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[RobDownSouth]

I don't think most people believe that. I don't think the Israeli leadership believes that.

But you don't win a war through surgical strikes at the bad people at the top. The only way to beat the Nazis in WW2 was to bomb and kill a lot of Germans. That's war. The Gaza people elected Hamas way back when, and then Hamas kicked out the opposition. You pay the price for the evil people you've picked to lead you. There's no way to take out Hamas without hurting civilians, especially because they launch their rockets from densely populated civilian areas. This is what war is. Israel did not start this war, but it has a right to win it to survive.

The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach, but after what happened on October 7, Israel has no choice but to go after Hamas mercilessly.

A more salient analogy might be the USA's use of nuclear bombs as a response to the Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbor. Higher civilian casualty rates at the Japanese target areas but it minimized the loss of life of American soldiers and was therefore deemed an acceptable rate of "collateral damage".

 

[silky52]

Sadly, your talk here is totally about the arms. However, the Hamas terrorists beheaded babies, raped women and possibly men. They murdered everyone that they could, took women, children, babies, men and the elderly hostage. More than that they murdered cows, and burned down their cow sheds. Why? What did the cows do to them? That was not part of the discussion here.

The reason they did this according to one 'honourable' terrorist is that all civilians are counted as military by Hamas. Therefore my kids, my grandchildren, husband and I are military to them. In other words they want us all to disappear and take 'their' occupied land back. If one looks at history you will find that we the Jews have lived in the Land of Israel for many, many centuries, dispersed during some of those times to the diaspora it's true, but we have a right to live here. More than that we want to live with our Muslim brothers and sisters in peace and prosperity.

 

[silky52]

The murder of innocent Palestinians is not about Hamas and their actions. If both of you are too stupid to see other avenues to proceed...that's on you.

Check out the video on CNN...where Palestinians were evacuating using the path they were instructed...and the IDF attacked them. How do we know it was IDF? The scatter of the debris. Explosive devices detonated at ground level have a different crater than either missiles from the air or artillery. But cool...they were only Palestinians. And that's an acceptable loss. Zero Hamas fighters killed...twenty or so including at least 6 children killed.

You both need help. Mentally you are fucked up.

Totally untrue! Israel informed the Hamas people to move out of the area. Sadly, they were not informed of the destruction and utter animal-like actions of Hamas terrorists last Saturday inside Israel! Why do that if they intend to kill and attack them? They could just leave them where they are and attack them there! I don't want to argue with you, and I don't know who you are. However, this is so untrue. Israel has the most compassionate army in the world. Our soldiers do not rape women or behead babies!!

 

[jomar]

The murder of innocent Palestinians is not about Hamas and their actions. If both of you are too stupid to see other avenues to proceed...that's on you.

Check out the video on CNN...where Palestinians were evacuating using the path they were instructed...and the IDF attacked them. How do we know it was IDF? The scatter of the debris. Explosive devices detonated at ground level have a different crater than either missiles from the air or artillery. But cool...they were only Palestinians. And that's an acceptable loss. Zero Hamas fighters killed...twenty or so including at least 6 children killed.

You both need help. Mentally you are fucked up.

So link it up. That’s how it works, you make a claim and you back it up.

 

[Dribble]

So link it up. That’s how it works, you make a claim and you back it up.

I did it twice. Fuck those incapable of going to the CNN web page and not keeping up on their feeds.

 

[Dribble]

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/14/iran-warning-israel-hezbollah-hamas-war-gaza

And so it begins

 

[Dribble]

Here is a different website for those incapable of doing their own research

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt...l-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/

 

[Dribble]

It is so hard to get information....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/13/poli...tial-gaza-clash-days-before-attack/index.html

Note this one...the information used to brief the White House came from who? Israel?

 

[Dribble]

Now...why would Blinken meet with Abbas?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...stinian-leader-mahmoud-abbas-amman-rcna120115

 

[Dribble]

Or maybe you need a different source?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/israel-hamas-war-egypt-warned-foreign-affairs-gaza

 

[jomar]

I did it twice. Fuck those incapable of going to the CNN web page and not keeping up on their feeds.

It’s not about us folk being incapable of going to sites. It’s about you linking support for your arguments.

Apparently, nobody saw the relevant CNN link since you posted different ones. And now you’re on about axios and other sources.

All I’m saying is if you make a claim based on a source link it so we can decide it’s veracity and comment back.

 

[jomar]

Now...why would Blinken meet with Abbas?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...stinian-leader-mahmoud-abbas-amman-rcna120115

So make your argument instead of posting some “you’re wiser than others” cryptic question.

 

[Dribble]

Or maybe anther source?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047

 

[Dribble]

How many do people need? I realize those supporting the murder of innocent Palestinians that have nothing to do with Hamas will ignore anything I post. You can't fix sick minds.

 

[Dribble]

Here is CNN's live feed for those incapable of clicking on the previous links I provided

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-14-23/index.html

So hard....

 

[jomar]

Here is CNN's live feed for those incapable of clicking on the previous links I provided

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-14-23/index.html

So hard....

Thanks, was that so hard?

Oh wait! Scrolled down and didn’t see the one where you claimed Check out the video on CNN...where Palestinians were evacuating using the path they were instructed...and the IDF attacked them.

Maybe CNN censored it? C’mon man, help us out!

 

[Dribble]

Thanks, was that so hard?

Oh wait! Scrolled down and didn’t see the one where you claimed Check out the video on CNN...where Palestinians were evacuating using the path they were instructed...and the IDF attacked them.

Maybe CNN censored it? C’mon man, help us out!

Same place dude video and all

 

[Dribble]

Front page CNN website right now. Scroll on down. Video for you

 

[jomar]

Same place dude video and all

So link it direct instead of making us search. What are you afraid of?

 

[RobDownSouth]

One suspects the demand that 1.1 million people relocate to a nebulous "southward" in the span of 24 hours is not grounded in reality, but moar of a CYA maneuver. The logistics involved are quite frankly impossible.

 

[jomar]

Front page CNN website right now. Scroll on down. Video for you

https://www.cnn.com/

Man, you’re approaching ignorable because of your dodging.

 

[Dribble]

So link it direct instead of making us search. What are you afraid of?

What are you afraid of? Good question. Go to

https://www.cnn.com/

CNN does not permit linking their videos...I am sure you understand why. The video is right below DeSantis talking about the US not taking refugees from Gaza. The write up...is in the link I supplied 3 times.

 

[Dribble]

https://www.cnn.com/

Man, you’re approaching ignorable because of your dodging.

Then ignore me. It is obvious you support murdering innocent people.

 

[Dribble]

I know...you don't trust CNN. So a quick Google resulted in several other sites

https://www.businessinsider.com/isr...leeing-evacuation-route-northern-gaza-2023-10

 

[Dribble]

Or a different one

https://www.greaterkashmir.com/worl...-evacuation-route-killing-dozens-of-civilians

See people..it isn't hard