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[DeluxAuto]

Welp, considering the fact that I’m being PURPOSEFULLY blind to Israel’s "contributions" to the death and destruction in an attempt to make a point (that the pro-"Palestine" crowd is being WILLFULLY blind to the "contributions" to the death and destruction from "their side"), I would say you’re assessment is lacking.



Side note:

I’m also trying to highlight the stupidity of those in the pro-"Palestine" crowd who "thought" DonOld would be better than President Biden or Vice President Harris when it came to Gaza, etc.

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You're being blind to the murders is exactly why that murderer said that the world doesn't care that they continue the genocide.

 

[Lazaran]

You're being blind to the murders is exactly why that murderer said that the world doesn't care that they continue the genocide.

Your narrative would be moar convincing / persuasive if the pro-"Palestine" crowd had shown even a speck of humanity, outrage, and remorse over Hamas’ genocidal 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.



Bottom line:

The pro- "Palestine" crowd ignored Hamas’ genocidal 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation, but NOW they want the world to be hyper-focused SOLELY on Israel’s undeniably heavy handed response / retaliatory actions (even as Hamas is STILL in power and is STILL holding hostages).



FUCK THAT ^ !!!



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[DeluxAuto]

Israel accused of ethnic cleansing after more than 140 killed in Gaza in 24 hours


Israel says intensified bombings are part of campaign expansion to ‘achieve all of the war goals in Gaza’

 

[Politruk]

Your narrative would be moar convincing / persuasive if the pro-"Palestine" crowd had shown even a speck of humanity, outrage, and remorse over Hamas’ genocidal 10/7 race, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.

This war on civlians is no proportionate response. There is no justification for it at all.

 

[Lazaran]

This war on civlians is no proportionate response. There is no justification for it at all.

Dropping atomic bombs on Japanese "civilians" was not “proportionate” either, but the JUSTIFICATION was “TO WIN THE WAR”.

Israel is NOT obligated to be “proportionate” as it seeks to achieve its WAR / national security goals (especially since HAMAS STARTED THE WAR).

HAMAS escalated things to “WAR level”, and now things will have to run their course… just like in EVERY OTHER WAR.

Hope that ^ helps.



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[RobDownSouth]

Israel publicly denies, privately admits their actions are starving the children in Gaza to death.

The Gaza annihilation was NEVER about the hostages.
The Gaza annihilation was NEVER about the hostages.
10/7 was simply a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Jewish hardline zealots to permanently sabotage any "two state solution".
They saw their opportunity and they took it.
They whined piously about the hostages but it was all an act. "Civilian Project Hannibal" rules of engagement applied.
The Israeli government desecrated the name of God to achieve political goals. I believe that is called "Chillul Hashem". I'm of the opinion that this applies to any Jew who still believes that this ethnic cleansing is in any way, shape, or form sanctioned by God.

 

[Politruk]

Dropping atomic bombs on Japanese "civilians" was not “proportionate” either, but the JUSTIFICATION was “TO WIN THE WAR”.

Israel is NOT obligated to be “proportionate” as it seeks to achieve its WAR / national security goals (especially since HAMAS STARTED THE WAR).

HAMAS escalated things to “WAR level”, and now things will have to run their course… just like in EVERY OTHER WAR.

Hope that ^ helps.



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When your enemies are hiding among a civilian population, you don't attack the civilian population. That's a war crime.

 

[Lazaran]

Israel publicly denies, privately admits their actions are starving the children in Gaza to death.

The Gaza annihilation was NEVER about the hostages.
The Gaza annihilation was NEVER about the hostages.
10/7 was simply a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Jewish hardline zealots to permanently sabotage any "two state solution".
They saw their opportunity and they took it.
They whined piously about the hostages but it was all an act. "Civilian Project Hannibal" rules of engagement applied.
The Israeli government desecrated the name of God to achieve political goals. I believe that is called "Chillul Hashem". I'm of the opinion that this applies to any Jew who still believes that this ethnic cleansing is in any way, shape, or form sanctioned by God.

Making “an appeal to god” now???



Ultimately:

Hamas “had a plan”.

Israel “had a contingency plan”.

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[BrightShinyGirl]

When your enemies are hiding among a civilian population, you don't attack the civilian population. That's a war crime.

Using civilians as humans shields is a war crime.

 

[Politruk]

Using civilians as humans shields is a war crime.

But so is doing anything about it.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Using civilians as humans shields is a war crime.

What about bombing hospitals and supply/emergency vehicles?

You're on the wrong side of history.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What about bombing hospitals and supply/emergency vehicles?

You're on the wrong side of history.

Using hospital as military bases is also a war crime. Israel ands the Jewish people will survive despite all the people who support our genocide.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Using hospital as military bases is also a war crime. Israel ands the Jewish people will survive despite all the people who support our genocide.

No one's committing genocide in your southern California suburb.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No one's committing genocide in your southern California suburb.

About half the Jews in the world live in Israel. Destroying it would be genocide. It's a small state surrounded on all sides by bigger countries, many of whom want to eradicate it and replace it with a Muslim state.

 

[ChloeTzang]

This war on civlians is no proportionate response. There is no justification for it at all.

War is never about proportionate. It's about annihilating and defeating the enemy by any and all means possible.

"proportionate" is a fantasy for losers.

 

[ChloeTzang]

When your enemies are hiding among a civilian population, you don't attack the civilian population. That's a war crime.

Correct. You DO NOT attack civilians. HOWEVER, you are perfectly entitled by the laws of war to target military. If the military hides amngst civilians, they are valid targets and the civuilians are just collateral damage. No war crime has been committed.

The war criminals are those who hide amongst civilians. Civilians are irrelevant. You may choose whether or not to hit the military targets hiding behind human shields, but it's NOT a war crime on the attackers part. And survivors however may be charged as war criminals.

People have all sorts of misconceptions about whats legal and whats not.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Using hospital as military bases is also a war crime. Israel ands the Jewish people will survive despite all the people who support our genocide.

Well then it's a good thing that the IDF bombed every fucking civilian hospital into rubble, right? Right?

One less "war crime" for Hamas to commit. Still plenty of war crimes left for the IDF to commit in Gaza, though. Starting with deliberately starving children as "policy".

 

[Lazaran]

Well then it's a good thing that the IDF bombed every fucking civilian hospital into rubble, right? Right?

One less "war crime" for Hamas to commit. Still plenty of war crimes left for the IDF to commit in Gaza, though. Starting with deliberately starving children as "policy".

I would agree that things are faaaaaaar worse in Gaza NOW.

It appears all those Arab / Muslim Americans and their left wing allies who helped get DonOld elected reeeeeaaally fucked up…

As a consolation prize, things are faaaaaar worse in America as well…



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[BrightShinyGirl]

I would agree that things are faaaaaaar worse in Gaza NOW.

It appears all those Arab / Muslim Americans and their left wing allies who helped get DonOld elected reeeeeaaally fucked up…

As a consolation prize, things are faaaaaar worse in America as well…



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There’s a report in the Wall Street Journal today providing evidence that Hamas launched the October 7th pogrom to torpedo a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

 

[Politruk]

There’s a report in the Wall Street Journal today providing evidence that Hamas launched the October 7th pogrom to torpedo a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

What would be the point of that? Israel and SA have never fought a war.

 

[Lazaran]

There’s a report in the Wall Street Journal today providing evidence that Hamas launched the October 7th pogrom to torpedo a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

I would also submit that Russia (and China?) played a role in the timing and scale of the genocidal attack.

Keeping the U.S. military, etc, occupied with / in the Middle East GREATLY benefited / benefits Putin / Russia (and China).



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[BrightShinyGirl]

What would be the point of that? Israel and SA have never fought a war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Israeli_normalization

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Pogrom survivor Yuval Raphael got second place at Eurovision with her song "New Day Will Rise". The Israeli entry won first place with the fan vote, but only placed second with the official judges.

 

[Politruk]

Is there any faction in Israel that wants to end this war?

What about the Democrats?

 

[Politruk]

Why Doesn’t International Law Apply to the West?