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voluptuary_manque said:
So is Ecclesiastes.

And there should be much debate about what Paul was really upset about. Was he actually against same-sex love or was he upset with men who went to pagan temples, performed oral sex on other men and gave the money they received to the temple? To me that would be a much greater reason for distress than two men just getting it on in private. Among the more mainstream denominations this discussion can get quite detailed.

Anyway, my latest story is about a pious bunch who got thrown out of their home country and sent to the stars. Midsummerfest, Chap 1.
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Yes, I've heard the same thing myself and I agree with you. I don't think Paul is as anti-gay as some folk make him out to be.

master_chay said:
I keep hearing this unfortunate term:

"I write smut."

I guess there are people who do and really get a kick out of it.

But you don't have to write smut if it makes you feel uncomfortable or compromised.

One can write erotica, that's what I do. I don't consider to write in order to make people hot or come to be "dirty." My hands are clean :)

Pornographic literature is another one or just pornographic writing. Sexually explicit writing.

Exploring human sexuality through fiction.

Many ways to think and FEEL about writing about sex.

Filthy dirty delicious SEX ...


:devil:
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I love smut. I love the word it IS what I write. I know it has a negative connotation for some but over here in the UK it is a light hearted and good natured term and I love it.

http://smutbythesea.co.uk/

Read the second chunk on this page, that's me explaining the word smut. I'm reclaiming it for good. :D

I write erotica, it's also smut. I'm good with that. :D





WaywardandLost said:
English Lady I would like to thank you for starting this page. I became a Christian on March 14th 1986. I use to celebrate that day but now it usually comes and goes without my notice. I had an operation on my right lung a few years ago to take out a Carcinoid Tumor. I had it easy though compared to so many other people. I just had to have follow up X-Rays every six months. When I was first diagnosed I started coming unglued as the Doctor was running all sorts of tests to make sure the rest of my body was clean. I had always had problems with my place in this world but then the thoughts came more and more often. Why was I born? What is my purpose? Why did God create us? What's the point of it all? I have been struggling with my faith and and self worth on an highly acclerated level since that day. I feel guilty for feeling this way as so many people have it so much harder than I did and do. The Bible Scripture that would describe my frame of mind would be:


Ecclesiastes 1:2

2 “Meaningless! Meaningless!”
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
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*hugs* It is hard to come to terms with such illnesses and it does bring up questions of mortality. Welcome to the thread, I hope the community here can be of help, sorry it's been so long for me to reply, I need to log in here more often!

I just want to say on thing, Jesus came to free us from guilt. Do not feel bad because of how you feel, talk to God and tell him. He already knows but until you open a dialogue he can't help you with it. Find that kernel of joy that permanently resides in your heart because you are saved. It's there, it will always be there. And think, God loved you so much he sent his son to die in your stead. Amazing huh? He think's you're more than worth it. Spend some time in consultation with him and he will guide you through, I am certain.

Keeping you in my prayers :rose:
 
Thanks for the nw link DG! Will chck it later I have to rush to get to church now. *L*

Miss you all, will pop back soon!
 
*hugs* It is hard to come to terms with such illnesses and it does bring up questions of mortality. Welcome to the thread, I hope the community here can be of help, sorry it's been so long for me to reply, I need to log in here more often!

I just want to say on thing, Jesus came to free us from guilt. Do not feel bad because of how you feel, talk to God and tell him. He already knows but until you open a dialogue he can't help you with it. Find that kernel of joy that permanently resides in your heart because you are saved. It's there, it will always be there. And think, God loved you so much he sent his son to die in your stead. Amazing huh? He think's you're more than worth it. Spend some time in consultation with him and he will guide you through, I am certain.

Keeping you in my prayers :rose:[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your words and prayers.
 
He said it himself: He came to save the sinners, not the righteous.

EL, great thread. God bless you!
 
Deb and Pat update

To curl4ever, estragon, English Lady, and all who included Debbie and Pat in your prayers, thank you.

Debbie is doing better and is back to work. Pat is holding her own, working again, but only a fraction of the hours she worked before. The lymphoedema flairs up quite often and the congestive heart failure isn’t going away, but she is doing better.

EL – I hope the new church is working out. I’m so glad you have the support you have and congratulations on your book. And I echo estragon, thanks for the great thread!

blue4lu – I, too, keep my writing a secret. I love my church, but know I would be excommunicated if my fellow parishioners found out my submissions to this site.

estragon – You are absolutely correct, “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” Isn’t it wonderful “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” all!!

master chay – love your Catholic Porn. Thank you. Maybe I should change churches.

DG – thanks for the link. I will check it out.

To all have a great day, Maddie
 
Brilliant. :) I feel I've been called to reach out to those of us that feel we don't fit in at 'regular' church. I'm sure these geoups will be a great blessing. :)
 
Hello room

Been here for awhile
Great to see other Christians here as well
Reader mostly but have a few postings and threads
 
I am a firm believer in Christ and it's because of this that I know I can't control my fate, or the fate of my daughter. She leaves in a few hours to head to Detroit, where she'll get on a plane and eventually head to Argentina.

I, like many moms and dads and family members that send their kids into the unknown have spent a lot of time on unshed tears for the past several months as my daughter prepares for this trip. She raised the funds to go via help from our church family, our friends and family, as well as our community. So many people have had a hand in encouraging her to make this happen.

There are approximately 15-20 people from our area going on this trip. It's a Missions trip where the group will be helping side-by-side with village members to repair a church, as well as install bathrooms. So many people will be touched by this ministry.

I think it is this that worries me. Not that she's going far away from home and not that her life is beyond my control. It is the fact that so many people – believers and non-believers could be affected by some tragedy that befalls on this group.

We all know that God uses tragedies to help bring people closer to Him. He uses them as opportunities to reinforce our faith in Him. He uses them to help bring the non-believers and the people who are “on the fence” to Him. That's what concerns me … that He'll choose to allow a tragedy to occur in order to bring others to Him and my daughter and the young members of this community will be part of that tragedy.

Even now He is using her trip to reinforce my belief in Him. I sit and realize that the reason I fear the tragedy is because I know that He could take something horrific and turn it into something positive for someone else and maybe out there in the world there is someone that needs saved and He knows that the lives of the people on this missions trip could save them.

Every soul is precious to God and if He chooses to use my daughter and her friends and members of the church to save those souls it will be because He knew it was necessary.

Having no power, no control, and knowing you don't but someone else does – and that someone is God – that is why I know deep in my gut that I am a believer in Christ. If I didn't fear and went about nonchalantly, like her getting on a plane and going to a foreign country was just like walking out to get the mail, then in my opinion that would be as if I were saying – there is no God so what does it matter what I feel.

But I don't feel that way … so I pray that God chooses not to use my daughter and the others on her trip as lessons on why we need to turn to Him.

Tell your friends and family you love them, openly express your beliefs and when you fear speaking publicly about Christ think about this – do you hate that person so much that you're willing to condemn them to Hell because you fear their reaction to your faith?

:heart:
 
English Lady said:
Well I've been hovering around starting this thread for a day or so but I was having trouble thinking what to call it.

Anyhow,this is a place for anyone with christian beliefs to come and chat. It's a place to discuss the issues that come up from being a porn writer/reader and being a christian, a place to share prayer requests or just a place to hangout with other christian folks and have some good old fashioned fellowship.

And of Course any non-christian folk are more than welcome to come and join in the fun if they so desire. :)
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I am amazed at your thread. i did not know that any Christian would consider pornography okay. I guess I have heard everything now. Don't you get your peepee whacked if you do porn? I want to read in his thread that someone is not "lapsed" or "going through the motions" but is an actual self-avowed Christian and loves porn.
 
robertreams said:
I am amazed at your thread. i did not know that any Christian would consider pornography okay. I guess I have heard everything now. Don't you get your peepee whacked if you do porn? I want to read in his thread that someone is not "lapsed" or "going through the motions" but is an actual self-avowed Christian and loves porn.
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<raises hand>

Hi.

I'm an actual self-avowed Christian (church every Sunday out of love rather than obligation).

AND... I love porn.

- curl
 
robertreams said:
I am amazed at your thread. i did not know that any Christian would consider pornography okay. I guess I have heard everything now. Don't you get your peepee whacked if you do porn? I want to read in his thread that someone is not "lapsed" or "going through the motions" but is an actual self-avowed Christian and loves porn.
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Thanks for posting this here, Robertreams.

The question you might be really posing is whether or not porn is evil.

I think I can speak on behalf of quite a lot of Christians in saying that the one thing that distinguishes Christians from other types of believers in a god of some description - is that real, actual Christians don't believe their god is a hypocrite, for one thing. The god of Christians knows what it is like to be human. Christ IS a human.

Now Christ may be any other type of being or creature in various other parts of the Universe - you know, a Vogon in Vogonia for all I know, but most assuredly, Christ here on this planet is a human. Just like any one of 'us.' Not different to us.

Anything can be turned to an evil purpose.

Sex is just one kind of intimate aspect of human life that happens to be concerned with sexual physical and sexual intellectual human processes - but one that also draws things into a very narrow focus and often excludes everything else because of its exigency. Because of its natural power it is vulnerable to being manipulated towards evil - for human beings.

Porn is just sexual writing or sexual drawing or graphical expression of sex.

And porn is very vulnerable to missuse. That is certainly true.
 
RedHairedandFriendly said:
I am a firm believer in Christ and it's because of this that I know I can't control my fate, or the fate of my daughter. She leaves in a few hours to head to Detroit, where she'll get on a plane and eventually head to Argentina.

I, like many moms and dads and family members that send their kids into the unknown have spent a lot of time on unshed tears for the past several months as my daughter prepares for this trip. She raised the funds to go via help from our church family, our friends and family, as well as our community. So many people have had a hand in encouraging her to make this happen.

There are approximately 15-20 people from our area going on this trip. It's a Missions trip where the group will be helping side-by-side with village members to repair a church, as well as install bathrooms. So many people will be touched by this ministry.

I think it is this that worries me. Not that she's going far away from home and not that her life is beyond my control. It is the fact that so many people – believers and non-believers could be affected by some tragedy that befalls on this group.

We all know that God uses tragedies to help bring people closer to Him. He uses them as opportunities to reinforce our faith in Him. He uses them to help bring the non-believers and the people who are “on the fence” to Him. That's what concerns me … that He'll choose to allow a tragedy to occur in order to bring others to Him and my daughter and the young members of this community will be part of that tragedy.

Even now He is using her trip to reinforce my belief in Him. I sit and realize that the reason I fear the tragedy is because I know that He could take something horrific and turn it into something positive for someone else and maybe out there in the world there is someone that needs saved and He knows that the lives of the people on this missions trip could save them.

Every soul is precious to God and if He chooses to use my daughter and her friends and members of the church to save those souls it will be because He knew it was necessary.

Having no power, no control, and knowing you don't but someone else does – and that someone is God – that is why I know deep in my gut that I am a believer in Christ. If I didn't fear and went about nonchalantly, like her getting on a plane and going to a foreign country was just like walking out to get the mail, then in my opinion that would be as if I were saying – there is no God so what does it matter what I feel.

But I don't feel that way … so I pray that God chooses not to use my daughter and the others on her trip as lessons on why we need to turn to Him.

Tell your friends and family you love them, openly express your beliefs and when you fear speaking publicly about Christ think about this – do you hate that person so much that you're willing to condemn them to Hell because you fear their reaction to your faith?

:heart:
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I'll keep your daughter and her group in my prayers, thanks for posting!



robertreams said:
I am amazed at your thread. i did not know that any Christian would consider pornography okay. I guess I have heard everything now. Don't you get your peepee whacked if you do porn? I want to read in his thread that someone is not "lapsed" or "going through the motions" but is an actual self-avowed Christian and loves porn.
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I'm an actual Christian. Church going, every day life living Christian and I WRITE porn.Well, erotica, but the line is fairly blurry. :)


oggbashan said:
Joined the Yahoo Group and I have posted a few of my stories. A readers/writers group without stories seems empty.
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Thanks Og, saw your message but have been chasing my tail all day! All week, actually.

Desiremakesmeweak said:
Thanks for posting this here, Robertreams.

The question you might be really posing is whether or not porn is evil.

I think I can speak on behalf of quite a lot of Christians in saying that the one thing that distinguishes Christians from other types of believers in a god of some description - is that real, actual Christians don't believe their god is a hypocrite, for one thing. The god of Christians knows what it is like to be human. Christ IS a human.

Now Christ may be any other type of being or creature in various other parts of the Universe - you know, a Vogon in Vogonia for all I know, but most assuredly, Christ here on this planet is a human. Just like any one of 'us.' Not different to us.

Anything can be turned to an evil purpose.

Sex is just one kind of intimate aspect of human life that happens to be concerned with sexual physical and sexual intellectual human processes - but one that also draws things into a very narrow focus and often excludes everything else because of its exigency. Because of its natural power it is vulnerable to being manipulated towards evil - for human beings.

Porn is just sexual writing or sexual drawing or graphical expression of sex.

And porn is very vulnerable to missuse. That is certainly true.
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Exactly!


And *waves* to Curl! :)
 
Thank-you, EL. :rose:

It's been an emotional time for me. Sending her off on the bus to Detroit was harder than leaving my eldest at her college dorm, her freshman year.

I was able to receive a couple texts from my daughter and I have tracked all three of her plane rides and as long as all went well with customs, she should be at her destination along with everyone else.

I may not hear from her for a couple of days, due to internet connections in the village are "iffy".

Again, thank-you for the prayers, the thread, and you're very welcome for the post. :rose:

~ Red
 
robertreams said:
I am amazed at your thread. i did not know that any Christian would consider pornography okay. I guess I have heard everything now. Don't you get your peepee whacked if you do porn? I want to read in his thread that someone is not "lapsed" or "going through the motions" but is an actual self-avowed Christian and loves porn.
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I am an atheist (and apologies for intruding here!) but one of my most inventive smut-writing partners was & is an active, practicing Christian.
 
Hi there Bramblethorn.

Sensible people will probably credit or concede that a number of honestly-motivated atheists have steered a large number of people away from silly ideas and beliefs, and helped to prevent the manipulative from becoming all too powerful from time to time.
 
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