Bottoming from the Top, anyone?

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Just wondering if anyone wants to discuss bottoming from the Top, as something a dom/me might do?

Such as demanding to be able to worship the subs body. Ex. shaving him/her yourself, against his/her pref., and when s/he is fearful of being shaved by someone else.

Or, for example, going down on the sub for your own pleasure, especially if you lick and suck in ways you like, regardless of how the sub likes it.

Or, say, for dom/mes who are also sensation players, or masochist or pyl, demanding that the sub whip you to your satisfaction.

A last example -- having your sub give you anal.

Any thoughts about topic of bottom from top, as form of d/S?
 
Posted my thoughts in the other thread where you asked the question...the short of it is the Dominant is the one who decides how things are going to be done, unless there are previous limits set around such issues. For most, the idea is it is about serving the Dominant's needs and pleasure, and if for example they like kissing in a particular way, it is not the subs place to begin topping from the bottom by redirecting their style. They may make their feelings be know in a respectful way if that is part of the terms of the D/s, but it then is the Dominant's decision whether to take those feelings and/or preferences into consideration, or not. For most submissives, that is part of what works with submission, not being the one to control how and what happens.

Catalina :rose:
 
catalina_francisco said:
Posted my thoughts in the other thread where you asked the question...the short of it is the Dominant is the one who decides how things are going to be done, unless there are previous limits set around such issues. For most, the idea is it is about serving the Dominant's needs and pleasure, and if for example they like kissing in a particular way, it is not the subs place to begin topping from the bottom by redirecting their style. They may make their feelings be know in a respectful way if that is part of the terms of the D/s, but it then is the Dominant's decision whether to take those feelings and/or preferences into consideration, or not. For most submissives, that is part of what works with submission, not being the one to control how and what happens.

Catalina :rose:

Hi Catalina, I know the basic definition and such. Just wondered if anyone else found the topic interesting, from any aspect.

Doing things that might typically be seen as subbing, from a dom perspective. Or from the perspective of the affect/difference, if any, for the sub. Or from a dom/me, what it's like to force a sub to take a dommish role. Or, the diff between dom/mes who like to 'make' a sub feel a certain way and those who just like to play with their toy. Or....

:rose:
 
Phoenix Stone said:
Or, say, for dom/mes who are also sensation players, or masochist or pyl, demanding that the sub whip you to your satisfaction.
i've heard this called dominant masochism ... "you will hurt me, but the way i want it done."

The following, however, doesn't fit the mold of bottoming for me.

i'd call
Phoenix Stone said:
Ex. shaving him/her yourself, against his/her pref., and when s/he is fearful of being shaved by someone else.
pushing the pyl's envelope by the one the pyl should trust.

This
Phoenix Stone said:
Or, for example, going down on the sub for your own pleasure, especially if you lick and suck in ways you like, regardless of how the sub likes it.
still falls in the domain of a PYL doing what the PYL wants. Sorry, i like the taste of honey, and truth be told, watching a woman climb the walls and then continuing after she's peaked makes the sadistic side all warm and happy.

If you're speaking of penetration ... This
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A last example -- having your sub give you anal.
might be an enjoyable past time for either sex PYL. Done to the PYL's specs, this ain't bottoming on the PYL's part.

Edited for clarity and after bitch slapping the spellchecker.
 
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Ah the femdom quandary, esp. with boy subs. Or that of the gay Top, whose legacy is wisdom like a Topman never takes it up the ass.

"Do you let him FUCK you? ARRRRGH"

Sorry to disappoint the virgin amazonian Goddesses but I like a certain dick or two a lot.

And if I can't enjoy a rousing shtoop or two with abandon what's the point of having captive dick anyway?

I maintain, and always have, that behaviors are just behaviors.

I don't even care to fuck with total restraint all the time, the way a good Domme should, I imagine. *smirk* If I can't enjoy the full spectrum of my sexuality because of someone else's norms or expectations, isn't that just slavery to some stupid groupthink?
 
Yeah, I agree with Netzach. I'd say that personality defines who is top and who is bottom, not activity. Took me a little while to come to this realization, but it's true.

Daddy has brushed my teeth for me on occasion, and I love it. That might stem more from the fact that e's my Daddy, though, and as such is often a caretaker. We actually haven't done that in a while, but it was a very loving act.
 
"Foot worshipping" - subbing.

"Foot savoring" - a Dom/me's delight. Why should subs enjoy all the sensual stuff?
 
barcaboy said:
"Foot savoring" - a Dom/me's delight. Why should subs enjoy all the sensual stuff?
'specially when it doesn't require a bastinado to drive a pyl insane.

The gentlest of tongue tips along the underside of the toes between the pads and the ball of the foot requires the strongest of grips upon the victim's ankle.

You could call this Topping from the bottom up, i guess.
 
I'll chime in and say that Etoile's observation is very accurate, in that it is personality and not activity.

It doesn't matter what shots are being called, but rather who is calling them that determines dominance.
 
Yes I try to top from the bottom..Depends on the professional lady...and since I'm paying her she wants to satisfy me...For instance as a submissive, I will not cut her lawn or wash her car if she tells me to but I will lick her bottom clean if she tells me to.
So I'm selective in what orders I will obey.
She does top in deciding how much pain she wants me to suffer... I do want that.
 
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I think that can be really sexy. Also topping from the bottom could be a thing maybe. Like if a mistress wants to be plowed by a huge cock so she locks you in chastity and has you aggressively fuck her with a huge dildo. There's an infinite number of different actions and scenarios to find within the D/s dynamic if you use your imagination.

EDIT: Holy shit, this original post was made in 2004! Phoenix Stone posted this back when I was a kid. This website is historical. I hope it's around another twenty years.
 
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