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Netzach said:
Dude, no no no. He's a journalist, author of "War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning" covered Bosnia, El Salvador, Iraq prior to the war and almost got executed there - he's definitely not that.
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Oh sorry. That other guy is a fun read though, even though he's a big asshole.
 
intothewoods said:
I can sort of relate. It's like my yoga example. I don't want to find a new something or other and make it my religion. I feel like that about the tantric sex people. It's like, man, can we get back to some fun fucking or what? If we're going to spend all our time making this like temple, I'll just go to temple. And when people bash religion but then spend all their time recreating it unconsciously(no one around here, just speaking generally), it annoys the crap out of me.

I would classify myself as an agnostic cultural Jew, for the record, in case that matters. There is also less Jewish institutional stuff to deal with, in the sense that there isn't a Pope or one bureacuracy. A lot of the rituals that are really important to me are home-based and not dependent on being in synagogue or dealing with a committee of any sort.
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I don't do well any time the SM community does anything that's like "and now we're going to be sacred/spiritual/do ritual" it feels just as contrived as temple did for me.

Do you think that you're into the domestic aspect because that's the leftovers we get as Jewish women? I know there's a lot of apologist revisionist material on how they're not leftovers, it's SUCH an important role, but I was never fully convinced. Then again I was forced to go to conservative temple.
 
intothewoods said:
This cracks me up to no end. Once a year I get a craving for gefilte, even in the slime. With horseradish. Mmmmm. Just once a year though!

Otherwise I think Jewish food is awful. Duh, that's why we eat Chinese food! Mister Man loves knishes. I sometimes get a hankering for herring.

Otherwise my idea of Jewish food is the following: lox, cream cheese, thinly sliced red onion, thinly sliced tomatoes and capers on a toasted everything or onion bagel with good coffee and the NY Times. Mmmmmmm. Heaven. Damn it. Now I'm hungry. Maybe this weekend....
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Man, I actually really like jew food. Except for organ meats. And matzo brye.

When I was a kid if my mother was exhausted from work and too tired to make dinner when she got home, we would pull the jar of gefilte fish from the fridge and just eat that. Perfectly good dinner as far as I'm concerned. I'm a little tempted to buy some for my fridge here at school, but I don't want to gross out my suite mates.

Oh man when I was home for spring break I got a knish from Yoneh Shimmels on Housten and it was heaven. They've had the best knishes in NY for 100 years and probably will for another 100 years. Unless they go the way of the 2nd Ave. Deli, which would be a real shame.

I'm pissed that I didn't check out the newly reopened 2nd Ave. Deli when I was home, and I can't wait to! Supposedly its pretty much exactly the same, only not on 2nd Ave anymore, and now they have a liquor license :D
 
Although I'm not really happy with Betticus' little sign.. I have enough cynicism to realize that (in my tortured mind) that most religious convictions are merely for the preservation of the species..

And I think Marx was on to something as well..

Having said the above - I still go to Mass.
 
Netzach said:
I don't do well any time the SM community does anything that's like "and now we're going to be sacred/spiritual/do ritual" it feels just as contrived as temple did for me.

Do you think that you're into the domestic aspect because that's the leftovers we get as Jewish women? I know there's a lot of apologist revisionist material on how they're not leftovers, it's SUCH an important role, but I was never fully convinced. Then again I was forced to go to conservative temple.
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I grew up going to a really unique temple. Funny, I was just talking about this with someone who asked me what I was looking for in a Jewish community. I grew up in a university town with one temple. It was reform, but had to satisfy more observant folks, so often had a lot of traditional stuff mixed in with let's celebrate the pomegranite rosh chodesh stuff. It certainly wasn't perfect - my parents raised holy hell the year they did preferred seating for certain members who'd made big donations - but it was a nice mix of traditional, reform and reconstruction. I never felt like I was less than because I was a girl, and I think that was supported by the town we were in and my family.

After I left home and experienced the rest of Judaism, I encountered the apologist stuff you're referring to. I never liked it either. And it's always a fine line because I feel there's an importance in learning the traditions, but I don't really want to hang out in the girls' section of an orthodox shul. I guess you're right in part. I'm experiencing the leftovers because I haven't found that place that's the right mix. I had sort of been operating on the assumption that I'd find it eventually, but it still hasn't happened where I live now. This same person I was talking to recently was telling me about local havurot - these Jewish communities that aren't connected to a synagogue. It would definitely involve meetings and bagels, but less bureaucracy than a brick and mortar synagogue.
 
of the many, many friends of mine who went to Catholic school not a single one of them is still religious. Most of them are still spiritual in some way or another, but they all agree that the church is hogwash.

My boyfriend makes fun of me for being a jew, and I make fun of him for being catholic. Its practically foreplay. I mean, we all know what Jewish girl are best at, eh? eh?
 
00Syd said:
Man, I actually really like jew food. Except for organ meats. And matzo brye.

When I was a kid if my mother was exhausted from work and too tired to make dinner when she got home, we would pull the jar of gefilte fish from the fridge and just eat that. Perfectly good dinner as far as I'm concerned. I'm a little tempted to buy some for my fridge here at school, but I don't want to gross out my suite mates.

Oh man when I was home for spring break I got a knish from Yoneh Shimmels on Housten and it was heaven. They've had the best knishes in NY for 100 years and probably will for another 100 years. Unless they go the way of the 2nd Ave. Deli, which would be a real shame.

I'm pissed that I didn't check out the newly reopened 2nd Ave. Deli when I was home, and I can't wait to! Supposedly its pretty much exactly the same, only not on 2nd Ave anymore, and now they have a liquor license :D
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I'm really a Northern Californian when it comes to food. We didn't eat brisket for Passover. I've had some briskets that I like, but oh my god that stuff is heavy. It's really a big divider between me and my east coast peeps. I just don't know how to cook with that much chicken fat.

And I love matzoh brei! I'm like the only one, I swear.
 
00Syd said:
of the many, many friends of mine who went to Catholic school not a single one of them is still religious. Most of them are still spiritual in some way or another, but they all agree that the church is hogwash.

My boyfriend makes fun of me for being a jew, and I make fun of him for being catholic. Its practically foreplay. I mean, we all know what Jewish girl are best at, eh? eh?
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What do Jewish girls give best in bed?

Directions.

:devil:
 
intothewoods said:
I'm really a Northern Californian when it comes to food. We didn't eat brisket for Passover. I've had some briskets that I like, but oh my god that stuff is heavy. It's really a big divider between me and my east coast peeps. I just don't know how to cook with that much chicken fat.

And I love matzoh brei! I'm like the only one, I swear.
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Haha, I don't know how to cook with that much chicken fat either, but it doesn't stop me from eating it when other people cook! Damn, no brisket for passover? You were missing out big time. Brisket is amazing.

Your not the only one, its you and my mother :p
 
00Syd said:
Haha, I don't know how to cook with that much chicken fat either, but it doesn't stop me from eating it when other people cook! Damn, no brisket for passover? You were missing out big time. Brisket is amazing.

Your not the only one, its you and my mother :p
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I've had a few briskets that were amazing, otherwise they seem dry and heavy to me. And it's not just that - I cannot have a meal that is brisket, heavy knishes, heavy kugel and a side of choroses. I need green vegetables! And iceberg lettuce doesn't count. Don't get the inner NorCal hippie girl started.
 
I just heard a good Jewish Joke:

Why do Jewish men like their wives to wear golden diaphragms?


Because they love coming into money!


Hyuk hyuk hyuk!!
 
00Syd said:
Oh, haha, I thought you were telling a joke.

Well, supposedly Jewish girls give the best head.

And when you think about it, there is some small logic to that ;)
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I thought you guys weren't supposed to eat pork. :confused:
 
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