Cloning, yes or no?

[JazzManJim]

My belief is that human life begins when conciousness forms.. which TECHNICALLY doesn't happen until age two or so... but since THAT can't happen... I think the acceptable limit would be at the end of the first trimester... the fetus is little more then a slug at that point anyway.

Besides... people who want abortions will have abortions. Rowe vs. Wade established that, and all I'm saying is why can't we use THOSE stem cells? I'm not asking for farming of fetuses or anything

Wait. Why can't that happen? Why can't we just draw the line to say that humanity begins when the being is capable of self-sufficiency for food and shelter and such? Let's go ahead and make that age 4 years old then, right?

No, of course we can't do that. Why then is it acceptable to draw another arbitrary line? I'm saying that we draw no arbitrary lines. We've proven that we're not nearly wise enough to do so already.

And I know you're not asking for fetus farming, but I guarantee you that such a thing will happen. It already does in a limited form with in vitro fertilization with several eggs harvested, fertilized, and implanted. It's not a long step to fetus farms - just a month or so of time for the fetus.

I believe that there has been some looking into using aborted fetuses for research. But that opens up yet another huge can of worms and I"m sure you can follow that line of thought yourself.

 

[Rambrat]

yes...I would like to clone me...

 

[perks]

yes...I would like to clone me...

I want you to clone yourself too. I need some organ.

 

[Rambrat]

I want you to clone yourself too. I need some organ.

Well...you can use a heart...

 

[curious2c]

I belong to a group...Test Monkeys For Human Cloning.

Yep.

We believe that human cloning should be allowed. Then you humans will be able to test your drugs and proceedures on humans instead of us test monkeys.

Test Monkeys are nice monkeys. k

Test monkeys rule.

yep


can you see my tongue in cheek here?

 

[perks]

Well...you can use a heart...

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

*sobbing*




and curious, I agree. Save the monkeys, fuck the clones.

 

[Rambrat]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

*sobbing*




and curious, I agree. Save the monkeys, fuck the clones.

awwwww...

~hug~

let's use child molesters and rapists as test subjects!

We need to save the monkeys....Mmmmm...chilled monkey brains...

 

[curious2c]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

*sobbing*




and curious, I agree. Save the monkeys, fuck the clones.

I'm not going to do it...no I am not...I...uh...well...geez it is so hard to not go there...allright damnit...


I'm a clone, are you going to fuck me? heh heh


as you can see, my resolve is weak today. sorry Perky

 

[bluemuse]

Dear God.......you would have child molesters and rapists cloned, Ram? For shame....

 

[perks]

chilmolesters

someone fucked an icecube again!


and curious, I have that effect on people, it's ok.

 

[Rambrat]

Dear God.......you would have child molesters and rapists cloned, Ram? For shame....

No No...to test products...instead of monkey's!!!

how could you think that?!!!

 

[Rambrat]

someone fucked an icecube again!


and curious, I have that effect on people, it's ok.

Damn PC...pop ups while I'm typing...


and it would be icecubes...plural...