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[CandiCame]

So you don't now what you are talking about.

Whatever it was, it was far below normal mark-up, which is why I remember it. Not remembering every detail of a 300 page document doesn't mean "I don't know what I'm talking about". It means I'm human.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

If you recall HMOs tried the same strategy with hospitals, and the hospitals tossed the HMOs out the door.

Heres whats gonna happen. The big drug chains are gonna force the small fry outta business, then theyre gonna hoist prices and tell Obama to kiss their asses if he wants drugs.

That's funny, because I've almost always had HMOs and not once have I ever had a problem with any hospital refusing my insurance.

In fact, when my wife had to have an outpatient surgical procedure a few years ago they told us that we should thank my company for getting their employees such a great insurance plan. It was Aetna HMO, the same company that I have now through my current employer.

 

[koalabear]

Whatever it was, it was far below normal mark-up, which is why I remember it. Not remembering every detail of a 300 page document doesn't mean "I don't know what I'm talking about". It means I'm human.

Cool, it also upped your post count.

 

[CandiCame]

Cool, it also upped your post count.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[koalabear]

What does that have to do with anything?

Ask your twin, SgtGomer.

 

[CandiCame]

Ask your twin, SgtGomer.

Are you an actual Koala who managed to somehow get internet access?

 

[koalabear]

Are you an actual Koala who managed to somehow get internet access?

It free.

 

[CandiCame]

...You're alright, fuzzy buddy.

 

[Que]

So you don't now what you are talking about.

Thats an understatement. Funny how people no interest in any businesses seem to think they know something about even one.

Worked at a pizza place in my youth. I remember the waitresses commenting on how often people complained that pizza was so overpriced because all it is is a little dough, sauce and a few ingredients.

Nevermind that you got to have a 600 degree oven fired up and ready to accept that pizza all day, lights, taxes, waste from spoilage to errors, and labor from cooks to dishwashers.

Worked at an appliance and audio/video store... sort of like a Best Buy. Our single location though was bigger than any Best Buy... we were able to buy with as big of volume discount as anyone is ever going to get from the manufacturer. Mountains of refrigerators. Rooms full of VCR's. As an employee I could buy anything I wanted for cost plus 10% percent.

Interesting how often it was cheaper just to buy the floor price. Yet when people to plunk down $900 for a big screen TV they somehow think the store is keeping 800 of it instead of 50 to 90 dollars. I'm sure there is an eight hundred percent markup from the price of cotton to A custom tailored shirt... But I seriously doubt any clothing store is buying those $16 shirts for a dollar or two.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And it depends wildly on the business. But go on query keep pretending you know shit.

 

[Que]

That's funny, because I've almost always had HMOs and not once have I ever had a problem with any hospital refusing my insurance.

In fact, when my wife had to have an outpatient surgical procedure a few years ago they told us that we should thank my company for getting their employees such a great insurance plan. It was Aetna HMO, the same company that I have now through my current employer.

Perhaps you misunderstood his point. HMOs we're going to be the next big things that 500 pound gorilla that was going to make the hospitals Accept whatever HMOs we're going to dictate.

HMOs have to provide hospital coverage or I wouldn't be much of a plan. Point is the hospital told the HMOs to pound sand and pay the hospital prices. It is likely that your HMO does get slightly discounted fees for hospital services however not to the degree that the HMOs originally claimed they would be able to get. Talking marginal discounts not 10 cents on the dollar.

 

[Que]

And it depends wildly on the business. But go on query keep pretending you know shit.

Weren't you the little twerp that said I should worry about my credibility on this porn bored being at stake if I don't say things that you agree with?

Go away little boy I'm not particularly interested in your little ad hominem attacks. You got something specific to say say it..

"Saying you're wrong!" or "you're full of s***!" is not an argument, dumbass!

Complaining about word count is egregiously stupid. If it tl;dr IGNORE IT.

Look at the way ulevan frames an argument... I mean, I rarely agree with him I doubt I'm ever going to persuade an ideologue like that of anything, but he has an actual point to express.

You seem to contribute little to nothing to these discussions. When cornering asked specific questions you give a crap back like I'm not going to tell you because you're just going to say there's something wrong with what I said..

Yeah, That's what's known as debate.

If you aren't interested in debate with me and don't engage. If you want to maintain your precious credibility of porn board which is as you said the only thing you have around here.... Then refrain from making any response unless you have something specific did you wish To disagree with...And don't be a p**** sniping from the edges.

Norga first retarded comment but I don't see any reason why I shouldn't call you out by name for being an ignorant, Butt hurt little boy. You lose several arguments with me and now you say that the sidelines and snipe like anyone cares.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yep. I'm the guy who said we've only got our credibility. Is English you're second or third language cus that was a truly painful read and I read Jeninflorida and Busybody.

I honestly barely understand what the fuck you were going on about. I did however say something clear and concise. What the mark up is varies wildly from one industry to another. Maybe your pizza place was special but where I worked the sauce, cheese and toppings were the same for a medium as they were for a large and those were the expensive parts. They were making a nice mark up on the large pizzas that they could charge an extra five bucks for.

Not that you had a point to begin with.

 

[Que]

Yep. I'm the guy who said we've only got our credibility. Is English you're second or third language cus that was a truly painful read and I read Jeninflorida and Busybody.

I honestly barely understand what the fuck you were going on about. I did however say something clear and concise. What the mark up is varies wildly from one industry to another. Maybe your pizza place was special but where I worked the sauce, cheese and toppings were the same for a medium as they were for a large and those were the expensive parts. They were making a nice mark up on the large pizzas that they could charge an extra five bucks for.

Not that you had a point to begin with.

So you work for a greedy bastard that cheated his customers providing them with less cheese per square inch that's fine if your customers were stupid enough to accept that. The point was pizza don't have an eight hundred twelve hundred percent markup. If you find that either you can't discern my point because I'm obtuse or retarded just don't f****** read it dumbass.

Your little style of lying in the weeds making little snarky comment until somebody bothers to notice your whiny little s***... then going back in nitpicking about something that nobody cares about by then its just stupid.

You're seriously think that anybody finds what you write to have credibility? They might agree with you because you happen to agree with them, the preaching to the choir doesn't particularly take much skill does it? Just ask Jen.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nothing satisfy's like it....and nothing screams "You won buddy" any louder than

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Except of course you go the vette route "I'm going to iggy you b/c I just got smashed and i don't know what else to do other than to tuck tail and run." .

 

[Que]

Nothing satisfy's like it....and nothing screams "You won buddy" any louder than

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb222/aurousaurora/RAGE-3.gif

Sure for lonely sociopaths... for whom getting a rise outta somebody is some sort of moral victory.

 

[Que]

But now that Sean Renard has finally the lowered Himself to pick a debate point for me i.e.:he price of pizza and whether it's a good value...

You didn't really provide enough detail for us to know whether it was or wasn't worth the extra $5.. the area of your pizza is going to increase at the square of the radius. You didn't specify the difference in radius from your medium or large pizza.

Also either you didn't read the training guide properly or your boss was an idiot.

If your customer base was willing to accept the skimpy cheese on your large pizza you should have skipped more on your mediums as well.

Just a little hint that might help you too be able to glean nitpicking points for your fun game. Constantly hitting refresh to see whether I replied is going to give you an early draft... due to some hardware limitations I'm currently experiencing, I cannot see what I have voice to text until I hit enter and then go back and edit it. If you really want to play gotcha what you want to do is hit quote really quick before I can edit it and then point out the grammatical and spelling errors that's always fun!

On the other hand those first drafts are seriously tortured reading. So unless you're actually a masochist I would kind of tend to wait maybe go browse some other threads (there's actually some pornography in the section called amateur pics feedback you can see naked chicks over there)... entertain yourself.. have a beer come back and then argue with me.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sure for lonely sociopaths... for whom getting a rise outta somebody is some sort of moral victory.

It's not sociopaths man, I have a fully functioning variety of feelings including empathy, that is to say I'm not an actual sociopath.

But you got pwned, you're so mad about it you can barely speak English much less type out anything relevant and you turned to rage because of it. You're human, it's ok, now if you just admit you were wrong about the sun going supernova and everyone dying if Obamacare was allowed to make it this far we might even call you a grown up.

 

[Que]

Let me practice saying something really clear and concise so that I can increase my credibility.

The temperature varies widely depending on one's elevation and lattitude, the season, and the time of day.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Let me practice saying something really clear and concise so that I can increase my credibility.

The temperature varies widely depending on one's elevation and lattitude, the season, and the time of day.

If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1748645/blade-fist-pump-o.gif

 

[Que]

It's not sociopaths man, I have a fully functioning variety of feelings including empathy, that is to say I'm not an actual sociopath.

But you got pwned, you're so mad about it you can barely speak English much less type out anything relevant and you turned to rage because of it. You're human, it's ok, now if you just admit you were wrong about the sun going supernova and everyone dying if Obamacare was allowed to make it this far we might even call you a grown up.

Making it how far?

Really?? Sean's little snarky comments passes for pwnd on this board?

By Design Obamacare has been delayed so as to impact election cycles. The last thing they actually want is implementation.

I don't recall where but I'm one of these threads somebody actually said something interesting about it. They pointed out that the website in and of itself is not the marketplace.

That whatever insurance plans are currently available are available by contacting either those insurance companies or an independent broker.

They aren't affordable, but they do contain things that previously consumers who made their own informed choices elected not to purchase.

So when you say Obamacare has gotten this far how far has it gotten really other than some mandates?

It has been alleged that it has impacted hiring pactice is it seems to have had an impact on the number of hours that people are allowed to work at various places of business.. it has resulted in businesses using it as an excuse to quit offering any coverage at all.

I'd say the jury's still out.

 

[Que]

If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1748645/blade-fist-pump-o.gif

And one place setting is both the same and different.

 

[Que]

Ill give you this:

It does display weakness when one devolves an argument to name calling. However with these f******** on this board that's all they do and at some point you have to decide to ignore (they take that is victory is well) or invoke the same level of invective...you notice the boy now has left? I've noticed in the past he will needle in needle and tell you actually acknowledge him and then when you press in with any kind of specificity he slinks away.

His first stupid jibe was to imply that I'm making up the fact that I come from a family with a medical background. I was relating specific anecdotes that happen to mention in passing that. You can find my anecdote retarded irrelevant but why am I making up an anecdote? If I'm making one up then I'm a brain surgeon.

Now I could have chosen to point out the stupidity of his little dig, but then what? So I ignore and he persists twice more. I know that if this was some of the other cast of characters here I wouldn't bother and here's why because theit fallback position is hey what are you so worried about.. its just a porn bored.

However Sean and I have this little discussion the other day where he staked out this great big grand territory called credibility. And then he spent several days making no credible arguments.

So yeah I'm uncharacteristically vitriolic but it seemed amusing to me in this context.

As far as getting under my skin, uleven does a much better job of it...

He'll respond fairly directly but only partially with some directional spin on it that forces me to either, kind of slink away because now we got a whole 'nother even more convoluted harder to explain argument.

He does a pretty good job of picking and choosing what to respond to and what backspin to put on the ball. Actually find that fairly frustrating... but it's not something that justifies name calling.

Some dimwit who seems to have nothing to say telling me I'm full of s***, a response in kind doesn't offend my own internal moral framework.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Really?? Sean's little snarky comments passes for pwnd on this board?

No....

It has been alleged that it has impacted hiring pactice is it seems to have had an impact on the number of hours that people are allowed to work at various places of business.. it has resulted in businesses using it as an excuse to quit offering any coverage at all.

Can you substantiate any of this fucking bull shit with ANYTHING other than hearsay/opinion? I mean i know some places were doing that back in 08 in preparation for the evil socialist....but no one really gives a fuck about those stupid assholes.

Didn't think so...that's pwnd.

By Design Obamacare has been delayed so as to impact election cycles. The last thing they actually want is implementation.

Can you substantiate any of this fucking bull shit with ANYTHING other than hearsay/opinion?

Didn't think so...that's more pwnd.

So when you say Obamacare has gotten this far how far has it gotten really other than some mandates?

Some mandates is all any legislation is there high speed.

And they haven't gone very far. That's why it's simply too soon for either side to be talking any shit either way.

And it's up to those who don't support ACA for whatever reason (I think it's vile but I know when to lose with grace unlike most of those on the right wing) to behave like civilized human fucking beings and either enjoy the ride or get the fuck out. We got out voted plain and fucking simple, it ain't the first time and it wont be the last, it's called living in human society.

I'd say the jury's still out.

No shit....so what's with all the doom and gloom declarations that you can't back up for shit b/c you prob herd them on a fucking Info Wars piece on your lunch break??

 

[Que]

Didja see alleged? That means unsubstantiated.

You're sort of lumping me in I think with other arguments unless there something specific you'd like to cite.

So far as I've said the only reported allegations of the effect of Obamacare has been as I stated.

I even went so far as to throw you a bone by saying that the companies were using it as an excuse to drop coverage the fact that many companies have dropped coverage I assume you have some news source you like to look at... or are you unaware that companies have drop coverage and cited Obamacare as the reason? I personally I think that if we could roll everything back no one should be getting their health care from their employer what does one have to do with the other?

I get it now I'm here pwned simply means I disagree with you.

Do I'll get up from our little chairs and do victory dances with me pwn someone??

Just need to know so I fit in.

My take on Obamacare and why it's dangerous is yes it will collapse under its own weight the same way better career has and will continue to do so... the only problem with wait and see is the farthest thing burrows in the more it will be not possible to remove.

I get people here confused but as I understand that you're single payer advocate. Which is at least an honest point of view.

Pretending that Obamacare as written is going to be anything but an absolute cluster f***... seems disingenuous.

If you want to call it a necessary step on the way to single payer well fine I can at least appreciate that point of view.