Christian writers and readers meet here!

[RuzieD]

I am an atheist (and apologies for intruding here!) but one of my most inventive smut-writing partners was & is an active, practicing Christian.

Huh,

I got to find more people who are Christians but like writing and reading erotica. It's a big bummer when I can't share my work with some of my friends for college (attended a Christian university)

 

[Cinner]

I have to confess that this has been an issue for me. I regard myself as being not only a practicing Christian, but a FERVENT one at that, and I find myself writing porn... and getting better at it with each passing day. I have tried to write other things but I can't find the enthusiasm or the words. (Sigh)

I would enjoy speaking with anyone who wishes to chat about this. My contact details are in my profile.

(((BIG HUG)))

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I'm sure God finds it amusing. Humor is, after all, a divine characteristic. Evil has no sense of humor whatever.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Well, Cinner, this is probably the number one reason I write this stuff... Today, writing - well, let's say stories and movies and entertainment generally, have all pushed the 'scandalous/shocking' button so much that almost everything 'normal' is passe.

However, I personally find almost all the envelope-pushing modern storylines and delivery banal and by now totally lacking in genuine adult and genuinely worldly edge - oh yes, it all tries to make a lot of being in-your-face and so-o-o- 'liberated' sexually. But I find it all schoolboy/girl level sex.

Every 'shocking' story to do with crime/horror/political corruption/spying/suspense has used up the novelty of 'shock' for me, virtually completely.

But to some extent, despite today's self-importance about 'honesty,' 'liberation,' 'secular values,' and 'realism,' there is something false and vaguely scared and naiive when it comes to the inclusion of adult themes - particularly when it comes to the erotic.

The only way a story has any potential of being interesting to me now, is if it is prepared to deal with sex properly - that is, absent of all the banal Hollywood tropes and all the special interest propaganda.

The only stories I am interested in writing anymore are erotic stories, because this is one area I feel can be brought back to human reality, and yet, because human reality IS so genuinely interesting, has the promise of being novel and entertaining - and surprising. There are no surprises left in the Transformer/CGI/comic-book Hollywood genres.

 

[Cinner]

Thanks for responding. I'll have to think about what you've said since I do not think that I hold any kind of philosophy about my writing. I have tried to make some of my stories explore serious questions about human sexuality, and the consequences attached to our choices. Needless to say, these stories have not done well on Lit.

I have tried to take the advice of the readers and relax into my stories. I have not succeeded in this at all! I know that I come here in order to think, and to get away from the realities of my life. I suspect that I have suspend my true feelings too efficiently when I'm here since the nature of escapism is that one doesn't have to deal with the realities. I wonder if this might be the reason that I seem not to find the energy to write about other things like my guiding philosophy, my politics, my values. Perhaps in doing that I will unleash a torrent that will overwhelm me. My sexuality, on the other hand, only puzzles me.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

I know what you mean of course, re escapism - but I have moved personally towards a slightly different view of it.

Liberation is often a religious theme and presumes some sort of bondage. Escapism is a pejorative word but it is a closely related idea.

'Escapism' is a thought procedure which uses up little mechanical energy and yet offers the possibility of an as-yet or hitherto unseen solution or configuration of things in real life. Yes it's hypothetical. But no of course it isn't without value.

'Possibility of solution' provides a massive amount of psychological energy.

Just one single really good idea is 'all it takes' to begin to drive change and solutions in external reality. Escapism, when employed thoughfully, is a very powerful intellectual tool.

The world is in very great need of one single really good - and possibly new - idea, right now!

 

[English Lady]

Dearest English Lady,

Curl *waves* back!

It's a pleasure to hear from you!

Are things going okay?

- curl

Things are going great! Hosted my first event this past weekend, Smut by the Sea, and it went fabulously well.

Thank-you, EL.

It's been an emotional time for me. Sending her off on the bus to Detroit was harder than leaving my eldest at her college dorm, her freshman year.

I was able to receive a couple texts from my daughter and I have tracked all three of her plane rides and as long as all went well with customs, she should be at her destination along with everyone else.

I may not hear from her for a couple of days, due to internet connections in the village are "iffy".

Again, thank-you for the prayers, the thread, and you're very welcome for the post.

~ Red

You're welcome, love. This thread is a constant blessing even if I don't check on it often enough!

I am an atheist (and apologies for intruding here!) but one of my most inventive smut-writing partners was & is an active, practicing Christian.

You're perfectly welcome here, as long as folk are respectable, this thread is open for all.

Huh,

I got to find more people who are Christians but like writing and reading erotica. It's a big bummer when I can't share my work with some of my friends for college (attended a Christian university)

It's difficult, but there are more of us than you might at first think!

 

[English Lady]

I'm sure God finds it amusing. Humor is, after all, a divine characteristic. Evil has no sense of humor whatever.

Oh, very true, I'm sure God has a grand sense of humour.

Thanks for responding. I'll have to think about what you've said since I do not think that I hold any kind of philosophy about my writing. I have tried to make some of my stories explore serious questions about human sexuality, and the consequences attached to our choices. Needless to say, these stories have not done well on Lit.

I have tried to take the advice of the readers and relax into my stories. I have not succeeded in this at all! I know that I come here in order to think, and to get away from the realities of my life. I suspect that I have suspend my true feelings too efficiently when I'm here since the nature of escapism is that one doesn't have to deal with the realities. I wonder if this might be the reason that I seem not to find the energy to write about other things like my guiding philosophy, my politics, my values. Perhaps in doing that I will unleash a torrent that will overwhelm me. My sexuality, on the other hand, only puzzles me.

I write because I enjoy writing. I write about love, fun and sex and so far I've heard nowt from God telling me I'm wrong.

For example, I just organised an erotica event (second mention in 2 posts I know, bear with me) which had many, many opportunities to fail...but it didn't. I prayed about it, I had a hugely exciting and fun day AND I got to talk to a couple about my faith and help them with the whole erotica/faith battle thing (which I'm more and more convinced is a manmade thing) and it was a great blessing.

I honestly think that if you pray about everything and truly listen for GOD's response (not the church's) then you can't go wrong and even if you do, you'll be forgiven. I've yet to recieve a cease and desist order. I'm going from strength to erotic strength.

 

[Noira]

Brilliant. I feel I've been called to reach out to those of us that feel we don't fit in at 'regular' church. I'm sure these geoups will be a great blessing.

While I'm not a thread regular here, I'd like to chip in a comment.

I had a rather curious revelation today over Twitter. That is, and I quote, "When two or more are gathered together." Twitter can be prayer. Facebook can be prayer. A forum here can be our church when we feel alone in a regular church.

I hope perhaps that can help someone as it did me.

As a pansexual kinkster, I tend to run into people who then recoil from the fact that I'm religious, and it makes me often sad that there are so many cooks spoiling the broth. There's definitely a place for LGBT Christians, and erotic writing Christians, and kinky Christians in the church.

While I wouldn't ordinarily be bothered to post in a dedicated Christian thread because of how very alienated I've felt from my own church, it's turned around on itself into an odd sort of blessing and realization of a manmade battle, these feelings of alienation are our demons and lies. Isn't it SO MUCH BETTER for them, for the church to turn on itself? Hating each other for things like porn? Hating and alienating? Yeah, it works. It's worked. We can do better than that. I've found a church where I probably wouldn't be excommunicated for writing porn, and that is as it should be. We should be sticking together, not shunning each other.

So now it sort of makes me smile that there are indeed, two or more gathered together, writing porn in the name of the Lord, kicking ass and embracing the things we were given, which include sex and art and words.

Yeah. Sorry for butting in. And sorry for apologizing. I'm trying to break that habit, instead of apologizing, to be thankful instead that you've made this thread so that I could at some point contribute instead of apologizing for butting in where I'm no regular, but it's REALLY hard!

 

[English Lady]

While I'm not a thread regular here, I'd like to chip in a comment.

I had a rather curious revelation today over Twitter. That is, and I quote, "When two or more are gathered together." Twitter can be prayer. Facebook can be prayer. A forum here can be our church when we feel alone in a regular church.

I hope perhaps that can help someone as it did me.

As a pansexual kinkster, I tend to run into people who then recoil from the fact that I'm religious, and it makes me often sad that there are so many cooks spoiling the broth. There's definitely a place for LGBT Christians, and erotic writing Christians, and kinky Christians in the church.

While I wouldn't ordinarily be bothered to post in a dedicated Christian thread because of how very alienated I've felt from my own church, it's turned around on itself into an odd sort of blessing and realization of a manmade battle, these feelings of alienation are our demons and lies. Isn't it SO MUCH BETTER for them, for the church to turn on itself? Hating each other for things like porn? Hating and alienating? Yeah, it works. It's worked. We can do better than that. I've found a church where I probably wouldn't be excommunicated for writing porn, and that is as it should be. We should be sticking together, not shunning each other.

So now it sort of makes me smile that there are indeed, two or more gathered together, writing porn in the name of the Lord, kicking ass and embracing the things we were given, which include sex and art and words.

Yeah. Sorry for butting in. And sorry for apologizing. I'm trying to break that habit, instead of apologizing, to be thankful instead that you've made this thread so that I could at some point contribute instead of apologizing for butting in where I'm no regular, but it's REALLY hard!

Please don't apologise, this is a BRILLIANT post and I love it. Exactly, this group here is a church, any time we meet with someone and chat about God it's a church. I love that fact and it is a freeing idea.

Please feel welcome to come back and post some more. We're all spotty posters here, bobbing in as and when we have time and/or inclination. That's how I like it. Everyone fits in here, Christian or no. I won't turn anyone away who wants to talk about Christianity, God, Jesus and erotica.

It saddens me that the church spends so much time building up walls and keeping folks out. I hope more places like this pop up online so we can get together and encourage each other as we are, without having to pretend to be something we're not.

God accepts us as we are, that is a huge blessing!

 

[Jay_P]

Anyone still on this thread?

 

[curl4ever]

Anyone still on this thread?

Still subscribed.
Not much to say at the moment, but I'm listening.

- curl

 

[Handley_Page]

Anyone still on this thread?

Of course.

But readers do not always have things to say.

 

[JKendallDane]

So happy to see this thread show back up. Hope to be a regular.

In the mean time, this picture does a much better job of explaining my belief system than words could:

 

[Jay_P]

Of course.

But readers do not always have things to say.

True.. Just checking for signs of life

 

[wallyrutherford]

Everyone fits in here, Christian or no. I won't turn anyone away who wants to talk about Christianity, God, Jesus and erotica.

It saddens me that the church spends so much time building up walls and keeping folks out. I hope more places like this pop up online so we can get together and encourage each other as we are, without having to pretend to be something we're not.

English Lady,
Did you receive my IM?
Didn't see a response, so was curious.

Yes, I'm a believer too but love Literotica.

I particularly enjoy reading first-time stories, when an innocent Christian girl surrenders her sweet virgin pussy to her pagan man, and lets him get first-crack at her Christian innocence.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

JKendallDane... I like it.

 

[Hypoxia]

I particularly enjoy reading first-time stories, when an innocent Christian girl surrenders her sweet virgin pussy to her pagan man, and lets him get first-crack at her Christian innocence.

Of course, many sorts of Xians exist -- Mormon polygamists included. There's even a Church Of The Naked Jesus. Yes, the "conservative repressed fundamentalist" stereotype (like your scenario) is popular in erotica -- because it's easy. The Xian virgin and pagan stud are stock characters, OK for a short stroker, but IMHO inadequate for longer pieces.

 

[Jay_P]

And within bounds. There is a growing Sex-positive movement in the church. The bounds are that sex is supposed to occur between husband and wife, but within that context it is to be a beautiful thing, celebrated, enjoyed and partaken of joyfully and deeply. That in its own way given the allegory between Christ and the church as husband and wife, marital sex can be a form of worship.

 

[GPLockwood]

Well I've been hovering around starting this thread for a day or so but I was having trouble thinking what to call it.

Anyhow,this is a place for anyone with christian beliefs to come and chat. It's a place to discuss the issues that come up from being a porn writer/reader and being a christian, a place to share prayer requests or just a place to hangout with other christian folks and have some good old fashioned fellowship.

And of Course any non-christian folk are more than welcome to come and join in the fun if they so desire.

What a fascinating and bold idea for a thread in Literotica! This thread could certainly go in any number of interesting directions. I'll certainly be following this, and I look forward to learning more about the theological viewpoints of my fellow erotica authors!

 

[GPLockwood]

While I'm not a thread regular here, I'd like to chip in a comment.

I had a rather curious revelation today over Twitter. That is, and I quote, "When two or more are gathered together." Twitter can be prayer. Facebook can be prayer. A forum here can be our church when we feel alone in a regular church.

I hope perhaps that can help someone as it did me.

As a pansexual kinkster, I tend to run into people who then recoil from the fact that I'm religious, and it makes me often sad that there are so many cooks spoiling the broth. There's definitely a place for LGBT Christians, and erotic writing Christians, and kinky Christians in the church.

While I wouldn't ordinarily be bothered to post in a dedicated Christian thread because of how very alienated I've felt from my own church, it's turned around on itself into an odd sort of blessing and realization of a manmade battle, these feelings of alienation are our demons and lies. Isn't it SO MUCH BETTER for them, for the church to turn on itself? Hating each other for things like porn? Hating and alienating? Yeah, it works. It's worked. We can do better than that. I've found a church where I probably wouldn't be excommunicated for writing porn, and that is as it should be. We should be sticking together, not shunning each other.

So now it sort of makes me smile that there are indeed, two or more gathered together, writing porn in the name of the Lord, kicking ass and embracing the things we were given, which include sex and art and words.

Yeah. Sorry for butting in. And sorry for apologizing. I'm trying to break that habit, instead of apologizing, to be thankful instead that you've made this thread so that I could at some point contribute instead of apologizing for butting in where I'm no regular, but it's REALLY hard!

Thanks for sharing, Noira. I'm deeply religious and very active in my church as well, and while my sexual activities are exclusively and faithfully with my wife, we're both kind of perverted in a good sort of way. Our pastor is bisexual, and our church is very active in promoting LGBT rights and equality. (We actually have a Pride flag hanging in our Church sanctuary. True story.) While I'm not sure what they would think at church if they knew that I write stories about incest and people having anal sex with demons, I'm sure that they would allow me to stay. The church is finding a way forward and working to hear what God is saying to us in our own day and age.

 

[Hypoxia]

When I started in communications engineering , I heard this truism: "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them." (Any systems designer knows what I mean.)

We can apply that to religions and their dogmas and documents. Those religious elements give us excuses; we can find some creed or holy text to justify and support just about any fucking thing we want. We can build our faiths, like picking from an ala carte menu. "I'll take three parts holy vengeance and one part spreading-the-word, hold the meekness please."

I'm glad that some believers find scriptural support for wild sex. I'm afraid they'll be punished somehow by establishment mandarins holding different views. Good luck.

 

[lovecraft68]

Faith is faith and it is personal and unique to the person that holds it.

religion is nothing more than an organized business telling you what to believe, how to practice it and how to show contempt and disdain for anyone who does not believe what they do.

 

[GPLockwood]

When I started in communications engineering , I heard this truism: "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them." (Any systems designer knows what I mean.)

We can apply that to religions and their dogmas and documents. Those religious elements give us excuses; we can find some creed or holy text to justify and support just about any fucking thing we want. We can build our faiths, like picking from an ala carte menu. "I'll take three parts holy vengeance and one part spreading-the-word, hold the meekness please."

I'm glad that some believers find scriptural support for wild sex. I'm afraid they'll be punished somehow by establishment mandarins holding different views. Good luck.

I'll take all the luck I can get. But the church needs to talk more about sex in an open, honest, and non-hypocritical manner. If I'm punished for that, then it won't be the first time I've been in trouble and it won't be the last. Seriously. We talk about wanting happy marriages, right? Husbands need to know how to perform cunnilingus if their wife enjoys it. I truly regard keeping my wife sexually satisfied as (an extremely enjoyable) part of my duty to her as a Christian husband.
Not to get preachy, but look at how the "establishment mandarins" treated Jesus. If they treat us similarly, that may be an indication that we're doing our jobs properly. There is absolutely no Scriptural justification for anyone to tell my wife and I that we can't have wild fun in the bedroom as long as both parties are treated with the compassion and respect deserving of beings created in the Imago Dei, and I think that the rest of my congregation is aware that I would get way too much enjoyment from the opportunity to discuss this in front of the whole church.
You're right, that Scripture is open to self-serving interpretations and that many people have created God in their own image. But, to me, the most important guidance we have from scripture is to love God, which is best demonstrated through kindness to our fellow human beings. That which honors my fellow human being honors God, and that which causes pain for my fellow human being dishonors God.

BTW: I like the statement about standards! I'll have to use that some time.

 

[GPLockwood]

http://sojo.net/blogs/2014/02/24/you-brought-me-beer-—-and-took-my-picture

A young lady I know, who is in seminary to become a minister, posted a link to this article on Facebook. I thought that I would share it with the people here.