Classified reports have ‘damning evidence’ of Trump campaign’s coordination with Russ

[Conager]

The uranium one deal? Wasn't President Obama grilled over the coals for that? How could the Republican-controlled Congress let him get away with it?

What is the uranium one deal, anyways?

The Uranium One deal is yet another piece of real news that you would be completely unaware of because you only read people you agree with.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The uranium one deal? Wasn't President Obama grilled over the coals for that? How could the Republican-controlled Congress let him get away with it?

What is the uranium one deal, anyways?

This.

In June 2009, the Russian uranium mining company ARMZ Uranium Holding Co. (ARMZ), a part of Rosatom, acquired 16.6% of shares in Uranium One in exchange for a 50% interest in the Karatau uranium mining project, a joint venture with Kazatomprom.[10] In June 2010, Uranium One acquired 50% and 49% respective interests in southern Kazakhstan-based Akbastau and Zarechnoye uranium mines from ARMZ. In exchange, ARMZ increased its stake in Uranium One to 51%. The acquisition resulted in a 60% annual production increase at Uranium One, from approximately 10 million to 16 million lb.[11][12] The deal was subject to anti-trust and other conditions and was not finalized until the companies received Kazakh regulatory approvals, approval under Canadian investment law, clearance by the US Committee on Foreign Investments, and approvals from both the Toronto and Johannesburg stock exchanges. The deal was finalized by the end of 2010.[12] Uranium One paid its minority shareholders a significant dividend of 1.06 United States Dollars at the end of 2010.

ARMZ took complete control of Uranium One in January 2013[2] in a transaction which was reviewed by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.[7] In December 2013 an internal reorganization of Rosatom extinguished the interest of ARMZ making Uranium One a direct subsidiary of Rosatom.[3]

 

[KingOrfeo]

Gee, that hardly seems like a sporting way to treat someone with whom you are "colluding."

Sporting, no. Predictable, yes. They wanted a POTUS on whom they would have something.

 

[Rightguide]

The only provable collusion between an American President and the Russians. Obama promised he'd have "more flexibility" to unilaterally disarm our nuclear force after the election without asking for any reciprocity from the Russians. He also surrendered turned Syrian airspace over to the Russians. He looked the other way when the Russians seized the Crimea and threatened the Ukraine.

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[Boxlicker101]

As for the Uranium deal, it happened on Hillary's watch as Sec. of State, and she accepted a huge bribe from the parties involved. It wasn't called a bribe, of course, but it was a large donation to her from people who almost certainly would not have otherwise been so generous.

Congress had no say in the matter. In dealings with other nations, Obama was basically ruling by fiat, contrary to the Constitution, and getting away with it. The giveaway to Iran was another example.

 

[phrodeau]

As for the Uranium deal, it happened on Hillary's watch as Sec. of State, and she accepted a huge bribe from the parties involved. It wasn't called a bribe, of course, but it was a large donation to her from people who almost certainly would not have otherwise been so generous.

Congress had no say in the matter. In dealings with other nations, Obama was basically ruling by fiat, contrary to the Constitution, and getting away with it. The giveaway to Iran was another example.

Almost, you say. So you aren't positive, and Congress decided to keep quiet about it, even while they were grilling Hillary Clinton on Benghazi over a dozen times; it never came up. Amazing.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Sporting, no. Predictable, yes. They wanted a POTUS on whom they would have something.

This is precisely why I stand slack jawed at your abject stupidity.

It doesn't for one moment occur to you that Moscow would not need to be "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump if Donald Trump was already colluding with Moscow to violate the campaign laws of the United States by hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

That fact alone would be more than sufficient to hold him hostage to their bidding.

And it just goes sailing over your head as unobtrusively as the International Space Station.

What is wrong with you? Seriously?

 

[phrodeau]

This is precisely why I stand slack jawed at your abject stupidity.

It doesn't for one moment occur to you that Moscow would not need to be "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump if Donald Trump was already colluding with Moscow to violate the campaign laws of the United States by hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

That fact alone would be more than sufficient to hold him hostage to their bidding.

And it just goes sailing over your head as unobtrusively as the International Space Station.

What is wrong with you? Seriously?

If the FBI can't nail down evidence of collusion, what makes you think the KGB can?

 

[Rightguide]

e Station.

What is wrong with you? Seriously?

Steel reinforced concrete partisanship.

 

[Conager]

This is precisely why I stand slack jawed at your abject stupidity.

It doesn't for one moment occur to you that Moscow would not need to be "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump if Donald Trump was already colluding with Moscow to violate the campaign laws of the United States by hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

That fact alone would be more than sufficient to hold him hostage to their bidding.

And it just goes sailing over your head as unobtrusively as the International Space Station.

What is wrong with you? Seriously?

What's wrong with him is what's wrong with the vast majority of progressives.

In order to believe in progressive ideology you have to adopt several conflicting positions that make no logical sense. Thet have to be deficient in logic to believe as they do and dose of innumeracy helps as well.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

If the FBI can't nail down evidence of collusion, what makes you think the KGB can?

Because, if Moscow was "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump for the express purpose of using that information to extort him to do Moscow's will, there is every reason to think that the KGB would be directly involved.

And if Trump was "colluding" with Russia, Russia would.........uhhhh........KNOW ABOUT IT, don'tcha think??? And there would be no reason for Putin to conceal that information FROM the KGB since the KGB would almost certainly be INSTRUMENTAL in affecting the very relationship RUSSIA was attempting to nurture and exploit.

Congratulations on zooming by KO to take the lead in the autistic division of the Special Olympics marathon.

 

[perturbed]

Congressman: Classified reports have ‘damning evidence’ of Trump campaign’s coordination with Russia.

If true

How come NOTHING was ever leaked

 

[Rightguide]

Congressman: Classified reports have ‘damning evidence’ of Trump campaign’s coordination with Russia.

If true

How come NOTHING was ever leaked

Most likely the Congressman is a lying Democrat.

 

[Conager]

So it's just a coincidence that we get this leak right after he returns from a successful Foreign Tour. This leak is beyond preposterous.

When you have cultivated a source basic tradecraft is it is held on a need-to-know basis you certainly do not brag about it over open phone lines that you know are being listened in on.

if there was absolutely anything to this and if the Russians truly believed they had the inside track into the Trump Administration they sure as hell would not be broadcasting and it anyone who developed such a source will be using all manner of secretive hand-to-hand to communicate this back.

 

[phrodeau]

Because, if Moscow was "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump for the express purpose of using that information to extort him to do Moscow's will, there is every reason to think that the KGB would be directly involved.

And if Trump was "colluding" with Russia, Russia would.........uhhhh........KNOW ABOUT IT, don'tcha think??? And there would be no reason for Putin to conceal that information FROM the KGB since the KGB would almost certainly be INSTRUMENTAL in affecting the very relationship RUSSIA was attempting to nurture and exploit.

Congratulations on zooming by KO to take the lead in the autistic division of the Special Olympics marathon.

You think that the concept of plausible deniability means nothing to Russia's leaders?

 

[Conager]

You think that the concept of plausible deniability means nothing to Russia's leaders?

So double-secret probation then?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Almost, you say. So you aren't positive, and Congress decided to keep quiet about it, even while they were grilling Hillary Clinton on Benghazi over a dozen times; it never came up. Amazing.

Benghazi happened a couple of years later and the two were not related, except for Hillary being involved in both.

Here is an article from the NYT with more detail: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

 

[Boxlicker101]

Congressman: Classified reports have ‘damning evidence’ of Trump campaign’s coordination with Russia.

If true

How come NOTHING was ever leaked

Is that congressman "Joe McCarthy" Schiff?

ETA: Yean, here it is now: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/co...-of-trump-campaigns-coordination-with-russia/

Woodntcha know it's "Raw Story" or somebody like that?

 

[Conager]

. . . and then you get to the real puzzler-

Why would the Russians be looking for and talking about getting derogatory information in the incoming administration IF THE WERE ALREADY COLLUDING WITH THEM.

This latest "leak" is either the media and or the intelligence committee admitting that there is absolutely nothing to the Russian collusion story so they're shifting gears.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

You think that the concept of plausible deniability means nothing to Russia's leaders?

Not internally with regard to a foreign target they were trying to compromise, nimwit.

Besides which "plausible deniability" has not one damn thing to do with the ABILITY (or lack thereof) of the KGB to "nail down evidence of collusion" as compared to the FBI, which is the prospect you raised with your earlier post.

Two different skill sets and/or motivations at issue.

As usual, time to decide which theory you wish to commit to: conspiracy or incompetence? One or the other, but not both.

 

[Boxlicker101]

. . . and then you get to the real puzzler-

Why would the Russians be looking for and talking about getting derogatory information in the incoming administration IF THE WERE ALREADY COLLUDING WITH THEM.

This latest "leak" is either the media and or the intelligence committee admitting that there is absolutely nothing to the Russian collusion story so they're shifting gears.

Your mistake is expecting leftists to use logic. They don't for much else; why would they be using it here?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

. . . and then you get to the real puzzler-

Why would the Russians be looking for and talking about getting derogatory information in the incoming administration IF THE WERE ALREADY COLLUDING WITH THEM.

This latest "leak" is either the media and or the intelligence committee admitting that there is absolutely nothing to the Russian collusion story so they're shifting gears.

Yeah, exactly what I said an hour ago.

 

[KingOrfeo]

This is precisely why I stand slack jawed at your abject stupidity.

It doesn't for one moment occur to you that Moscow would not need to be "on the prowl for compromising information" on Donald Trump if Donald Trump was already colluding with Moscow to violate the campaign laws of the United States by hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

That fact alone would be more than sufficient to hold him hostage to their bidding.

That might not implicate Trump personally, if their only communication was with his campaign team. At any rate, from the Russians' POV it's always better to have more dirt on him, ideally something involving his business dealings with Russian mobsters, which information the government would not necessarily have without looking for it.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Yeah, exactly what I said an hour ago.

Your mistake is expecting leftists to use logic. They don't for much else; why would they be using it here?

. . . and then you get to the real puzzler-

Why would the Russians be looking for and talking about getting derogatory information in the incoming administration IF THE WERE ALREADY COLLUDING WITH THEM.

This latest "leak" is either the media and or the intelligence committee admitting that there is absolutely nothing to the Russian collusion story so they're shifting gears.

You rather naively treat the Administration as if it were a singular thing. It is comprised of many people all with pasts, agendas, different levels of vulnerability and proximity to the policies and Trump.

At any one time there were those being pressured and compromised (Manifort, Page), being used unwittingly like a meat puppet (Trump-in-Chief), those colluding (Kuchner and Flynn), those guilelessly unaware of what was happening (Spicer, Sexy Trump), those aware of what was happening but staying silent (Priebus, Conway, Bannon) and any mix of all of the above as Russian Intelligence sought to get leverage.

Not such a difficult thing to understand and apply to these events.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Congress had no say in the matter. In dealings with other nations, Obama was basically ruling by fiat, contrary to the Constitution, and getting away with it. The giveaway to Iran was another example.

He assumed no more autonomy in foreign policy than any other POTUS. Nothing he did went beyond his constitutional authority.