that.

Commercially published...lol. you dont make a living off of writing. Because I think its pathetic for adults to write smut I should leave? I dont think so, Tim. Maybe you should go hang out with all the other "accomplished" "authors" and pull your geriatric pud with them in the AH. Your shitty stories have no value on the GB.

 

[HisArpy]

Commercially published...lol. you dont make a living off of writing. Because I think its pathetic for adults to write smut I should leave? I dont think so, Tim. Maybe you should go hang out with all the other "accomplished" "authors" and pull your geriatric pud with them in the AH. Your shitty stories have no value on the GB.

So, your great idea is to come to a porn site supported by the free stories that are published here, and talk smack about everyone including the site owner.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53599267.jpg

Secondly, most commercial fiction authors don't "make a living" off of their works.

https://medium.com/@shauntagrimes/what-is-the-average-income-for-a-fiction-writer-4589bee55959

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/20/earnings-authors-below-minimum-wage

Third, I'll be you're one of those trolls who vote 1 on every story just because you can get away with it. Right?

 

[BlinkOneSomething]

It's hilarious seeing adults taking themselves and their shitty stories so seriously. If you were any good you wouldn't be publishing them on literotica and you'd be making a living off of writing.

What a douchebag. I find it hilarious that you take the time to read this thread then post this juvenile vitriol like a total asshole. Go away, there's free stuff for you to enjoy that other people have given of themselves.

 

[CandiCame]

I get it, I really do. I was there once myself. Then I realized that comments were more for the spontaneous ego boost rather than being any real benefit to me as a writer.

Most readers understand this is a free site and that means they don't get commercial quality work to read. They have to put up with poor formatting and the not-so-occasional punctuation/grammar mistake. Those are no big deal here for the most part. Though there are trolls who love to do nothing else but pick your fictional universe apart because it doesn't conform to "reality".

If you're getting 4+ ratings, you hit the mark for the niche you were aiming for. For the most part, the stories that do well here are those that excite the prurient interests of the readers. In some categories, the readers only want porn. In others, they want plot and character development to go with their porn. Like I said, if you're getting 4+ ratings, you hit the mark. If you want that H you need to be paying attention to what other writers have done in the same category. Refine your work to target the audience desires.

(It's like writing commercial fiction - if you just want published, go write formula romance. If you want to write and get published, it's a bit of a higher mountain to climb. You need to research both your work AND the desires of the marketplace as well as the "wish lists" of the agents/publishers before you outline the plot or type the first word.)

If you really want feedback, then go to the Story Feedback forum and post an excerpt. Expect to be blasted because of the "your story isn't anywhere near as good as MINE, MINE, MINE!" type of response. If you want GOOD feedback, head on over to the editors forum as ask for a beta reader interested in your niche category to critique your story.

It's hard to get someone to do that because it's a lot of work for no pay. Even in real life getting beta readers isn't easy. Keeping them is harder because people's situations change. They don't have time, or they're moving, or they retire, die, etc. There's that trust factor too, you have to trust that your beta isn't stealing your work for themselves.

You can also PM someone whom you think might read your story and give good feedback. The worst they can say is no thanks. I hesitate to say that I'd do it because I don't want to be flooded with pleas of "read my hopeless crap" but my PM box is always open and I have very few reading restrictions other than disliking the horror genre.

I actually did go to the feedback forum and they were SUPER helpful. I suggested that for the OP, as well. That really probably is the best route to go here- but I have a really hard time begging people to read shit I KNOW is shit. I... I mean you say that you remember what it's like to be me, but either you don't- or there's some major walls that I just HAVE to get through and some major barriers I just have to overcome if I want to improve. I don't want to beg for beta readers or editors, force them to do a lot of work for free, etc. I don't know how anyone can ever properly display their gratitude for something like that.

So, in the really real world, off of Lit, I tried to write a book- again, remember that I'm not a good writer. I TRIED to get beta readers- and most people made it about 3 chapters before they just ghosted. Just GONE. It's really labor intensive, and it's not an easy thing to do- and it's sure as hell not an easy thing to get people to do for free.

Professional story editors wanted $300+ to look at it. I just don't have it to throw down.

Also, like I said before, I don't think that ratings actually mean anything- they don't mean that something is good, because I'm getting over 4 and I'm shit. They just mean that the people who liked it are the ones who cared enough to make it to the end and vote. People who don't like something normally ghost. They don't leave feedback or ratings. I'm not like, "Lit famous" so I'm not going to attract hate, I'm just going to fade into the background. For me, all feedback is good feedback- because I'm not good enough at this job to be too good for this site.

Another thing about the feedback forum, is I feel bad because I don't leave enough feedback- but it's a double edged sword kind of thing because like... I feel like I should be leaving feedback for the people who left me feedback- but also like... what the hell am I gonna say to them? I don't know how to improve writing, that's why I NEED feedback. Anything I say is going to be useless. Some of those people are published authors who SELL their work. There's nothing I can do for them. But I also can't just ask them to help me without paying them or doing ANYTHING for them.

So I'm caught on a 22, type of deal. I'm too dumb to help, but I'm not an asshole who wants to ask people to do shit for nothing. So I don't know what to do here.

It's hilarious seeing adults taking themselves and their shitty stories so seriously. If you were any good you wouldn't be publishing them on literotica and you'd be making a living off of writing.

That's literally why people NEED feedback, my dude. Like... you are correct, but you said it in a really derogatory way. Do you think that people just magic themselves into being good enough to catch an agent's eye? Like, are you under the impression that all published authors just sold their soul at the crossroads for talent or someshit?

People need feedback and practice to improve so that they can be good. Not just in writing, but in anything. That's how humans work.

 

[CandiCame]

If you want an H, just wait a little bit. It also tells you nothing.

 

[HisArpy]

I actually did go to the feedback forum and they were SUPER helpful. I suggested that for the OP, as well. That really probably is the best route to go here- but I have a really hard time begging people to read shit I KNOW is shit. I... I mean you say that you remember what it's like to be me, but either you don't- or there's some major walls that I just HAVE to get through and some major barriers I just have to overcome if I want to improve. I don't want to beg for beta readers or editors, force them to do a lot of work for free, etc. I don't know how anyone can ever properly display their gratitude for something like that.

You say "Please" and "Thank You" and mean it.

So, in the really real world, off of Lit, I tried to write a book- again, remember that I'm not a good writer. I TRIED to get beta readers- and most people made it about 3 chapters before they just ghosted. Just GONE. It's really labor intensive, and it's not an easy thing to do- and it's sure as hell not an easy thing to get people to do for free.

I've written several books. Probably over 100. Most of them were shit because I had to learn how to write not just put words on paper. It took a lot of experimenting with technique, style, focus, and so on. No one is born a writer, we all have to develop our skills at it. After 30 years of struggling to find the keys, I'm finally getting there.

Professional story editors wanted $300+ to look at it. I just don't have it to throw down.

Neither do I. I learned the hard way that it's not worth it.

I was once told that you don't have to be someone with a degree in English Literature to edit a book. You just have to know how to say "I don't like this part because" as well as "I really like the way you worded this" and the oft wanted and desired "I WANT MORE OF THIS!!!!". People who read know what they want in a story. Listen to them tell you how to make your story something they want in a story.

Also, like I said before, I don't think that ratings actually mean anything- they don't mean that something is good, because I'm getting over 4 and I'm shit. They just mean that the people who liked it are the ones who cared enough to make it to the end and vote. People who don't like something normally ghost. They don't leave feedback or ratings. I'm not like, "Lit famous" so I'm not going to attract hate, I'm just going to fade into the background. For me, all feedback is good feedback- because I'm not good enough at this job to be too good for this site.

You're being too hard on yourself. You don't have to be a raging narcissist but no one ever succeeded by constantly calling themselves a failure in their endeavors.

Another thing about the feedback forum, is I feel bad because I don't leave enough feedback- but it's a double edged sword kind of thing because like... I feel like I should be leaving feedback for the people who left me feedback- but also like... what the hell am I gonna say to them? I don't know how to improve writing, that's why I NEED feedback. Anything I say is going to be useless. Some of those people are published authors who SELL their work. There's nothing I can do for them. But I also can't just ask them to help me without paying them or doing ANYTHING for them.

So I'm caught on a 22, type of deal. I'm too dumb to help, but I'm not an asshole who wants to ask people to do shit for nothing. So I don't know what to do here.

This site is FULL OF people who volunteer to do shit for nothing.

On top of that, you're looking at it all wrong. Reading a story that no one has ever seen before AND getting to put your own fingerprints in it (albeit without any recognition for it) is a reward for doing nothing more than reading a story. Is that cool or what?

That's literally why people NEED feedback, my dude. Like... you are correct, but you said it in a really derogatory way. Do you think that people just magic themselves into being good enough to catch an agent's eye? Like, are you under the impression that all published authors just sold their soul at the crossroads for talent or someshit?

Well... didn't you see the signpost (and the hanging tree) back there?

People need feedback and practice to improve so that they can be good. Not just in writing, but in anything. That's how humans work.

Feedback doesn't have to be structured is all I'm saying. The comments you get for stories here come after the fact. I'd rather get a critique while I'm writing the story so that I can adjust it or scrap it as needed before I put it out for public consumption.

Once it's out there I can't change it so telling me at that point you'd like to see me do this or that with the plot or characters isn't all that helpful.

But that's me.

That said, there are things that good stories all have in common. They develop the readers' mental visualizations of the universe/scenery, the characters, the characters' personalities, and engage the reader because the reader can empathize with the plot/characters/universe.

You have to have dialog to describe these things rather than narration. You need internal dialog to establish the characters' personality traits. You need to sprinkle these things all through the story rather than putting them all in 1 place like a garbage dump of information because the point of the story is to take a flawed character and turn them into a star at the end. The plot is the journey the character goes on in order to do that.

So, sprinkle in things about the characters, make them funny, or sad, or interesting. They don't have to be revelations BY the character about the character, use other characters to show and develop the protagonists traits. Make it flow and keep the pace at a good rate by keeping your reader interested in wondering what happens next.

Pace takes a lot more work that most people think it does. Pace comes from understanding that your plot isn't something like: I got up this morning and went to school." No, your character didn't. They got up, brushed their teeth with the last of the toothpaste in the tube, took a shower where they dropped the soap, skipped breakfast and saw the accident on the corner between the school bus and the taxi cab. And that's why they were late for class.

What that means is that a pace isn't just a few things in a straight line. It's a stream of constant little things that all connect into the whole which is the plot. And that there's just enough of them to keep the reader going forward rather than burning out or getting bored.

I have to go to an appointment but when I get back later this morning I'll read something of yours. Hit me with a link so I don't have to dig for it.

 

[BlinkOneSomething]

I really like what you said about pace, and agree it is hard to dictate to the reader. The sentence "Several days later, despite all of his thwarted attempts, mAnn still hadn't achieved an erection, " could theoretically fill several chapters, but filled with stuff that nobody is interested in.

 

[mAnn_Tagonist]

What a douchebag. I find it hilarious that you take the time to read this thread then post this juvenile vitriol like a total asshole. Go away, there's free stuff for you to enjoy that other people have given of themselves.

Sorry I dont like shitty porn stories written by shut in losers. Better luck next time, asshole.

 

[HisArpy]

Sorry I dont like shitty porn stories written by shut in losers. Better luck next time, asshole.

Then why are you here?

Wait, don't tell me, it's because you need frequent self flagellation and selfie pics of rory in the morning are what get you going. Right?

 

[OldJourno]

The readers here really need to step it up with their feedback if they want authors to continue to post here. It's bad. It's the only repayment we get, people! Take 2 minutes to drop a line. We took several hours to get you off.

I write really stupid short stories here in a thread called Lithouse Forum. Other Litsters contribute, but few others comment.
I guess we contributors get our gratification by the number of views, though I confess I'll continue to add stupid short stories when I have an idea even if no one reads them.
Anyway, I asked before but didn't look for the answer. What is your author name and where can I find your stories? I don't really know my way around Lit.

 

[HisArpy]

Ok, I read your latest.

It's not bad. It has it's moments of real interest and novelty but it needs more reality based situations/terms/etc in the dialog/narrative framework that could make it seem more lifelike.

Don't just say things like OBS, tell us about how Steve fiddles with the equipment, checking plugs and switches to get it ready to go live on OBS and data storage.

You need internal dialog to set the tone of the characters' readiness and reasoning. Steve isn't new at the cam thing but this time it's different. He should be nervous or something.

You need unintended things to happen because nothing ever goes as planned and then the characters need to visibly sort that stuff out so they can get back on track.

Where's the funny? "Woofboy" would fit so easily in there someplace.

"Ain't that right Woofboy?" Steve ruffled Chuck's hair in jest. And then later... "Woof... boy!" Chuck caught his breath. Steve just grinned and ruffled Chuck's hair again.

Doing that makes them more normal and human and less wooden seeming. They're not chess pieces, they're real people who live in your imagination instead of the real world. Cry and laugh for them. And make them cry and laugh for the reader.

Describe the room, the chains, the clothes. Don't just say they're there, describe them and how the links rattle and/or glint in the bright lights as Woofboy moves because he can't ever seem to just sit still. It's like he's always in motion even when he's sleeping....

Wolf fur clogs the vacuum ya know. So them DVD's better sell well or Steve is gonna have to fix the damn vac again because duct tape doesn't seem to last all that long for some reason.

And damn, no chips and beer for after? Steve must be a real cheap bastard.

You can get more descriptive in the sexy bits. Dripping precum and bouncing erections from exertion or movement are things that happen in real life.

You see? All of that comes down to character development. Character development and motivation are the reasoning behind the characters doing what they're doing, not just the external or visible effects that are the narration in the story.

 

[HisArpy]

I write really stupid short stories here in a thread called Lithouse Forum. Other Litsters contribute, but few others comment.
I guess we contributors get our gratification by the number of views, though I confess I'll continue to add stupid short stories when I have an idea even if no one reads them.
Anyway, I asked before but didn't look for the answer. What is your author name and where can I find your stories? I don't really know my way around Lit.

If you go to Lit's Main site portal you can click on the various links to stories or to the author index. You can check there to see if the username of someone you like has any stories.

Or you can browse by category or look at the newly published stuff.

Most of the members who have stories up on Lit will have a link in their profiles. Click on their user name and select "View public Profile" to go to their profile page. There'll be a link there someplace which takes you to another page which lists their stuff. Click the links there and you get that story.

And, of course, lots of us put story links in our sig lines.

 

[jaF0]

I look at this place as an on-line version of Penthouse Letters or Variations. People write shit and submit. Maybe somebody reads it, maybe not. But I don't recall ever seeing a comments section in either of those magazines.

 

[HisArpy]

I really like what you said about pace, and agree it is hard to dictate to the reader. The sentence "Several days later, despite all of his thwarted attempts, mAnn still hadn't achieved an erection, " could theoretically fill several chapters, but filled with stuff that nobody is interested in.

Well, mAnn is probably interested in it. I do think it's safe to say that probably no one else is interested in 47 pages of WAAA HOOO! shouted repeatedly from the direction of the sudsy tub. Mostly because no one is that interested in the fact that mAnn's big toe fits into the opening of the tub spigot no matter how many times he sticks it in there.

Seriously though, a good story isn't claymation/animation with words. The characters have to feel like they're alive. To do that, they have to have backgrounds and flaws. They have to have the same things you have that make you who you are. The same kinds of trials and tribulations you've suffered. If an author can do that, they can make the reader believe. And that's the point of story telling.

 

[mAnn_Tagonist]

Then why are you here?

Wait, don't tell me, it's because you need frequent self flagellation and selfie pics of rory in the morning are what get you going. Right?

I'm here because the GB doeant have shitty porn stories. What are you new or just plain stupid?

 

[HarryHill]

If you go to Lit's Main site portal you can click on the various links to stories or to the author index. You can check there to see if the username of someone you like has any stories.

Or you can browse by category or look at the newly published stuff.

Most of the members who have stories up on Lit will have a link in their profiles. Click on their user name and select "View public Profile" to go to their profile page. There'll be a link there someplace which takes you to another page which lists their stuff. Click the links there and you get that story.

And, of course, lots of us put story links in our sig lines.

It's a real pain in the ass looking for an authors stories through Literotica's front door so I made a back door Links to keep you from going crazy