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[Lazaran]

A gang of anti-Israel thugs attacked an orthodox shul in LA today. The Jews knew they were coming because of chatter on social media and begged the police to protect them, but the cops said they’d been ordered to “stand down”.

A pogrom was averted by the neighborhood Jews taking to the streets to protect their shul. The cops finally started making arrests when there were fist-fights on the sidewalk.

Stay safe out there BSG.

And try to stay shiny.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Stay safe out there BSG.

And try to stay shiny.

Thanks. It’s very scary. The orthodox neighborhood that was attacked today is only a few miles away from where I live. The encampments at UCLA were bad enough, but at least the antisemitism there was confined to campus. It didn’t spill out into the surrounding Jewish and Persian neighborhoods. The rumors I’m seeing on J-Twitter claim the pro-Palestinian gang drove up from Orange County specifically to target Jews.

 

[Lazaran]

Thanks. It’s very scary. The orthodox neighborhood that was attacked today is only a few miles away from where I live. The encampments at UCLA were bad enough, but at least the antisemitism there was confined to campus. It didn’t spill out into the surrounding Jewish and Persian neighborhoods. The rumors I’m seeing on J-Twitter claim the pro-Palestinian gang drove up from Orange County specifically to target Jews.

Any group or individual that is proven to have traveled to a place of worship, a women’s healthcare facility, a gay nightclub, a racial / ethnic college / community building, etc, with the intention of causing a disturbance of any kind, should be charged with a hate crime that carries a minimum sentence of a year behind bars.

Enough of this shit.

The fact that the police were given advanced warning and they allowed things to develop and escalate is dereliction of duty and gross negligence, imho.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

BrightShinyGirl, Iranians are not Arabs, they're Farsi.

For that matter, Israelis are not real Jews, they're White Khazars. Black people are actually Jew, and since this passes from mother to daughter, then only black and mixed women are True Jew.

The Persians were conquered by Arab invaders. Many Iranians hate the Islamists ruling modern Iran.

There are “black” Jews, just as there are “white” Jews, because as a people we were spread far and wide during the Diaspora, but the origins of the Jews in the Levant is indisputable from the archeological evidence.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804906309344710841

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Workers at the Beirut airport claim that there’s a massive weapon stockpile from shipments from Iran to Hezbollah. They’re afraid there could be another explosion like the “fireworks” incident that destroyed the port in 2020.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbo...anian-arms-lebanese-whistleblowers-claim/amp/

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806327567512637734

 

[LLCox]

1 Samuel: 18-27... that would be a little over the top these days. Would you like fries with that?

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/...him Michal, his [younger] daughter, as a wife.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Speaking of "tribal fights"....anyone seen the "Pink Hoodie Hajib Fight" kerfluffle?

This happened in a New Brunswick Canada high school.

A teenaged girl, recently immigrant to Canada from Israel, randomly tears the hajib off of a Muslim girl in a school parking lot. The Muslim girl is enraged. She pulls a hoodie over her hair to replace her hajib and then runs screaming after the Israeli girl (who is walking away with her boyfriend).

The girl's yelling gets phone cameras going from other students.

The Muslim girl starts pounding the Israeli girl mercilessly. Muslim girl realizes her hoodie/hajib has slipped again, she pauses to adjust hair covering and Israeli girl kicks Muslim girl in the head. The boyfriend (and everyone else) are all standing around watching this. A teacher (???) seems to walk over to the boyfriend and inquires about what is going on.

Israeli girl grabs Muslim girl in a headlock and tries to peel off hajib/hoodie again, Muslim girl expertly reverses and takes Israeli girl to the ground, and proceeds to deliver 7 or 8 rabbit punches to the Israeli girl's face. Israeli girl screams STOP! and teacher decides to break things up.

The Israeli girls takes her humiliation out on the teacher "WHY DID YOU GIVE HER PERMISSION TO PUNCH MEEEEE?"
The teacher calmly replies "Why did you give yourself permission to remove her hajib?"

At this point, it's simply a stupid video of a bully getting her comeuppance.

LINK TO FIGHT Entire fight lasts 43 seconds. (Sorry about linking instead of media link, There is some odd prohibition about sharing this video)

Should've ended there, right? BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

Enter the hyper-partisan Jewish mayor of the town in New Brunswick where the fight occurred.

Mayor Jeremy Levi has used his position as Mayor to advance the cause nearest and dearest to his heart:
Jews are not to blame. Ever. End of story.

Hizzoner has used his bully pulpit nearly every single day to rationalize Israeli genocide and demonize any and all Muslims.

He thunders on his official Twitter account the following day that the (selectively edited) video is "proof" that "Jews are being brutally beaten simply because they're Jewish" and that's why Jews should not feel safe here.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7373362293796785454

The Canadian Jewish News trumpets this as an "exclusive" on the front page the following day, and the day after that the New York Post gives the story international reach.

The Hajib Thief is canonized as the "Face of Jewish Victimhood in Canada" and embarks on a media tour, with a PR assistant. "oh its just awful, I came back from my suspension and I'm told I cannot use the public toilets in my own school "for my own safety"...I have to use to toilet in the Teacher's Lounge!"

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Speaking of "tribal fights"....anyone seen the "Pink Hoodie Hajib Fight" kerfluffle?

This happened in a New Brunswick Canada high school.

A teenaged girl, recently immigrant to Canada from Israel, randomly tears the hajib off of a Muslim girl in a school parking lot. The Muslim girl is enraged. She pulls a hoodie over her hair to replace her hajib and then runs screaming after the Israeli girl (who is walking away with her boyfriend).

The girl's yelling gets phone cameras going from other students.

The Muslim girl starts pounding the Israeli girl mercilessly. Muslim girl realizes her hoodie/hajib has slipped again, she pauses to adjust hair covering and Israeli girl kicks Muslim girl in the head. The boyfriend (and everyone else) are all standing around watching this. A teacher (???) seems to walk over to the boyfriend and inquires about what is going on.

Israeli girl grabs Muslim girl in a headlock and tries to peel off hajib/hoodie again, Muslim girl expertly reverses and takes Israeli girl to the ground, and proceeds to deliver 7 or 8 rabbit punches to the Israeli girl's face. Israeli girl screams STOP! and teacher decides to break things up.

The Israeli girls takes her humiliation out on the teacher "WHY DID YOU GIVE HER PERMISSION TO PUNCH MEEEEE?"
The teacher calmly replies "Why did you give yourself permission to remove her hajib?"

At this point, it's simply a stupid video of a bully getting her comeuppance.

LINK TO FIGHT Entire fight lasts 43 seconds. (Sorry about linking instead of media link, There is some odd prohibition about sharing this video)

Should've ended there, right? BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

Enter the hyper-partisan Jewish mayor of the town in New Brunswick where the fight occurred.

Mayor Jeremy Levi has used his position as Mayor to advance the cause nearest and dearest to his heart:
Jews are not to blame. Ever. End of story.

Hizzoner has used his bully pulpit nearly every single day to rationalize Israeli genocide and demonize any and all Muslims.

He thunders on his official Twitter account the following day that the (selectively edited) video is "proof" that "Jews are being brutally beaten simply because they're Jewish" and that's why Jews should not feel safe here.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7373362293796785454

The Canadian Jewish News trumpets this as an "exclusive" on the front page the following day, and the day after that the New York Post gives the story international reach.

The Hajib Thief is canonized as the "Face of Jewish Victimhood in Canada" and embarks on a media tour, with a PR assistant. "oh its just awful, I came back from my suspension and I'm told I cannot use the public toilets in my own school "for my own safety"...I have to use to toilet in the Teacher's Lounge!"

The attacker was 16. The victim was 14.

 

[butters]

The attacker was 16. The victim was 14.

which attacker, which victim? the first girl who attacked and then got taken down or the girl who was first attacked and then fought?

 

[lovecraft68]

I think putting it simply-and to use the "its always all of the people we don't like" mentality.

If I see someone supporting Palestine, they have just told me they

Support the subjugation, rape and abuse of women
Support the jailing and killing of homosexuals
Support the murder of Trans folks
Are racist
Aere sexist
Are homophobic
Are Xenophobic
Are genocidal
Are religious zealots who seek to force the entire world to live in all the above listed behavior.

But I bet those same people have plenty of derogatory things to say about Christians/conservatives.

Last week I saw a "Free Palestine" sign on a pole, pulled over, pulled it off, broke it over my knee and tossed it down the street. I will do so anytime I see that sign, a poster, a flag, and if there's an asshole waving it, I'll do it to them.

After all, leftists, isn't that how Nazi's should be treated?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

which attacker, which victim? the first girl who attacked and then got taken down or the girl who was first attacked and then fought?

The Jewish girl was younger. The girl in the pink hoodie beating her up was older.

 

[Lazaran]

Speaking of "tribal fights"....anyone seen the "Pink Hoodie Hajib Fight" kerfluffle?

This happened in a New Brunswick Canada high school.

A teenaged girl, recently immigrant to Canada from Israel, randomly tears the hajib off of a Muslim girl in a school parking lot. The Muslim girl is enraged. She pulls a hoodie over her hair to replace her hajib and then runs screaming after the Israeli girl (who is walking away with her boyfriend).

The girl's yelling gets phone cameras going from other students.

The Muslim girl starts pounding the Israeli girl mercilessly. Muslim girl realizes her hoodie/hajib has slipped again, she pauses to adjust hair covering and Israeli girl kicks Muslim girl in the head. The boyfriend (and everyone else) are all standing around watching this. A teacher (???) seems to walk over to the boyfriend and inquires about what is going on.

Israeli girl grabs Muslim girl in a headlock and tries to peel off hajib/hoodie again, Muslim girl expertly reverses and takes Israeli girl to the ground, and proceeds to deliver 7 or 8 rabbit punches to the Israeli girl's face. Israeli girl screams STOP! and teacher decides to break things up.

The Israeli girls takes her humiliation out on the teacher "WHY DID YOU GIVE HER PERMISSION TO PUNCH MEEEEE?"
The teacher calmly replies "Why did you give yourself permission to remove her hajib?"

At this point, it's simply a stupid video of a bully getting her comeuppance.

LINK TO FIGHT Entire fight lasts 43 seconds. (Sorry about linking instead of media link, There is some odd prohibition about sharing this video)

Should've ended there, right? BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

Enter the hyper-partisan Jewish mayor of the town in New Brunswick where the fight occurred.

Mayor Jeremy Levi has used his position as Mayor to advance the cause nearest and dearest to his heart:
Jews are not to blame. Ever. End of story.

Hizzoner has used his bully pulpit nearly every single day to rationalize Israeli genocide and demonize any and all Muslims.

He thunders on his official Twitter account the following day that the (selectively edited) video is "proof" that "Jews are being brutally beaten simply because they're Jewish" and that's why Jews should not feel safe here.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7373362293796785454

The Canadian Jewish News trumpets this as an "exclusive" on the front page the following day, and the day after that the New York Post gives the story international reach.

The Hajib Thief is canonized as the "Face of Jewish Victimhood in Canada" and embarks on a media tour, with a PR assistant. "oh its just awful, I came back from my suspension and I'm told I cannot use the public toilets in my own school "for my own safety"...I have to use to toilet in the Teacher's Lounge!"

Damn, Rob; you sure interpreted the unfortunate event revealed in that video (and the events leading up to it) in the most biased / one-sided manner possible.

How disappointing.

a) We have no idea why the YOUNGER Jewish girl pulled the hijab off the OLDER Muslim girl’s head. -The video doesn’t show that. The OLDER Muslim girl could have easily provoked the YOUNGER Jewish girl for being from Israel due to the Gaza situation, etc.

b) When the actual fight begins, the OLDER Muslim girl races up from BEHIND the YOUNGER Jewish girl and sucker punches her - getting many shots in before the YOUNGER Jewish girl can mount a defense.

c) Kicked her (the OLDER Muslim girl who attacker from BEHIND) in the head??? The YOUNGER Jewish girl was on her back trying to fend off the OLDER Muslim girl after the surprise attack from BEHIND.

d) If a teacher was present, then they SHOULD have intervened when the OLDER Muslim girl attacked the YOUNGER Jewish girl from BEHIND and began to pummel her.



Your objectivity is gone, Rob.

How disappointing.

Be better.

Do better.

 

[censurat]

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/gl...of-data-indicating-famine-in-gaza/2024/06/30/

the famine is a lie

 

[RobDownSouth]

I readily admit that I have discarded any effort at being objective quite a while back, around the time when Israel killed the 10,000th or so civilian casualty in their Godless Genocide campaign.

The latest responses to the Israeli-Canadian girl committing a religious-fueled bigoted hate crime against the Muslim girl is further evidence of the extraordinary measures that Israel supporters are taking to twist the narrative to fit their preconceived political agenda. No fabrication is to great to remove culpability from Israel's (and Israeli's) misdeeds.

The focus on the attacker being OLDER than the YOUNGER girl who committed the hate crime in the first place is a very weak justification. AGE had nothing to do with this altercation. RELIGIOUS HATRED has everything to do with this altercation, but because the hate crime was perpetrated by an Israeli teenager, we're being told to focus on OLDER and YOUNGER as if that's some sort of justification....

Newsflash: It's not.

Your pleas for me to "be better" fall on deaf ears. I remain convinced that I hold the moral high ground with my insistence that Israel should immediately cease their senseless and inhumane slaughter.

Any reply containing a reference to October 7th as a continuing justification for all Israeli war crimes will receive a canned response: "Don't build the 'world's largest open air prison' if you're not going to staff the gates. The 'inmates' will notice and act accordingly".

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I readily admit that I have discarded any effort at being objective quite a while back, around the time when Israel killed the 10,000th or so civilian casualty in their Godless Genocide campaign.

The latest responses to the Israeli-Canadian girl committing a religious-fueled bigoted hate crime against the Muslim girl is further evidence of the extraordinary measures that Israel supporters are taking to twist the narrative to fit their preconceived political agenda. No fabrication is to great to remove culpability from Israel's (and Israeli's) misdeeds.

The focus on the attacker being OLDER than the YOUNGER girl who committed the hate crime in the first place is a very weak justification. AGE had nothing to do with this altercation. RELIGIOUS HATRED has everything to do with this altercation, but because the hate crime was perpetrated by an Israeli teenager, we're being told to focus on OLDER and YOUNGER as if that's some sort of justification....

Newsflash: It's not.

Your pleas for me to "be better" fall on deaf ears. I remain convinced that I hold the moral high ground with my insistence that Israel should immediately cease their senseless and inhumane slaughter.

Any reply containing a reference to October 7th as a continuing justification for all Israeli war crimes will receive a canned response: "Don't build the 'world's largest open air prison' if you're not going to staff the gates. The 'inmates' will notice and act accordingly".

Antisemites always find reasons to claim that the Jews deserve whatever is done to them.

Just like when black men are shot by cops, racists always find a way to justify it.

"Israel is committing genocide" serves the same purpose as "he tried to grab the officer's gun".

 

[Lazaran]

I readily admit that I have discarded any effort at being objective

Yeah, don’t do that ^…

It’s a bad look…

See also: MAGAts’ TOTAL lack of objectivity.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

I see the Zionist closet racists and genocidal nutcases are still out in force in this thread, spouting many unevidenced, uncited, blatant lies as their creed effectively allows them to do.

I am grateful for the hundreds of thousands of Jews around the world who are firmly saying “not in our name”.

It is by now obvious that Israel is pursuing, and always was pursuing, a genocide in Gaza and forced displacement in the West Bank, and now Lebanon is the next target.

Perhaps stepping back from the brink of a further war and maybe stopping the killing would be the first step towards peace?

But no, I see everyone here - almost exclusively American Zionists (unsurprising) - still lying, still excusing war crimes, still claiming the same tired debunked tropes (in particular the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war - debunked due to a complete lack of evidence provided by Israel) as justification for starving 2.3 million people and continuing to bomb them, destroy their homes, agricultural lands, mosques, churches and hospitals.

I’ve put on ignore virtually every American in this thread and one Israeli. They all have in common Zionist propaganda and Islamophobic views. They are allowed, seemingly, to be racist publicly and aggressive in pushing their point of view with complete impunity from the moderators of this forum.

We see you, and we see you for what you are.

Meanwhile the rest of us will pray for Israel to come to its senses and have the courage to finally stop their genocide and make peace.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Thanks. It’s very scary. The orthodox neighborhood that was attacked today is only a few miles away from where I live. The encampments at UCLA were bad enough, but at least the antisemitism there was confined to campus. It didn’t spill out into the surrounding Jewish and Persian neighborhoods. The rumors I’m seeing on J-Twitter claim the pro-Palestinian gang drove up from Orange County specifically to target Jews.

Just a heads up but I have reported your posts. You are openly lying without providing any evidence. Which is whipping up a belief that all of this is about antisemitism, which is absolutely isn’t.

https://www.salon.com/2024/06/29/no-the-la-synagogue-wasnt-a-pogrom--thats-a-gross-misuse-of-history/#:~:text=While many news reports have,in illegally occupied Palestinian territory.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/26/los-angeles-west-bank-protest

https://www.cair.com/press_releases...stigation-into-violence-at-los-angeles-event/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...esters-clash-los-angeles-synagogue-rcna158671

The synagogue was holding an event about real estate in Israel, and a company that in the past has promoted property listings in Israeli settlements in the West Bank participated.

You are a liar, purely and simply. We see you for what you are. Stirring up lies and hatred because your views are at odds with humanity.

FYI, virtually every academic, every human rights group and human rights lawyer, across the world, tells you that selling Palestinian land from under them as Israelis, is illegal.

All Americans are allowed to protest this under their first amendment rights.

You lying constantly about this does you no credit, in fact you are part of the problem.

For shame.

 

[Lazaran]

I see the Zionist closet racists and genocidal nutcases are still out in force in this thread, spouting many unevidenced, uncited, blatant lies as their creed effectively allows them to do.

I am grateful for the hundreds of thousands of Jews around the world who are firmly saying “not in our name”.

It is by now obvious that Israel is pursuing, and always was pursuing, a genocide in Gaza and forced displacement in the West Bank, and now Lebanon is the next target.

Perhaps stepping back from the brink of a further war and maybe stopping the killing would be the first step towards peace?

But no, I see everyone here - almost exclusively American Zionists (unsurprising) - still lying, still excusing war crimes, still claiming the same tired debunked tropes (in particular the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war - debunked due to a complete lack of evidence provided by Israel) as justification for starving 2.3 million people and continuing to bomb them, destroy their homes, agricultural lands, mosques, churches and hospitals.

I’ve put on ignore virtually every American in this thread and one Israeli. They all have in common Zionist propaganda and Islamophobic views. They are allowed, seemingly, to be racist publicly and aggressive in pushing their point of view with complete impunity from the moderators of this forum.

We see you, and we see you for what you are.

Meanwhile the rest of us will pray for Israel to come to its senses and have the courage to finally stop their genocide and make peace.

I just read an article that revealed many Palestinians in The West Bank and Gaza are rejecting overtures to form a new governing body in Gaza, and instead, they are gravitating towards Hamas, terrorism, and violence.

It is becoming apparent that Gaza and The West Bank must fall totally under Israel’s control, and all Hamas sympathizers must be dealt with appropriately.

It didn’t have to be this way, but the Arabs and Muslims in the region embarked on the path of war and terror against Israel, with the goal of genocide, from the day Israel declared its independence.

It’s time Israel puts an end to the endless war, terror, gray-zone warfare and random violence once and for all.

If that includes leveling Lebanon, Iran, etc, as well, then so be it.

Israel can accept being boiled like a frog, or scorch the earth like a fire-breathing dragon.

It appears Israel has chosen the path of the dragon.

I can’t say as I blame them.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I see the Zionist closet racists and genocidal nutcases are still out in force in this thread, spouting many unevidenced, uncited, blatant lies as their creed effectively allows them to do.

I am grateful for the hundreds of thousands of Jews around the world who are firmly saying “not in our name”.

It is by now obvious that Israel is pursuing, and always was pursuing, a genocide in Gaza and forced displacement in the West Bank, and now Lebanon is the next target.

Perhaps stepping back from the brink of a further war and maybe stopping the killing would be the first step towards peace?

But no, I see everyone here - almost exclusively American Zionists (unsurprising) - still lying, still excusing war crimes, still claiming the same tired debunked tropes (in particular the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war - debunked due to a complete lack of evidence provided by Israel) as justification for starving 2.3 million people and continuing to bomb them, destroy their homes, agricultural lands, mosques, churches and hospitals.

I’ve put on ignore virtually every American in this thread and one Israeli. They all have in common Zionist propaganda and Islamophobic views. They are allowed, seemingly, to be racist publicly and aggressive in pushing their point of view with complete impunity from the moderators of this forum.

We see you, and we see you for what you are.

Meanwhile the rest of us will pray for Israel to come to its senses and have the courage to finally stop their genocide and make peace.

Zionism means that you support Jews having self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Most Jews are Zionists. They may not always agree with what the government of Israel does but they do strongly support Israel’s continued existence.

Anti-zionism is antisemitism.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Just a heads up but I have reported your posts. You are openly lying without providing any evidence. Which is whipping up a belief that all of this is about antisemitism, which is absolutely isn’t.

https://www.salon.com/2024/06/29/no-the-la-synagogue-wasnt-a-pogrom--thats-a-gross-misuse-of-history/#:~:text=While many news reports have,in illegally occupied Palestinian territory.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/26/los-angeles-west-bank-protest

https://www.cair.com/press_releases...stigation-into-violence-at-los-angeles-event/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...esters-clash-los-angeles-synagogue-rcna158671



You are a liar, purely and simply. We see you for what you are. Stirring up lies and hatred because your views are at odds with humanity.

FYI, virtually every academic, every human rights group and human rights lawyer, across the world, tells you that selling Palestinian land from under them as Israelis, is illegal.

All Americans are allowed to protest this under their first amendment rights.

You lying constantly about this does you no credit, in fact you are part of the problem.

For shame.

The temple that was attacked in LA was hosting an event to buy real estate in Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv is not “Palestinian land”. The city was founded in 1909 by local Jews on land they bought north of Jaffa. It was a Jewish city long before Israel was founded in 1948.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So the takeaway here seems to be that bullying and religious hate crimes are NOT to be tolerated, unless the perpetrator is Jewish?

And Jews have the "right" to defend themselves (up to and including disproportionate retaliation) but nobody else does (especially Muslims}?

This whole situation reeks of "special pleading".

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

So the takeaway here seems to be that bullying and religious hate crimes are NOT to be tolerated, unless the perpetrator is Jewish?

And Jews have the "right" to defend themselves (up to and including disproportionate retaliation) but nobody else does (especially Muslims}?

This whole situation reeks of "special pleading".

What religious hate crime are you talking about?