Breasts. Again.

[Bamagan]

Hmm, that's an interesting point... I guess I'm just not the target audience who reads "Her boobs were real big, trust me bro" and gets excited by that Give me feeling, sensation, texture, activity, taste

Ok, I would be into an erotic story inspired by /r/ABraThatFits/

I'm now left imagining a silly SF piece where lingerie stores use Science to do 3D scans for perfectly fitted bras, then one store tries to up the game by advertising 4D scans... for an adaptive bra that predicts and adjusts for fluctuations in size based on diet, hydration, etc. But the technology is too new, and it somehow* allows users to change their decolletage at a whim. Wacky hijinks ensue as the F protagonist experiments with a variety of shapes and sizes.

*Quantum boobies?!

 

[PennyThompson]

I'm now left imagining a silly SF piece where lingerie stores use Science to do 3D scans for perfectly fitted bras, then one store tries to up the game by advertising 4D scans... for an adaptive bra that predicts and adjusts for fluctuations in size based on diet, hydration, etc. But the technology is too new, and it somehow* allows users to change their decolletage at a whim. Wacky hijinks ensue as the F protagonist experiments with a variety of shapes and sizes.

*Quantum boobies?!

Wouldn't a 4-dimensional scan take measurements through both space and time?

"Our algorithm shows that you should be wearing a 34C right now... but in about nine months you're going to need a 36D."

"What?! Why?"

"Look, it just gives us the measurements, not your life story."

 

[YmaOHyd]

I'm now left imagining a silly SF piece where lingerie stores use Science to do 3D scans for perfectly fitted bras, then one store tries to up the game by advertising 4D scans... for an adaptive bra that predicts and adjusts for fluctuations in size based on diet, hydration, etc. But the technology is too new, and it somehow* allows users to change their decolletage at a whim. Wacky hijinks ensue as the F protagonist experiments with a variety of shapes and sizes.

*Quantum boobies?!

I'm vaguely considering a Mickey Spillane story set in the world of Cyberpunk RED, where anyone with money has custom-designed robo-boobs under their artificial vat-grown skin. So they're not just 38Cs, they're 38Cs by Jinguji (the skin is by AVANTE).

 

[Bamagan]

Wouldn't a 4-dimensional scan take measurements through both space and time?

"Our algorithm shows that you should be wearing a 34C right now... but in about nine months you're going to need a 36D."

"What?! Why?"

"Look, it just gives us the measurements, not your life story."

You could certainly interpret it that way! And it would be pretty hilarious and even further into the realm of SF than I meant.

Right now, if you see something described as 4-dimensional (outside of fiction), it's usually describing a set of spatial coordinates as they change over time... like patterns of animal movement during a day, as they go from sleeping areas to feeding areas or whatnot. Sometimes those are called adaptive or predictive if they attempt to extrapolate the future from the existing dataset. That's more what I was meaning: a bra that learns how your breasts naturally vary over time and tries to compensate for that bacon cheeseburger you just ate.

But hell yes, a bra that knows the future is even funnier!

 

[Bamagan]

I'm vaguely considering a Mickey Spillane story set in the world of Cyberpunk RED, where anyone with money has custom-designed robo-boobs under their artificial vat-grown skin. So they're not just 38Cs, they're 38Cs by Jinguji (the skin is by AVANTE).

Haha, that sounds kind of horrifying! But I guess that's one possible future for plastic/cosmetic surgery...

 

[YmaOHyd]

Haha, that sounds kind of horrifying! But I guess that's one possible future for plastic/cosmetic surgery...

Cyberpunk RED is a dystopian near-future, uh, cyberpunk RPG setting that's kinda like Blade Runner three or four apocalypses deep. Ocean travel is near-impossible due to self-reproducing autonomous AI-driven sea mines; corporations have fought three or four nuclear wars; terrorists just set off a nuke in the middle of Night City, the fake-LA centerpiece of the setting. Bio-engineering and cosmetic surgery are at the point of allowing full-body complete rebuilds or full-android artificial bodies, or anything in between. It's definitely a horrifying setting, but a good fit for stories about sex plus violence.

 

[Actingup]

I know some writers specify breast size like a winning lottery number, but I've always felt that they're all wonderful and why have tried not to get sidetracked with that and the guy's size in inches. Today I received a comment on a tale I'd done some while back, Number 23. The individual was polite enough, but seems to place a lot of importance on that missing detail:

Should I be reconsidering?

Perhaps you should make a point of having the sizes change during the next story. She gets pregnant, she gains and loses weight, she gets old. Meanwhile, have a few male characters who have dicks of highly variable size and describe them in great detail, particularly on cold mornings.

 

[Abbafan]

I know some writers specify breast size like a winning lottery number, but I've always felt that they're all wonderful and why have tried not to get sidetracked with that and the guy's size in inches. Today I received a comment on a tale I'd done some while back, Number 23. The individual was polite enough, but seems to place a lot of importance on that missing detail:

Should I be reconsidering?

I would say no, especially if you're considering giving people the rundown on everyone's measurements right at the start of the story. That's a pretty good sign you're getting a certain type of story, basically the written equivalent of a porn movie, if you know what I mean.

One of my favorite writers here uses almost no physical description, which is a little too far in the opposite direction, but I think better than doing too much of it. I think it's best to focus on dialogue and action, with description there as seasoning.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I'm now left imagining a silly SF piece where lingerie stores use Science to do 3D scans for perfectly fitted bras, then one store tries to up the game by advertising 4D scans... for an adaptive bra that predicts and adjusts for fluctuations in size based on diet, hydration, etc. But the technology is too new, and it somehow* allows users to change their decolletage at a whim. Wacky hijinks ensue as the F protagonist experiments with a variety of shapes and sizes.

*Quantum boobies?!

What, we're talking breasts and there are no pictures???

 

[Rob_Royale]

You do you. Write what feels right to you.

For myself, breasts are described as full or round or a 'perfect handful'. If I'm fetishizing large breasts, I use words like prodigious or pendulous or two-hander and much attention is paid to them in the story.

I never call out a cup size.

 

[alohadave]

exactly, melon like is a good one...without saying what type of melon.

Her breasts were like watermelons, hard on the outside, squishy on the inside.

She was Japanese, and the years of training in glass cubes had given them a rectilinear shape that was simultaneously fascinating and horrifying.

 

[jehoram]

Meanwhile, have a few male characters who have dicks of highly variable size and describe them in great detail, particularly on cold mornings.

Every guy in the world who's hit puberty has dicks of highly variable size. Often in the same day.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Her breasts were like watermelons, hard on the outside, squishy on the inside.

I'm no surgeon, but I feel that's a plastic surgery complication happening.

 

[Gamblnluck]

Should I be reconsidering?

Nope, to me jiggling is more descriptive than size. I've even had to google size charts for the difference in b vs c. It has to be proportionate to the size of the woman anyway. I do describe nipples in my stories though, usually as a determination of arousal.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'll reiterate my strong "no" as an answer to the question, but with this caveat. I didn't read the story (it's 5 pages and I didn't have the time), but if during the story your description of the breasts was inconsistent, then that's a possible legitimate basis for complaint. Your critic seems to suggest that you were inconsistent, but provides no evidence that you were. I think inconsistency in description is a legitimate basis for criticism. But you're under no obligation to describe size in the first instance. It's OK not to spoonfeed the reader with every descriptive detail about the character's appearance, and let your reader fill in the blanks with imagination. This is what, in fact, most good authors do, even in erotic fiction.

Imagine a critic of Pride and Prejudice saying, "I liked it, but it bugged me that I didn't know Elizabeth Bennett's cup size. Were they A, C, D? How in the world can I get into this character if I don't know the size of her melons? Obviously, Darcy wanted to bang her, but how did the tits come into the picture? Curious readers want to know."

 

[PennyThompson]

Imagine a critic of Pride and Prejudice saying, "I liked it, but it bugged me that I didn't know Elizabeth Bennett's cup size. Were they A, C, D? How in the world can I get into this character if I don't know the size of her melons? Obviously, Darcy wanted to bang her, but how did the tits come into the picture? Curious readers want to know."

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife with big bouncy mommy milkers.

 

[SimonDoom]

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife with big bouncy mommy milkers.

I think you're on to something. The copyright has long since expired so you're free to re-write it along these lines.

 

[Actingup]

I'll reiterate my strong "no" as an answer to the question, but with this caveat. I didn't read the story (it's 5 pages and I didn't have the time), but if during the story your description of the breasts was inconsistent, then that's a possible legitimate basis for complaint. Your critic seems to suggest that you were inconsistent, but provides no evidence that you were. I think inconsistency in description is a legitimate basis for criticism. But you're under no obligation to describe size in the first instance. It's OK not to spoonfeed the reader with every descriptive detail about the character's appearance, and let your reader fill in the blanks with imagination. This is what, in fact, most good authors do, even in erotic fiction.

Imagine a critic of Pride and Prejudice saying, "I liked it, but it bugged me that I didn't know Elizabeth Bennett's cup size. Were they A, C, D? How in the world can I get into this character if I don't know the size of her melons? Obviously, Darcy wanted to bang her, but how did the tits come into the picture? Curious readers want to know."

Above is an early review of P&P, and the first substantial description of Elizabeth in the text. There are lots of comments in the book about how perceived beauty is influenced by wealth, manners, and presentation, but a consistent thread seems to be that while Jane as the eldest sister is also the prettiest, Elizabeth’s looks are enhanced by her lively personality. Of course there’s also the infamous proposal scene later where he expresses this but also outlines her defects of family and character.

 

[ronde]

I know some writers specify breast size like a winning lottery number, but I've always felt that they're all wonderful and why have tried not to get sidetracked with that and the guy's size in inches. Today I received a comment on a tale I'd done some while back, Number 23. The individual was polite enough, but seems to place a lot of importance on that missing detail:

Should I be reconsidering?

The only way breast size, i.e. dimension and cup size, is if the speaker has a valid reason for knowing that measurement. A valid reason could be that he looked at one of her bras and read the size She could be telling someone her size. It could be a bra fitter telling the girl what size she should wear. Anything else is the writer writing his or her own personal fantasy. I suppose that's fine, but I think it's pretty amateurish.

 

[SimonDoom]

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I've read the book several times and had completely forgotten this passage. It's an interesting, and I think uncommon, instance of the narrative shifting from the predominant POV of Elizabeth to Darcy. It's a good example of what we're talking about, because it leaves the reader's imagination to determine what a "light and pleasing" figure is.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Imagine a critic of Pride and Prejudice saying, "I liked it, but it bugged me that I didn't know Elizabeth Bennett's cup size. Were they A, C, D? How in the world can I get into this character if I don't know the size of her melons? Obviously, Darcy wanted to bang her, but how did the tits come into the picture? Curious readers want to know."

I mean, none of us are writing Pride and Prejudice. If you're going to write a comedy of manners, you ought to be writing about social mores, fashion faux pas, hypocrisy and morality and social status. If Pride and Prejudice didn't touch on those things, it'd be a lesser work. Boobs are irrelevant in a way they just aren't in erotica.

 

[SimonDoom]

I mean, none of us are writing Pride and Prejudice. If you're going to write a comedy of manners, you ought to be writing about social mores, fashion faux pas, hypocrisy and morality and social status. If Pride and Prejudice didn't touch on those things, it'd be a lesser work. Boobs are irrelevant in a way they just aren't in erotica.

But "erotica" is a big tent. It encompasses a lot of tastes and styles.

To give a few examples: I don't recall "Story of O" going into any detail about the protagonist's breast size. I could be wrong and maybe not remember correctly, but I don't recall that.

50 Shades of Grey might have been the most successful erotic novel series of all time. I read the whole damn thing. I don't recall a specific description of breast size.

I don't recall numerically detailed descriptions of breast size in Anne Rice's "Beauty" series.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I guess we could ask when does it work and when does it not.
Here's an example from a story I published recently about a guy with gynecomastia.

In exposition, I use this sentence where I think a specific cup size works. I actually fretted about it for a while and decided to just go with it.
---
He was asking about my breasts, my boobs, the perfect C cup titties sitting nice and proud on my chest.
---

Thought, opinions, suggestions...

 

[YmaOHyd]

But "erotica" is a big tent. It encompasses a lot of tastes and styles.

To give a few examples: I don't recall "Story of O" going into any detail about the protagonist's breast size. I could be wrong and maybe not remember correctly, but I don't recall that.

50 Shades of Grey might have been the most successful erotic novel series of all time. I read the whole damn thing. I don't recall a specific description of breast size.

I don't recall numerically detailed descriptions of breast size in Anne Rice's "Beauty" series.

Fine but:

• Nearly every work on Literotica is more sexually-explicit than most mainstream work, even highly sexualized mainstream work.
• Tarnished Penny's already writing in detail about breasts.
• There's a big difference between 'numerical detail' and a basic size descriptor.

Again, I don't think including that information is strictly necessary. But if the feedback the author is getting is that lacking that information is causing inconsistency and distracting the reader, that's worth considering, especially if you're already lavishing attention on the boobs.

Size isn't, like, a super subtle piece of information. It's one of the first things you notice. If I were to write about a car and go into detail about bodywork and the continuous line of the body arcing over the wheels and rolling around the windscreen, dipping low into the midsection and rising into a pair of wide muscular hips, and the sun glinting from the paint and carbon and chrome -- honestly, yeah, a reader would probably want to know what color it is, and they'd be right to do so.

@ShelbyDawn57 -- I'm fine with it. The speaker knows their own cup size, and if they want to think about their body in those terms that's their business.

 

[TheLobster]

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Above is an early review of P&P, and the first substantial description of Elizabeth in the text. There are lots of comments in the book about how perceived beauty is influenced by wealth, manners, and presentation, but a consistent thread seems to be that while Jane as the eldest sister is also the prettiest, Elizabeth’s looks are enhanced by her lively personality. Of course there’s also the infamous proposal scene later where he expresses this but also outlines her defects of family and character.

Not entirely on topic, but many thanks for bringing up those two pieces of prose. Like nothing else I've read recently, they convinced me you can write as if to evoke a sensation of a specific voice in reader's mind.

Not literary voice, mind you -- actual voice.

The one on the right, for example, is clearly spoken in the hitching, quintessentially British nasal tone of Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones Diary, as she delivers the comically stilted speech near the beginning that culminates in her carefully uttering the name "Fitz Herbert." How did Jane Austen manage to do that almost two centuries before that movie came out, I have no idea.

The one on the left, however... Whoever it was that's been speaking in my head, the ancient typography made it sound like he was missing several front teeth.