FloggingMolly
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I'm gonna have to do this now...
Christian BDSM
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I'm gonna have to do this now...
Stella_Omega
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Does your Christianity have anything to do with your BDSM play? Do you feel that you play in a particularly biblically approved way, or any of that sort of thing?
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Hey, we'll have none of that sangria law around here you infidel!
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I think people who invent "Christian" versions of BDSM, music, books, 'you name it they have a Christian version of it', are the intellectual equivalent of 2 x 4 planks.
I have no respect whatsoever for this insular attitude to reality. I'm not trying deliberately to offend you, this is merely my point of view.
Do Christians have a 'culture'? Sure thing. But extending that to literally everything is seriously disturbing, like the way there was "Nazi Physics" and "Jewish Physics" in the 3rd Reich or the way there was "Communist" history and regular history for the Soviets. There is no Christian favour of ice-cream, why have Christian equivalents of heavy metal et al. I think many actual Christians would be on board with what I'm saying. If you really believe in God then I would have thought you'd accept that everything is God's handiwork, and leave it at that. To say something is more so or less so opens the door to some fairly serious theological loopholes in your arguments...
Why is there gay anything for that matter?
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I think people who invent "Christian" versions of BDSM, music, books, 'you name it they have a Christian version of it', are the intellectual equivalent of 2 x 4 planks.
I have no respect whatsoever for this insular attitude to reality. I'm not trying deliberately to offend you, this is merely my point of view.
Do Christians have a 'culture'? Sure thing. But extending that to literally everything is seriously disturbing, like the way there was "Nazi Physics" and "Jewish Physics" in the 3rd Reich or the way there was "Communist" history and regular history for the Soviets. There is no Christian favour of ice-cream, why have Christian equivalents of heavy metal et al. I think many actual Christians would be on board with what I'm saying. If you really believe in God then I would have thought you'd accept that everything is God's handiwork, and leave it at that. To say something is more so or less so opens the door to some fairly serious theological loopholes in your arguments...
Well, I thought the deal was that this is only the wife submits to the man. I'm not aware of any female-led Christian domination. And I think doing something because God tells you so v. because you want to is a very different animal.
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does this strike anyone else as being deliciously ironic?
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No, not really. If you're insulating yourself you're insulating yourself and the big bad evil world doesn't have to kiss your ass for it.
The idea that Christianity is some kind of threatened challenged worldview works in Lebanon and Egypt, but not in the US or Europe.
Stella_Omega
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Word.
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I think people who invent "Christian" versions of BDSM, music, books, 'you name it they have a Christian version of it', are the intellectual equivalent of 2 x 4 planks.
I have no respect whatsoever for this insular attitude to reality. I'm not trying deliberately to offend you, this is merely my point of view.
Do Christians have a 'culture'? Sure thing. But extending that to literally everything is seriously disturbing, like the way there was "Nazi Physics" and "Jewish Physics" in the 3rd Reich or the way there was "Communist" history and regular history for the Soviets. There is no Christian favour of ice-cream, why have Christian equivalents of heavy metal et al. I think many actual Christians would be on board with what I'm saying. If you really believe in God then I would have thought you'd accept that everything is God's handiwork, and leave it at that. To say something is more so or less so opens the door to some fairly serious theological loopholes in your arguments...
Yawn....
wayfarm
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Does your Christianity have anything to do with your BDSM play? Do you feel that you play in a particularly biblically approved way, or any of that sort of thing?
My christianity isn't a framework of what we do, but we did wait to have sex.
I'm quite sure that our play isn't biblically approved. When I read the start of this thread, I wanted to let the OP know that there are people who have the kink and the Christ.
Why this bothers some concerns me not.
No. Never heard of it.
I SHOULD have but I haven't. WHY? Because Christian society only permits sex for procreation, if that. At the same time, it promotes "go forth and multiply" in order to expand Christianiaty.
Promote Christianity by procreating, but don't have any fun while doing it.
[No wonder I was a Sunday school drop-out.]
I SHOULD have but I haven't. WHY? Because Christian society only permits sex for procreation, if that. At the same time, it promotes "go forth and multiply" in order to expand Christianiaty.
Promote Christianity by procreating, but don't have any fun while doing it.
[No wonder I was a Sunday school drop-out.]
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LOL. ok, i laugh so hard at the thought of Christian BDSM.
Anything sexual that is taken out of marriage is sin. any sexual thought of someone other than your spouse is sin. (ironically, though, polygamy IS approved) In the Bible you have a complete book devoted to a man describing a woman through the eyes of lust. (song of solomon) but if you read leviticus it forbids almost everything, including anal.
i have heard of arguments that the Bible is where it all started. Sarah calls her husband Master. the christians call God Master. christians are the willing slave to Him. that kind of deal. the husband is the head of the household, and the wife is submissive to him.
still christian BDSM is an oxymoron. lol.
Anything sexual that is taken out of marriage is sin. any sexual thought of someone other than your spouse is sin. (ironically, though, polygamy IS approved) In the Bible you have a complete book devoted to a man describing a woman through the eyes of lust. (song of solomon) but if you read leviticus it forbids almost everything, including anal.
i have heard of arguments that the Bible is where it all started. Sarah calls her husband Master. the christians call God Master. christians are the willing slave to Him. that kind of deal. the husband is the head of the household, and the wife is submissive to him.
still christian BDSM is an oxymoron. lol.
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You feel guilty afterwards.
Stella_Omega
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But you are forgiven.
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...only after penance.
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Wait a second. I'm a Christian, I've read the Bible cover-to-cover, and I don't recall one verse saying "Thou shalt not have fun while having sex". Likewise, I don't recall one verse that says "Promote Christianity amongst mankind by having kids", but rather "Promote mankind amongst the earth by having kids".
kiss_of_sin said:
1.) Yup. The point is, don't cheat on the one you love- be it your spouse for worldly things, or be it God for spiritual things. If you're gonna do something, be dedicated about it, otherwise don't do it at all- wishywashiness and flip-flopping doesn't cut it.
2.) Polygamy was *tolerated* for a while. It was not approved, and come the time of Deuteronomy, it was denied for kings (who were supposed to be the example of "good behavior" to the people). Even in Genesis, the ideal was "one man, one woman, becoming as one flesh". And finally, Solomon's downfall was because of his polygamy.
3.) Not through lust, but rather, the love of the groom-to-be for his bride-to-be, and that of her for him as well.
4.) No, Leviticus forbids homosexuality, it doesn't forbid straight/solo anal.
@ the topic at hand, I really don't see what the problem is with Christian BDSM. Jesus taught "Love your neighbor as yourself"... on a most basic level, that means "treat one another good, just as you yourself want to be treated good". Within BDSM, that simply means "Sadist, hurt the masochist you love, in the way they want to be hurt/maso, cry out in the way that pleases the sadist you love" or "PYL, dominate your pyl in the way they desire/pyl, serve your PYL in the way that they desire"... give 100% of yourself to pleasing the one you love, regardless as to whether that pleasure comes come dominating or submitting, cropping or crying, going to work or making lunch for the one going to work... be good to them, just as you want them to be good to you.
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The bible is thoroughly supportive of the master/slave thing, including corporal punishment for the disobedient - yes?
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I've been predicting for a long time that at some point Christian BDSM was going to go mainstream. There's obviously a lot of overlap.
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The writings of "noone" on spanking are delightful.
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Quotes, please.
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Thanks for the link.
OTK is hot, of course. But I'm not into the discipline thing - which could explain why, to me, that piece reads as pure parody.
More broadly, I don't get the appeal of the CDD dynamic. Partly because the sexism and homophobia embedded in the model, as presented, are thoroughly disgusting. But also because I get my control-based rocks off by knowing a partner chooses to participate as a reflection of her devotion to me, rather than participating as a form of allegiance to some perceived divine covenant. A wants, vs. has to, thing.
You've mentioned a fondness for 'has to' in the past, rosco. Is the threat of damnation as ultimate coercion part of the appeal for you?
