Circumcision

[Sunshine]

And yet we live in an age when pubic hair, which is completely natural, is routinely removed just because its the fad to do so. I think that's kind of hypocritical from a societal standpoint.

Pubic hair is removed by adults who can choose to do so. A baby has no say in its body being mutilated.

Hair removal is usually temporary and does not impact the functioning of the body. Men who are uncut have greater sexual sensation. That's pretty much undisputed.

 

[renard_ruse]

The post-modern freakshow characters: woman- body covered with ugly vandalism (tattoos), fake boobs, and complete removal of pubic hair. Man- head covered with stupid knit cap even on 90 degree summer days, body covered with ugly vandalism (tattoos), pants hanging down off butt, penis with funny looking blob of skin hanging off end of it. Characters appearing in a shopping mall or WalMart near you.

 

[Queersetti]

Renard has been upset about this issue ever since the sixth grade, when his teacher told him Magellan circumsized the earth.

 

[Sunshine]

Do you have sons? Could you take a knife to a helpless little baby for absolutely NO GOOD reason? It is unfathomable to me. I get queazy thinking of it.

 

[pointless]

oh and i'm cut. why? no idea. i don't really care, either.

 

[StrangeLife]

A baby has no say in its body being mutilated.

For me this is the core issue.

Regardless of what one may feel about circumcision it is a form of "mutilation" or at the very least "unnecessary surgery" with irrevocable consequences for the kid. In my opinion we have no right to do that to a baby who can't resist or give consent. Once the kid turns 18 he can get it done himself if it's important to him, but you don't cut stuff off babies. It's just... wrong!

 

[Sunshine]

For me this is the core issue.

Regardless of what one may feel about circumcision it is a form of "mutilation" or at the very least "unnecessary surgery" with irrevocable consequences for the kid. In my opinion we have no right to do that to a baby who can't resist or give consent. Once the kid turns 18 he can get it done himself if it's important to him, but you don't cut stuff off babies. It's just... wrong!

Exactly.

 

[Sunshine]

My son got an infection from his. It was then that I decided if I had another one that I would not do it to him.

Interesting, because the only reason given to us why we should consider circumcision is due to a slight reduction in urinary tract infections birth to one year. No one at the hospital said, your child may get an Infection from the circumcision procedure.

Sorry that happened to your child.

 

[Sunshine]

foreskins are hot.
and they feel good.
it's like perm-lube.

Can't say I've had the pleasure of encountering an "intact" man. America has its flaws.

 

[pete]

i am, and i had my son cut. he cried a little, but not much.

if it had gone wrong i might feel differently about it, but it really wasn't a big deal.

 

[StrangeLife]

i am, and i had my son cut. he cried a little, but not much.

I had a... well.... "loud difference of opinion" with the rest of my family about the issue, but this was non-negotiable as far as I was concerned.

Consequently, today my son is part of the expanding pool of American guys with intact penises. Better get used to them ladies - they're the future

 

[warrior queen]

For me this is the core issue.

Regardless of what one may feel about circumcision it is a form of "mutilation" or at the very least "unnecessary surgery" with irrevocable consequences for the kid. In my opinion we have no right to do that to a baby who can't resist or give consent. Once the kid turns 18 he can get it done himself if it's important to him, but you don't cut stuff off babies. It's just... wrong!

Ok.... now I'll give the other side....
I have two sons - one is circumcised, the othrr is not.
My first son had an issue with his foreskin. The hole wasn't large enough for him to urinate - it kept 'ballooning'. The surgeon tried various procedures to correct this, but it kept healing back to just a tiny opening, causing a 'back-pressure to his bladder that was beginning to affect the muscle structure of his urethera. I can still hear him crying from the pain. Eventually, I agreed that a full circumcision was the only option.
My second son did not have the same problem and so was not cut.

Before going nuts at parents who agree to have this done to their baby boys, it pays to find out why.

 

[Pairaclities]

Speaking as an owner (of foreskin) and proudly so for more than 50 years, I can say that I have never had a problem with having the skin. In fact it feels maaahvelous to have a lady gently and slowly pull it back and start licking. And the dual action of skin in the pussy is a great feeling.
Growing up my 1 year younger brother was cut. He was always disappointed even as a child that he didn't have "the cover".

Cleanliness is not an issue for me, I know how to ensure the penis is always fresh.
I would never consider the surgery of circumcision for my children. Or any others were it my choice.

 

[Pairaclities]

*fap*

You are not back from that fap yet Dolph?

 

[StrangeLife]

Before going nuts at parents who agree to have this done to their baby boys, it pays to find out why.

You are talking about a specific medical issue - phimosis - which is not the norm and in most cases easily treatable with a procedure less drastic than a complete circumcision.

For most parents the "why" has to do with customs and religion, and those are not valid reasons for frivolously cutting stuff of kids in the 21st century. I'm not going nuts at anybody - I realize that cultural patterns are hard to break - but I honestly believe it should be outlawed on a federal level...

 

[pointless]

man, whatever happened to bitchslapper? this was his jam, man.

 

[Sunshine]

Ok.... now I'll give the other side....
I have two sons - one is circumcised, the othrr is not.
My first son had an issue with his foreskin. The hole wasn't large enough for him to urinate - it kept 'ballooning'. The surgeon tried various procedures to correct this, but it kept healing back to just a tiny opening, causing a 'back-pressure to his bladder that was beginning to affect the muscle structure of his urethera. I can still hear him crying from the pain. Eventually, I agreed that a full circumcision was the only option.
My second son did not have the same problem and so was not cut.

Before going nuts at parents who agree to have this done to their baby boys, it pays to find out why.

You went ahead with circumcision for a very good and medically necessary reason. I would have done the same thing.

 

[pete]

You are talking about a specific medical issue - phimosis - which is not the norm and in most cases easily treatable with a procedure less drastic than a complete circumcision.

For most parents the "why" has to do with customs and religion, and those are not valid reasons for frivolously cutting stuff of kids in the 21st century. I'm not going nuts at anybody - I realize that cultural patterns are hard to break - but I honestly believe it should be outlawed on a federal level...

you seem a little overzealous, bro.

what are the injury stats of this procedure versus, say, ear piercing?

 

[warrior queen]

You are talking about a specific medical issue - phimosis - which is not the norm and in most cases easily treatable with a procedure less drastic than a complete circumcision.

For most parents the "why" has to do with customs and religion, and those are not valid reasons for frivolously cutting stuff of kids in the 21st century. I'm not going nuts at anybody - I realize that cultural patterns are hard to break - but I honestly believe it should be outlawed on a federal level...

You absolutely cannot stop this happening for cultural/religious reasons, no matter how much anyone tries.
FGM has been illegal in many countries for a very long time.... yet it still happens.
Just this week we have yet anither father being prosecuted in Australia's court system for allowing it to be done to his daughter.

Far better, imo, to make it a safe procedure.

 

[Sunshine]

You are talking about a specific medical issue - phimosis - which is not the norm and in most cases easily treatable with a procedure less drastic than a complete circumcision.

For most parents the "why" has to do with customs and religion, and those are not valid reasons for frivolously cutting stuff of kids in the 21st century. I'm not going nuts at anybody - I realize that cultural patterns are hard to break - but I honestly believe it should be outlawed on a federal level...

It's no different than the ritual of " female circumcision" in Africa. Girls are not given a choice and the clitorus is cut out. Why? It's mutilation.

 

[warrior queen]

you seem a little overzealous, bro.

what are the injury stats of this procedure versus, say, ear piercing?

OMG! Dn't get me started on unsafe piercings!
I was a body-piercer for many years..... and I can tell you some horrific stories about infected piercings!

 

[Sunshine]

You are talking about a specific medical issue - phimosis - which is not the norm and in most cases easily treatable with a procedure less drastic than a complete circumcision.

For most parents the "why" has to do with customs and religion, and those are not valid reasons for frivolously cutting stuff of kids in the 21st century. I'm not going nuts at anybody - I realize that cultural patterns are hard to break - but I honestly believe it should be outlawed on a federal level...

i am, and i had my son cut. he cried a little, but not much.

if it had gone wrong i might feel differently about it, but it really wasn't a big deal.

I think most people who are not Jewish probably circumcise because they think it will be strange for their child to look different than they do, or perhaps they believe cut is " normal" and uncut is "abnormal".

My husband asked his mother why she had him circumcised. Her answer was, " because that's what everybody did." She gave the same reasoning for bottle feeding and not breast feeding. My husband decided long before he had kids that there was no reason to circumcise. It wasn't a second thought for him. I was really happy about that because it never made sense to me why people did it to begin with!

 

[JohnnySavage]

Advice: Never eat the calamari at a Mohel's house.

 

[Queersetti]

man, whatever happened to bitchslapper? this was his jam, man.

I guess he slapped one bitch too many.

 

[pointless]

impossible.