Collared Girl

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

I'm documenting your quote for future reference.

Just do a search for your name and "racist." You've called lavy a racist and a xenophobe. And here I thought I was the only xenophobe. I feel so ordinary.

I gave him the link on the previous page. I don't know why it's so hard to find.


Denial is a terrible way to go through life.

 

[Mischka]

Denial is a terrible way to go through life.

No it's not!

 

[lavender]

Actually, he said my statement was racist - not me. The statement I made was about the current state of the law. And, the Constitution is a bit "ethnocentric" in that due process only applies to citizens. I agree that sometimes that allows our government to be hypocritical.

REDWAVE and I get along. He can be an ass - a big one. But, he's been nice to me.

He's just a zealot and an idealist. He's also a bit loose on use of the term racist.

 

[calypso_21]

I just think the use of the phrase collared girl is distasteful.

I agree with your statement Lavender but I think it goes beyond the one phrase, which has been stated in the posts. I think that any term used in a derogatory connotation is distasteful and shows the user behind it to lack a certain amount of backbone and sensitivity. For one to use a negative comment to belittle someone is merely projecting his/her own inadequecies and poor self image onto someone else.

I read most of the posts that are made on this site and it is disappointing to see so many people spew forth post after post about how openminded and tolerant they are when in fact most people here if they disagree with someone feel the need to impose their opinions onto someone rather than make a fact based informative arguement as to why their belief makes sense. Or they are just so disgusted and narrowminded about another's POV/choices that they need to tear that person apart.

It seems to matter little what the person's sexual proclivities are, it appears that people prefer to demean others whatever their reasoning is behind their actions.

Just like you stated, I just think resorting to using sexual inclinations. as an insult is a lowblow. I think there are other more logical and less inflammatory ways of dealing with people. (I wrote this before I read what you stated)

And as far as being nice to those who are hated, it seems to me that if people would stop getting their panties in a twist over what others say, and maybe try to defuse the situations at times, instead of feeding more fuel into the fire, those people would probably lighten up a bit as well.

Exactly.

It all boils down to people being nasty and the words they use to show their fangs. Let the words affect you and they have indeed sunk their teeth into you.

 

[weed]

Re: You folks are confusing as hell do you know that?

Posting under several differnt names/personalities
Contradicting your self in the same thread.

Saying you have class but get a backbone.....

Hanns threatening people with guns

You people are too much

I spent entirely too much time trying to figure out who was right and who was wrong......but you know what. All you argumentative crybabies are Nuts!!!

Im not the only one who is bored to tears with your fights/makeups/insults/threats, and more fights. Who's on who's team, who's cool who's not. And last but not least who the hell is who.

Take it to the playground forum....thats where it belongs.



Killswitch

Welcome to the GB, Killswitch. It actually does go in cycles.

There is a mix here and that mix will show itself in different ways on any given day....just as there are many games that people play here.

You don't have to play any game you don't want to though....you will certainly find another game to play if you try.



And if anybody doesn't think this is relevant, it is.

 

[Freya]

Darn, Freya, you saw right through me, didn't you?

Well you know, I'm not all bad for a mouthpiece of the ruling class.

 

[REDWAVE]

Of or for?

Was that mouthpiece of the ruling class, or mouthpiece for the ruling class?

 

[Freya]

Re: Of or for?

Was that mouthpiece of the ruling class, or mouthpiece for the ruling class?

I don't know. I tend not to keep detailed records of what you say. Maybe we could ask one of the official REDWAVE historians if they wrote it down somewhere.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Zipman, you ought to know as well as I do that I coined the term "Dramadom" and you also know as well as I do that I did it directly to insult Lance for the bullshit he had fun with in the BDSM forum. I did not, however, bring it here and haven't used it since. Other than one person, perhaps two, no one has used it as a running insult for a group of people.

Now, can we lay the dramadom thing to rest or do we wish to sit here and turn yet another thread designed to bring peace and reconciliation to the board into a mudslinging fight?

Why must you clobber the gift horse before you even look it in the mouth? This is not the first time, you've done this, zip. Either you live and breathe drama, or you have ulterior motives in presenting everyone you don't like in the worst possible light at all times.

I so have no respect for you or your oh so piously rendered spin doctoring.

 

[Freya]

KM, it has been used here lately - not by you granted, but it has been.

 

[REDWAVE]

Freya

I think you missed my little pun there, but that's all right.

It is amazing how some people go to such great lengths to dig up my old posts, ones I don't even remember any more, isn't it? It shows how obsessed some people can be.


Lavender-- it is a somewhat fine distinction, but an important one. And I don't think Mischka is really racist, just a pain in the ass.

 

[KillerMuffin]

KM, it has been used here lately - not by you granted, but it has been.

Thank you.

However, lavender is trying to make some peace and zipman comes along and decides that's not good enough for him. He ruined yet another thread that started out bringing people together laughing and joking that were on opposite sides of the insult fence.

The man owes her a serious apology for rubbing dirt in her face when she's just trying bring a cessation to hostilities. It's disrespectful, mean, and is only intensifying the anger all around.

This isn't right.

 

[Freya]

Re: Freya

I think you missed my little pun there, but that's all right.

It is amazing how some people go to such great lengths to dig up my old posts, ones I don't even remember any more, isn't it? It shows how obsessed some people can be.


Lavender-- it is a somewhat fine distinction, but an important one. And I don't think Mischka is really racist, just a pain in the ass.

I caught it! And yes, you're right.

KM - I didn't find it that inflammatory, but I'm beginning to wonder at times if I read the same things others do.

 

[zipman]

Zipman, you ought to know as well as I do that I coined the term "Dramadom" and you also know as well as I do that I did it directly to insult Lance for the bullshit he had fun with in the BDSM forum. I did not, however, bring it here and haven't used it since. Other than one person, perhaps two, no one has used it as a running insult for a group of people.

Now, can we lay the dramadom thing to rest or do we wish to sit here and turn yet another thread designed to bring peace and reconciliation to the board into a mudslinging fight?

Why must you clobber the gift horse before you even look it in the mouth? This is not the first time, you've done this, zip. Either you live and breathe drama, or you have ulterior motives in presenting everyone you don't like in the worst possible light at all times.

I so have no respect for you or your oh so piously rendered spin doctoring.

KM,

Yes I knew that you quoted the phrase. I didn't mention that at all, did I? My question to Lav was an honest one. I was curious as to whether the same criteria showed to "collared girl" also made "DramaDom" equally inappropriate in her eyes.

So, I either live or breathe drama or I ulterior motives, is that it?
To be honest KM, I've been waiting for this. I mean, I dared to criticize you on a post, and we all know that when it comes to the Lit bullies, you're the head of the pack. Say what you want about anyone, but don't ever criticize KM.

As for owing Lav an apology, I don't feel that I do. I rubbed no dirt in her face nor was I mean or disrespectful. I asked a question and gave friendly responses to it. If she feels offended by what I've done, then I would be happy to publicily and sincerely apologize to her for it. All she has to do is let me know, either on this thread or via pm that I did offend her. But I won't apologize just because you, the self proclaimed goddess of judgementalism thinks it should be so.

So I ruined another thread huh? What really pissed you off there Muffie? Still the grudge from the other day? Should the other people who commented on how you often blast someone and then publicly apologize the next day be worried that they're next? Let me give you a news flash muffie, I really don't care what you think about me.

You have this tendency to read what you want to in a post (whether it is written there or not) and then insinuate motivations that people have for posting. I tried to explain it to you via pm, and even apologized to you if you were offended by what I said the other day. If that wasn't good enough for you, then it sounds like a personal problem to me!

 

[lavender]

Zip didn't offend me. He kinda sidetracked a thread, but oh well. I do that all the time.

I stick by my post above that Zip is using his argument in a fashion that suits him while he supports those that use sexuality as a tool against many women on this board. But, that's neither here nor there.

It was a bit off-putting to be seemingly lumped into a group of people who use a phrase that I've never used nor alluded to on this or any other board.

Everyone has hidden agendas these days. Almost every single one of us.

I wonder who we have to thank for that.

 

[RawHumor]

Everyone has hidden agendas these days. Almost every single one of us.

I wonder who we have to thank for that.

Personally, I blame Bill Clinton. But that pretty much goes without saying, I think.

 

[Lancecastor]

Everyone has hidden agendas these days.

I wonder who we have to thank for that.

Canada?

 

[Freya]

Canada?

Not the country - just the residents.

 

[MissTaken]

I have to race off to a function, and didn't read the thread.

Thanks, lavey!

Good initial post.

I find the "collared" girl nickname offensive as a woman and yes, as a freak...errrr submissive.


Thanks again.

 

[zipman]

Zip didn't offend me. He kinda sidetracked a thread, but oh well. I do that all the time.

I stick by my post above that Zip is using his argument in a fashion that suits him while he supports those that use sexuality as a tool against many women on this board. But, that's neither here nor there.

It was a bit off-putting to be seemingly lumped into a group of people who use a phrase that I've never used nor alluded to on this or any other board.

Everyone has hidden agendas these days. Almost every single one of us.

I wonder who we have to thank for that.

For the record, I do not support people on this board. I post to topics, and I speak out on them regardless of who made the post. I have spoken and argued with Lance on the BDSM board, as both KM and Lav know. As far as people that use sexuality as a tool, I think that applies to many people here. Everything is used, from political beliefs to ethnicity, from religious beliefs to who a person's friends are.

I never lumped you into any category Lav, and in addition, I specifically stated that I am not speaking about you when I made those posts. How much clearer could I possibly have been.

And just out of curiosity, which post were you referring to above. I saw KM say something about how I allegedly use my arguments, but nothing from you.

The botton line is that I post honestly, about what I believe and what I think. I support points of view, not people. Anyone that has any questions about that can feel free to ask me about it, either on this thread, or in pms.