Capitalism is just fine, Redwave

[teddybear4play]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stuffed not OK . . .

Wanna bet?

REDWAVE has intellect, there's a difference...



ppman

Doesn't matter. All he does is cut and paste and then basks in yours and Don K Dyck's kissing of his ass. A six-year old can do that.

Having intellect is worthless if he doesn't display it. I've rarely seen instances of that, certainly not enough to claim any kind of intelligence.

TB4p

 

[Don K Dyck]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stuffed not OK . . .

Doesn't matter. All he does is cut and paste and then basks in yours and Don K Dyck's kissing of his ass. A six-year old can do that.

Having intellect is worthless if he doesn't display it. I've rarely seen instances of that, certainly not enough to claim any kind of intelligence. TB4p

Hey TB4p . . . it must be difficult . . . you never do it . . . (bit careful with the arse-kissing . . . ) Alternatively, if a six year old can do it, why can't you??

 

[Rex1960]

The Ant and the Grasshopper

1. Classic Version:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

Moral of the story: Be responsible for yourself.

2. Modern Version:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.

CBS, NBC and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in the country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so ?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing "It's not easy being green".

Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing "We shall overcome". Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.

Al Gore exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share".

Finally the EEOC drafts "Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act", retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare recipients. The ant loses the case.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared in the snow.

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.

Moral of the story: Vote carefully

 

[p_p_man]

Re: The Ant and the Grasshopper

1. Classic Version:

Moral of the story: Be responsible for yourself.

2. Modern Version:

Moral of the story: Vote carefully

<<APPLAUSE!!!>>

Excellent post...

ppman

 

[Rex1960]

Re: Re: The Ant and the Grasshopper

<<APPLAUSE!!!>>

Excellent post...

ppman

Morning p_p, ty

 

[MechaBlade]

Re: The Ant and the Grasshopper

1. Classic Version:

2. Modern Version:

[...] i[...] su[....]c[....]k[...].

Was almost funny until it turned into a story for Republicans.

 

[charlie-codex]

Re: The Ant and the Grasshopper

1. Classic Version:

Moral of the story: Be responsible for yourself.

2. Modern Version:

Moral of the story: Vote carefully

If the ant had any brains at all, he would have ensured that he had several offshore properties and bank accounts so he wouldn't need to be worried about the one measly house.
And what's he doing in that house in the winter anyway? He should be in the Carib or the Med on his yacht! Schmuck.

 

[weed]

Where does the spider's abandoned crack addicted baby fit in?

Another future criminal of society?

And will the ant make enough to care for his deteriorating mother who now needs total 24/7 care in her aged state?

If grasshopper's little brother cricket tries to be a responsible citizen but just doesn't have the capacity or education for more than a worker bee's job, will he make a living wage?

devil: )

 

[weed]

Stay tuned....

....as the clit turns....

ooops

...as the Lit turns...

 

[Never]

Capitalist Poem Two-Twenty


I went to Subway.
I ordered a Sweet Onion Teriyaki Foot Long.
I asked for it on Monterey Cheese Bread.
I asked for American Cheese.
I wanted cucumbers added to that.
I wanted jalapenos added as well.
To drink I ordered a Brisk iced tea.
I also had a small bag of Nacho Cheesier chips and a cookie.

I gave the woman my credit card.
She said they only took cash.
I only had a five.
My friend lent me a ten.

The best sauces at Subway are the Sweet Onion and the Honey Mustard
Mike only orders meatball subs at Subway.

I ate the sub
It was good
It was the only thing I had had all day

I was aware of the social injustice in only the vaguest manner possible

 

[Rex1960]

Re: Re: The Ant and the Grasshopper

If the ant had any brains at all, he would have ensured that he had several offshore properties and bank accounts so he wouldn't need to be worried about the one measly house.
And what's he doing in that house in the winter anyway? He should be in the Carib or the Med on his yacht! Schmuck.

Do you think, the grasshopper was responsible when the ant finally starts to think twice and carries the money offshore ?

 

[Rex1960]

Capitalist Poem Two-Twenty...

I somehow don't get it. Maybe just because I'm German.

 

[Never]

I'm not quite certain what you don't 'get' about the poem.

 

[Rex1960]

I'm not quite certain what you don't 'get' about the poem.

Still trying to figure out....
My dictionary is ... um ... incomplete

 

[Never]

If there are specific words you are having problems with I'd been more than willing to help you with them. I’m not certain it would be worth your time though. The poem is about how people, in their day-to-day activities, are indifferent to the ‘big picture’ of the system they operate within.

 

[Rex1960]

The poem is about how people, in their day-to-day activities, are indifferent to the ‘big picture’ of the system they operate within.

Ok, that helps a lot... ty

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

DCL started what he thought would be a 'smart' thread, found it developed into a serious discussion, couldn't handle the intellect of the whole thing and decided to get out from under.

Raise your hand if you think I don't have "intellect" or the capacity to debate, analyze, or fillibuster.

Do you read anyone's posts but your own, pee pee?

 

[REDWAVE]

OK

*raising my hand*

I must be really sad and pathetic to be you, Dicks. All these years of sucking up to the crowd, of playing for popularity, of being a whore for the conventional wisdom-- and now you're not even popular any more. Let's face it, you're washed up. Your style of humor is old and tired, 50's-ish. Lance is much, much funnier than you'll ever be.

Personally, I don't care about popularity, just getting my message out to as many people as possible.

 

[Rex1960]

Re: OK

Personally, I don't care about popularity, just getting my message out to as many people as possible.

A broadcasting concept is clever when you can't stand the response...

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I must be really sad and pathetic to be you, Dicks. All these years of sucking up to the crowd, of playing for popularity, of being a whore for the conventional wisdom-- and now you're not even popular any more. Let's face it, you're washed up. Your style of humor is old and tired, 50's-ish. Lance is much, much funnier than you'll ever be.

Keep saying it until you believe it. Kind of like "Socialism has never been given a real chance!"

 

[Don K Dyck]

Great Work

I somehow don't get it. Maybe just because I'm German.

Great parable, Rex . . . we have the same problem here . . .

Well done Never . . . Rex, you have to look at this piece as a whole world picture . . . with all the world problems occurring simultaneaously "around" the subject, these were beyond their immediate perception . . . and so totally irrelevant to the subject's immediate needs . . . which was paying for the sandwich . . .

Maybe others would look deeper . . . at the excesses of U$ society . . . a society run on credit because it has expended all its capital . . . the egocentricity of the subject, lucky to be borne into a thriving community where diverse foods are available and totally oblivious to the "starving hordes of Africa or Asia" . . . the subject's only concern is personal satisfaction of their immediate personal needs . . .

Regardless . . . it is a good piece of writing, thank you for sharing, Never . . .

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by MechaBlade
We need a good system of welfare and progressive taxes. All possible under capitalism.

Plus, if some guy goes to college, earns his PhD, starts a company that serves millions, and does his job well, shouldn't he make more money than the assistant manager at the Gap?

You're starting to sound like 70/30 or REDWAVE with this idiotic crap that for capitalism to flourish, it must be stifled.

A good analogy would be to say that for a child to grow strong and healthy, you must supplement his diet with moderated doses of arsenic.

I never cease to be amazed at peoples' willingness to so clearly and loudly proclaim their ignorance of such basic economic concepts with such obviously blatant dichotomies.

Originally posted by Stout chap
It isn't about what I can do, it is about what we as a society can do. People don't generally like taxes, but a few extra pennies on taxes are not going to hurt anyone and they will make many benefits.

Exactly!

There's an old adage you'd do well to heed. It begins, "'Tis better to remains silent and be thought a fool ..."

Originally posted by Stout chap
Individuals care about themselves, naturally. You cannot expect people to give handouts to poorer people. What would that acheive? They are not making society any better at all. Change comes when everyone does it, and the only way for this to happen is to make them do it. If people don't pay their taxes, they are put in gaol. And so they bloody well should be, the greedy bastards.

Are you completely devoid of all contact with reality as your knowledge of economics, particularly capitalism, would indicate?

The U. S., the nation that still retains some vestigial notions of capitalism, is not only the most productive nation on earth, it is also the most generous when it comes to charitable donations.

Originally posted by teddybear4play
...Having intellect is worthless if he doesn't display it. I've rarely seen instances of that, certainly not enough to claim any kind of intelligence.

TB4p

But he displays a superb skill at reciting collectivist platitudes and fallacies.

Originally posted by Don K Dyck
Hey TB4p . . . it must be difficult . . . you never do it . . . (bit careful with the arse-kissing . . . ) Alternatively, if a six year old can do it, why can't you??

When one is capable of thinking, they need not depend on such juvenile capabilities.

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

Give me a sec to read through the history of this thread.

 

[miles]

Having your post quoted, then discredited in one of Uncle Bill's threads must feel like Mike Wallace and the 60 Minutes film crew is outside your office door.

You're fucked.

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

Whoever makes the most foots the larger share of the bill. I'm all for people being allowed to be wealthy, as it is their money, after all. But there comes a point when having starving people living alongside multi-billionaires it gets rather idiculous.

Most of the starving people are starving because of political mis-management. Places like North Korea who get lots of food aid sent to them, then sell it so they can buy arms. Or sub-sarharan Africa where Mugabe forces productive farmers off their land and gives it to his friends, who don't know the first thing about farming. Now starvation is threatening. I'm sure his wife is enjoying her "new" farm. I wonder if she remembered to plant anything.

Most of the people who are "poor" in the US are "wealthier" than most middle class people were 100 years ago. The "poor" in this country aren't threatened with starvation, in fact, they're much better off than the were in earlier times. The difference is that more people are becoming wealthy, largely because of our capitalist system. Is that a bad thing?