Cheating Husband or Loving Husband stories?

[MillieDynamite]

Okay, we have the category for Loving Wives/cheating wives. Why isn't there one for men? Would INCELS find them as objectionable as the 'tuther way around? I think we generally see these in Erotic Couplings. Is that their proper place?

Come on now, I really want everyone's opinion on this.

 

[StillStunned]

"And there will be strange signs. The earth will shake, the moon will eat the sun, and on message boards people will post outlandish ideas."

(As someone who's never gone near LW, and probably never will, I can't offer anything more constructive. Sorry. It's definitely an interesting topic.)

 

[STrent]

Okay, we have the category for Loving Wives/cheating wives. Why isn't there one for men? Would INCELS find them as objectionable as the 'tuther way around? I think we generally see these in Erotic Couplings. Is that their proper place?

Come on now, I really want everyone's opinion on this.

I don’t need it as a category, but it might suit some of my stories better (and they are in erotic couplings).

But either way, no strong feelings on it.

 

[gacor]

There are stories like that in LW already. Amischiefmaker (from the guy’s pov) or Amyyum (from the woman's pov) have written a few stories with that premise that I have read.

The more standard “spouse cheats, other spouse finds out, they divorce/reconcile” stories with less erotic content where the cheater is the man also get posted in the category, I posted one myself last month. They are admittedly less common, but they dont score necessarily lower than the reverse if the quality is the same.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Okay, we have the category for Loving Wives/cheating wives. Why isn't there one for men? Would INCELS find them as objectionable as the 'tuther way around? I think we generally see these in Erotic Couplings. Is that their proper place?

Come on now, I really want everyone's opinion on this.

Loving Husbands stories already crop up in LW, but they tend to be structured in one of two ways: BTB stories or swinging stories, with the odd cuckquean one here and there.

As a general rule, if a story is a BTB(astard), it tends to do pretty decently. Some of it is the general dislike of infidelity by a sizable contingent in the category, but I think some of it is also novelty. There will definitely be "where's the loving wife?!" comments, too. The swapping ones do about as well as the swapping ones that are female-focused, and the cuckquean ones tend to do better than the cuckolding ones, but that's more because of the way they're typically structured. The cuckquean ones that end up in LW tend to be "sweeter" on the whole than the cuckold ones that do. There are check-ins with the wife to make sure this is what she really wants, it's typically the wife initiating the action, etc. The hard/mean CQ stories go to fetish; the hard/mean cuckold stories sometimes don't.

 

[Britva415]

LW has more of these stories than any other category.

Even EC, which is about 75% bigger in terms of number of stories submitted.

All the other categories combined besides these two has about as many as LW alone.

Whether LW, EC or something else is the proper place or not seems to me to depend on the story.

 

[intim8]

There will definitely be "where's the loving wife?!" comments, too.

My one LW starts with the wife dead (inspired by an offhand comment you made in your epic essay) and the husband still feeling guilty about "cheating" on her, even two years after her death. The intro focused a lot on how good their relationship was, so she was technically loving, but I still got a few of those comments.

The story did manage to just barely earn the H.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Not that I plan on writing one. Just wondering and curious about what has been done in the past. Also, what you wonderful folks think about this type of story? So, keep it coming.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Not that I plan on writing one. Just wondering and curious about what has been done in the past. Also, what you wonderful folks think about this type of story? So, keep it coming.

I welcome them. More viewpoints are better, in my opinion. I kind of wish they'd change the title to "Loving Spouses," but I know that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

 

[intim8]

Also, what you wonderful folks think about this type of story? So, keep it coming.

I have no horse in LW, I don't read it, so I don't really care what kinds of stories go in there. As to cheating husbands, it seems to be a pretty common topic generally.

A cheating husband story has a completely different vibe from the cheating wives stories that go in LW. A hangover from some fairly outdated ideas about the different importance of a wife's fidelity vs a husband's. A wife cheats, it's an unforgivable betrayal. A husband cheats, and it is somewhere between "You go, dude!" and "It was a mistake, and she'll take him back unless there's a lot of money involved in a divorce settlement, then she'll completely screw him and he'll be the victim."

 

[lustychimera]

Isn't it mostly just playing with the power dynamics, whether it's consensual or not?

The husband sharing/cheating dynamic doesn't seem as taboo. It's more a story about a studly man, someone to envy, rather than a slutty immoral wife.

I think insecure people get really upset when the standard man in charge power dynamic reverses. The man sleeping around is just kind of...traditional?

 

[Lifestyle66]

Okay, Millie, read my story "The Teacher -- 750 Words", "Shy wife learned her husband is cheating."

I posted it at the end of Feb, and it has over 13k views in LW with 651 votes at 3.61 (remember I'm a shitty writer, so that's at the high end of my range).

The monogamy-only crowd there seems to equally hate wives or husbands cheating.

But I have one other story in that last 750-word challenge "Quiet, Don't Wake Him" where the husband has set up his affair to cheat, but it's his mental review of how his wife has dissed him for the past ten years while he awaited their last kid's departure from the home. It's done rather well with over 31k views, and 1,474 votes for 3.85. So, apparently the readers just don't approve of a loveless marriage either.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Okay, we have the category for Loving Wives/cheating wives. Why isn't there one for men? Would INCELS find them as objectionable as the 'tuther way around? I think we generally see these in Erotic Couplings. Is that their proper place?

Come on now, I really want everyone's opinion on this.

You know how it’s goes Millie. One rule for guys another for girls. Men can do what they like, but God help any woman who steps out of line. It’s like the Middle Ages.

Emily

 

[intim8]

You know, when I started reading here, I naively assumed that Loving Wives was just married people getting it on.

 

[lovecraft68]

Men cheating is how it should be to most of these people.

But I bet the stories wouldn't be filled with women screeching in the comments.

Why not? Because women don't whine like men do.

 

[offkilter123]

You know how it’s goes Millie. One rule for guys another for girls. Men can do what they like, but God help any woman who steps out of line. It’s like the Middle Ages.

Emily

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[EmilyMiller]

The dumbest in a long line of dumb remarks you have made. You would think that someone who spends their life 24/7 posting on a forum in which males are overly solicitous to you would not hate-post. Kind of at odds with that whole positivity and kindness thread you started. I think we all know which is the real you.

Wow! Most unintentionally self-referential post of the day.

Chill dude!

Emily

 

[intim8]

<popcorn>

 

[MillieDynamite]

True.

I welcome them. More viewpoints are better, in my opinion. I kind of wish they'd change the title to "Loving Spouses," but I know that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Again, quite accurate.

I have no horse in LW, I don't read it, so I don't really care what kinds of stories go in there. As to cheating husbands, it seems to be a pretty common topic generally.

A cheating husband story has a completely different vibe from the cheating wives stories that go in LW. A hangover from some fairly outdated ideas about the different importance of a wife's fidelity vs a husband's. A wife cheats, it's an unforgivable betrayal. A husband cheats, and it is somewhere between "You go, dude!" and "It was a mistake, and she'll take him back unless there's a lot of money involved in a divorce settlement, then she'll completely screw him and he'll be the victim."

Yes, I know the old boys' network well.

You know how it’s goes Millie. One rule for guys another for girls. Men can do what they like, but God help any woman who steps out of line. It’s like the Middle Ages.

Emily

 

[EmilyMiller]

Yes, I know the old boys' network well.

Alive and well on this thread

Emily

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

Alive and well on this thread

Emily

To be fair, though, it was pretty civilized in here, with every poster giving actual, reasoned responses and references to the initial question... until you decided to jump in with an unsolicited roundhouse kick to every male author's head about how privileged we all are.

 

[EmilyMiller]

To be fair, though, it was pretty civilized in here, with every poster giving actual, reasoned responses and references to the initial question... until you decided to jump in with an unsolicited roundhouse kick to every male author's head about how privileged we all are.

OK - it’s the beat on Emily thread. Makes a change. Tell me what you really think.

Emily

 

[Djmac1031]

You would think that someone who spends their life 24/7 posting on a forum in which males are overly solicitous to you would not hate-post.

And what makes you think she cares what "overly solicitous" guys think about her opinions?

No, really, serious question.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Anyone else wanna beat a woman, please feel free. Just type away your frustrations below.

Let me help encourage you, OK? Strange how shallow the latent misogyny is. Just a little scratch and it all comes oozing out.

As I say, feel free. I can take it. You’re proving my point much more eloquently than I ever could.

Emily

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

OK - it’s the beat on Emily thread. Makes a change. Tell me what you really think.

Emily

I... what? I was just pointing out that your comment read as less than constructive. I'm surprised you take that as a personal attack on your person. I'll see myself out as you seem to be having a bad day.