Can a porn story start have other complex feelings?

[shhibby]

What about a sex story that although in the heat of the moment everything looks great, but than in retrospect you realise you've fucked up! who would feel that first...

more ides to this, but what do u think

 

[LeandraNyx]

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[kisandra]

Complexity is at the heart of most emotions, and sexual feelings can be the most complex of all. Like, some people love the idea of involving a 3rd person in the bedroom, but in reality, don't like the idea of another guy touching their woman.

That's where the erotic tension can be mind boggling and the script variations endless. The idea would be create a scenario where one party is uncomfortable just a little, but not "f***ed" up, as you say.

When I'm searching for erotic porn, some of the taglines with the link sound appealing, but if I see them going straight for the full on sex, I click out and keep looking.

Can you share any story ideas?

K

 

[angela40]

Sensual

You enjoy sensuality in your stories, teasing touching, as I do. My stories go beyond that, all the way. Its all in the mood.

 

[kisandra]

Not sure if you were referring to my post, but yes, teasing, touching; physically and in a literary sense. And, yes, I'm new on here, awaiting my first story approval.

But I feel a good question to ask is:

Is there a difference between erotic and sexual writing? A clue might come from a Google search:

"Eroticism is a quality that causes sexual feelings". Note to self: feelings not actions.

Does an erotic story even have to end in sexual activity?

k

 

[LeandraNyx]

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[SeanBurns1975]

Does an erotic story even have to end in sexual activity?

Is reading an erotic story, or at least one that you enjoy, not a sexual activity in itself, from the reader's perspective?

I think you could certainly write an entire story about two people having a coffee at a crowded café and make it extremely erotic without them so much as touching. It would be such an incredible tease... and now I'm off to do that Thanks for the inspiration

 

[BuckyDuckman]

In general, I think my characters struggle with their sexual choices. Many incest stories have deeper, complex thoughts at their heart. The same with fetish stories. For example, in my story Avril's Fool, a CFNM story, the main character struggles with his sexual past through-out the story. Yes, the sex is explicit. However, I would suggest the story requires its explicit descriptions to help understand the character's choices.

I'm unsure if any of those examples answer your original question. In general, I would suggest the better stories are filled with complex emotions, including regret. Sex is a powerful motivator. I hope that helps.

 

[FortySixtyFour]

I'd say that all of the sex in erotica is the means rather than the ends. Characters wanting sex simply for the sake of having sex'll make a story fall flat. (The story falls flat, interesting description, visuals, or gimmicks can still make it work simply as a smut piece)

But without focusing on the story, getting in characters' heads and exploring the why a character may want sex, or need sex, the different views and perspectives on it they're bringing to the table and sharing with their partner(s), the obstacles they overcome, the way they use sex to communicate... is it really still erotica?

You can chew gum and it can taste great, but that doesn't exactly make it food.

 

[SamScribble]

What about a sex story that although in the heat of the moment everything looks great, but than in retrospect you realise you've fucked up! who would feel that first...

more ides to this, but what do u think

shhibby, would you like to ask your question again - in English? I have no idea what you are asking.

 

[Handley_Page]

But I feel a good question to ask is:

Is there a difference between erotic and sexual writing? A clue might come from a Google search:

"Eroticism is a quality that causes sexual feelings". Note to self: feelings not actions.

Does an erotic story even have to end in sexual activity?

k

Frankly, No, but bearing in mind that Lit is what it is, I fear you may not get much approval if it doesn't at some time.

PS. I rather think it may have something to do with "literature", but I'll not swear to it.

 

[shhibby]

Complex feelings...

shhibby, would you like to ask your question again - in English? I have no idea what you are asking.

Hey SamScribble - thanks for asking!

Been a while since I've been back, I realise i posted this question in haste before I lost the light bulb moment.

When considering the reader can you add deeper more complex relationships and feelings without it becoming an erotic piece of literature?

What is the barrier between Erotic literature and Sex stories that serve as an alternative to cum-drinking compilations?

Spanx!

 

[sr71plt]

You can write stories that fall all along the spectrum. You can have both literary and highly graphic sex in the same story. It's just a matter of including both when you write.

 

[shhibby]

You can write stories that fall all along the spectrum. You can have both literary and highly graphic sex in the same story. It's just a matter of including both when you write.

What value does the reader have in such writing? Or is this an artform?

sex story = reader orientated
erotic lit = writer orientated

 

[sr71plt]

What value does the reader have in such writing? Or is this an artform?

sex story = reader orientated
erotic lit = writer orientated

Sorry, I don't understand your question. Why wouldn't "erotic lit" be as reader-oriented as anything else? Literary isn't really a synonym for self-indulgence in any minds except for those looking down their nose at "literary." And there's no reason that readers can't be complex thinkers (and enjoy good sex at the same time).

Literary to me just means that there are fundamental-issue themes worthy of being pondered in the work. I often try to get those into my Lit. stories--as well as steamy sex.

 

[SamScribble]

What value does the reader have in such writing? Or is this an artform?

sex story = reader orientated
erotic lit = writer orientated

I'm a simple country lad (although I have lived more than half of my life in big cities) and I think I regard all fiction as, first and foremost, entertainment. So, yes, in my book, at least one reader should be entertained.

But that reader could well be the writer her/himself. I generally begin each day by reading what I wrote the previous day and, if what I read doesn't 'grab me' (in some way), there's a chance that it might get severely revised or even ditched.

So, if erotic lit equals 'writer oriented', I suggest that it might be the writer as reader as much as the writer as writer.

 

[ElectricBlue]

What value does the reader have in such writing? Or is this an artform?

sex story = reader orientated
erotic lit = writer orientated

This seems to be another one of those "is it erotica, or is it porn?" questions that keep popping up from time to time, where the answers are always the same: there's a spectrum of writing ranging from mechanical porn to cerebral erotica (with everything in between) and the shifting ingredient seems to be the amount of emotional engagement in the writing.

Reducing it to a binary equation (as stated above) is nonsensical to me. It's never this or that, it's always this and that.

 

[SusanJillParker]

I'd say that all of the sex in erotica is the means rather than the ends. Characters wanting sex simply for the sake of having sex'll make a story fall flat. (The story falls flat, interesting description, visuals, or gimmicks can still make it work simply as a smut piece)

But without focusing on the story, getting in characters' heads and exploring the why a character may want sex, or need sex, the different views and perspectives on it they're bringing to the table and sharing with their partner(s), the obstacles they overcome, the way they use sex to communicate... is it really still erotica?

You can chew gum and it can taste great, but that doesn't exactly make it food.

"Hear! Hear!"

As a longtime erotic writer, this was an awesome explanation.

Alas and unfortunately, stories with nameless and faceless characters garner more interest on this site than stories with character development, engaging dialogue, well crafted plot, true tension, vivid description, and picturesque imagery.

Seemingly when all else fails write about sex, sex, and more sex. Who cares if you don't name your characters? Who cares if you don't describe your characters? As long as you lecture to the read and tell the reader about them having sex instead of showing them having sex, you'll surely have a red H attached to your story.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Complexity is at the heart of most emotions, and sexual feelings can be the most complex of all. Like, some people love the idea of involving a 3rd person in the bedroom, but in reality, don't like the idea of another guy touching their woman.

That's where the erotic tension can be mind boggling and the script variations endless. The idea would be create a scenario where one party is uncomfortable just a little, but not "f***ed" up, as you say.

When I'm searching for erotic porn, some of the taglines with the link sound appealing, but if I see them going straight for the full on sex, I click out and keep looking.

Can you share any story ideas?

K

What you write cant be more untrue. Feelings are simple critters (mad sad slad afraid hornu). Where folks get confused is when they try and make thinks into feelings. Thinks can be confusing. But feelings are feelings.

 

[SusanJillParker]

Not sure if you were referring to my post, but yes, teasing, touching; physically and in a literary sense. And, yes, I'm new on here, awaiting my first story approval.

But I feel a good question to ask is:

Is there a difference between erotic and sexual writing? A clue might come from a Google search:

"Eroticism is a quality that causes sexual feelings". Note to self: feelings not actions.

Does an erotic story even have to end in sexual activity?

k

Nope.

Sometimes the unwritten and imagined by the reader is better and more sexually exciting than the written.

 

[Hypoxia]

This seems to be another one of those "is it erotica, or is it porn?" questions that keep popping up from time to time, where the answers are always the same: there's a spectrum of writing ranging from mechanical porn to cerebral erotica (with everything in between) and the shifting ingredient seems to be the amount of emotional engagement in the writing.

I'll repeat my triage:

Non-erotic: sex is not important to the story
Erotic: sex is important to the story
Pr0n: sex IS the story

Any auteur can make their tale(s) as simple or complex or redolent as they wish or are capable of. A straightforward fuckathon stroker can indeed plumb fine philosophical depths, or can float away in cartoonish absurdity or turgid torpor. However presented, some readers will love it, some will hate it, and most will ignore it.

Challenge: write a mechanical stroker that elicits great emotional reactions.

 

[jehoram]

What about a sex story that although in the heat of the moment everything looks great, but than in retrospect you realise you've fucked up!

It sometimes happens in stories. And, if you do it well, it doesn't hurt the story because it makes the characters more relatable.

As for "other complex feelings," my story "Ohana" ends with one of the main characters musing about lost opportunity, the wisdom that age confers, and how dreams that are thwarted one way become fulfilled in another way. That's pretty "complex" but the readers seem to have liked the story.

 

[8letters]

What value does the reader have in such writing? Or is this an artform?

sex story = reader orientated
erotic lit = writer orientated

There isn't just one reader. There's no monolithic block of readers. Almost every story will be liked by some readers and will turn off other readers. And you get paid the same regardless of the size of each group.