Book Review: "Sex and the Soul" (slight conservative slant)

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By HARVEY C. MANSFIELD
WSJ, April 29, 2008

Sex and the Soul
By Donna Freitas
(Oxford, 328 pages, $24.95)

However high-minded their courses may sound – "Mirror of Princes," say, or "The Political Philosophy of Aristotle" – college students today enter a low hook-up culture when they leave the classroom. In case you don't know, a hook-up is a brief sexual encounter between two partners who don't necessarily know each other before and who don't necessarily want to know each other after. And it's free. The sort of transient sex that once was available to men only for money can now be had, without paying, from college women – as long as the man is a fellow student and minimally artful about his approach. If he is thwarted in one overture, he may try another with a reasonable prospect of success.

No doubt lurid anecdote and popular myth cause us to exaggerate the actual frequency of campus hook-ups: Most college students do not share in these delights. But most students also believe that "everyone does it," even if the individual student, for some reason, cannot locate a partner. Thus an active minority sets the tone and makes hooking up a "culture." When there are no sexual boundaries, either official or informal, the standard becomes the extreme, and all students feel the pressure to appear more promiscuous than they are. The traditional double standard of sexual conduct – more restrictive for women than for men – has been replaced by the single standard of the predatory male.

In "Sex and the Soul," Donna Freitas, an assistant professor of religion at Boston University, acutely describes this "liberated" campus culture and wisely analyzes its effects. She is especially concerned to measure conduct and expectation against the inner life of students, including their religious feeling or "spiritual" selves. Over and over again she finds a conflict that does not resolve itself happily.

According to one feminist professor of health – the head of a recent Harvard committee on student sexual relations – sex on campus should be "mature, respectful and life-affirming." But, as Ms. Freitas shows, it usually is not. Instead it degrades both women and men. Women lose their sense of having a choice, to say nothing of "autonomy," the supposed goal of sexual liberation. They feel compelled to offer a hook-up when they really want a date without the expectation of sex. And yet they fear "getting a reputation" for doing just what they are expected to do. "I felt a lot of regret . . . ," one female student tells Ms. Freitas, speaking about a hook-up experience. "I felt that I kind of just gave myself."

College men, meanwhile, degrade themselves by becoming callous. They behave like charmless Don Giovannis who cannot sing. They are indignant at girls who "want to spend time with guys during the day." The nerve! One young man, speaking to Ms. Freitas, concludes that it is more acceptable for girls to be virgins than boys because girls are "a more docile gender." His experience has led him to speak in generalities about women – something supposedly now forbidden – and even to discern the traditional double standard in the very practices that are intended to destroy it. The only thing he has learned from promoters of sexual liberation is to say "gender" instead of "sex."

Ms. Freitas does not celebrate this state of affairs, but neither does she spend most of her prose denouncing it. Instead she wants to understand how the hook-up culture functions and what forces might be at odds with it. Rather than confine her interviews to secular colleges, she visits religious ones, both Catholic and evangelical. The Catholic colleges, she finds, are little different from their secular counterparts; they seem "more adept at creating lapsed Catholics than anything else."

But evangelical colleges make an effort to oppose the hook-up culture with a "purity culture," asking a level of sexual restraint that would seem, for most young people today, all but impossible. One is inclined to admire the students who attempt to meet the purity culture's strict demands. But it is clear that such students often suffer deep anxiety in their search for a mate. The boys find it troublingly difficult to put off sex, and the girls are fearful that they will have failed in college if they do not get a "ring by spring" (of their senior year). While students in the hook-up culture appear more promiscuous than they are, purity students appear more virtuous than they are.

Ms. Freitas considers sex to be a yearning of the soul, not an expression of power (as feminists would have it). She thus dubs secular colleges "spiritual," noting that women in particular enter into hook-ups looking for a "relationship." Both sexes, she argues, foregather "for a reason," if not necessarily for marriage. Both would like to have a shot at the romance (from olden times) they have read about. But romance requires holding back, and no one at Ms. Freitas's "spiritual" colleges has a respectable reason for doing so.

Ms. Freitas is not afraid to use a word like "soul" because her method is qualitative, a welcome contrast to quantitative social science, with its neutral questions, narrow statistics and ignorance of philosophy. Ms. Freitas gets students to talk, listens to them and asks for their reasons for believing as they do. She passes along some interesting student phrases, too: "the walk of shame" (back to your dorm the morning after), "frugaling" (pairing off short of dating) and "yes girls" (no explanation needed).

Colleges find it risky, Ms. Freitas notes, to oppose the hook-up culture. They do not boast of it when parents visit, but they are happy to look the other way throughout the year. Their main concern is to be sure that they cannot be accused of treating men and women differently, and they do not care, or do not see, that the result of sexual liberation is a culture that does harm to the young people caught within it. "Sex and the Soul" doesn't offer an easy way out, because there isn't one. But it makes us eager for something better than the goings-on at colleges today.

Mr. Mansfield is a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution and a professor of government at Harvard.
 
Putting my cards on the table: While I certainly do not want a return to the double standard of the pre-"sexual revolution" era, I believe that young women have been the greatest victims of the sweeping away of shame and modesty that's occurred in our culture. What's the solution? Beats me. Reason and balance, I guess, but that's asking a lot of young people with hormones raging. I suspect that most of them need "guardrails" of some sort, and that's the one thing our society refuses to provide in this era.
 
Somebody round up the crew of the Enterprise, send them on a slingshot trip around the sun back to 1959 and ask them to bring Roxy home, please...
 
Somebody round up the crew of the Enterprise, send them on a slingshot trip around the sun back to 1959 and ask them to bring Roxy home, please...

You musta missed this little detail in my post: "While I certainly do not want a return to the double standard of the pre-'sexual revolution' era . . ."

Like all human institutions, shame and modesty can be abused or taken too far, but this does not meant that they are not valid and useful in the context of an enlightened and balanced suite of mores. I fear we've thrown the baby out with the bathwater in this area, and it's resulted in more pain and broken lives than "self-actualization."
 
Thank you Roxanne, for the post, the book and the synopsis.

May offer, to you , if no one else, a small, but rational, homily, gained simply from longevity?

"Things that go around, come around..."

The recipients of emancipation and the more recent sexual revolution are living the future they foresaw and fought for and plunged into.

So are their offspring, those whom, for the past generation, have been the students in those Universities of which the author speaks.

The fervent wrath, directed at my protestations of a promiscuous and valueless society, one finds on this forum and elsewhere, is indicative of the dissatisfaction adherents to the current moral climate are undergoing.

One can understand why; they have invested their most intimate and deepest psychological imperatives into it.

The moral climate is changing as we speak, as the premises of sexual egalitarianism are being challenged from the opposite direction as the pendulum swings yet again.

Have faith in human nature, my compatriot soul, the answers will emerge without either of us. We can but acknowledge and catalog the results.

:rose:

Amicus...
 
Thank you Roxanne, for the post, the book and the synopsis.

May offer, to you , if no one else, a small, but rational, homily, gained simply from longevity?

"Things that go around, come around..."

The recipients of emancipation and the more recent sexual revolution are living the future they foresaw and fought for and plunged into.

So are their offspring, those whom, for the past generation, have been the students in those Universities of which the author speaks.

The fervent wrath, directed at my protestations of a promiscuous and valueless society, one finds on this forum and elsewhere, is indicative of the dissatisfaction adherents to the current moral climate are undergoing.

One can understand why; they have invested their most intimate and deepest psychological imperatives into it.

The moral climate is changing as we speak, as the premises of sexual egalitarianism are being challenged from the opposite direction as the pendulum swings yet again.

Have faith in human nature, my compatriot soul, the answers will emerge without either of us. We can but acknowledge and catalog the results.

:rose:

Amicus...
I don't accept that "sexual egalitarianism" per se is the same thing as the absence proper shame and modesty. The pernicious double standard that used to exist was replaced by a form of egalitarianism in which the young women are expected to have the same standards as drunken frat boys. Surely we can find some better balance than that.

I disagree with you that individuals who are attracted to the same sex should have to hide their preferences in the closet. But I do believe that whatever a person's sexual preferences, promiscuity for its own sake and an absence of proper shame and modesty are not conducive to The Good Life.
 
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Ah, I see the hand extended in friendship was chomped on, no good deed goes unpunished and I note, somewhat sadly, the absence of a rose in rebuttal, such a pity.

Let us then move this discussion from the slightly personal, as I did respond and offer gratitude by name, to the impersonal and the objective.

The two issues, the 'double standard' of the first paragraph, and the 'don't ask, don't tell', controversy of the second.

With what we have learned from medical science and formal psychology, there are two separate sexes amongst homo sapiens and that there are many activities of man, some more rational than others.

In both the widely separated Kingdoms of Flora and Fauna, there are many means of reproduction, most occurring without any contact between the male and females of the species, be it fish eggs salted with fish sperm, or a dandelion puff ball that casts its seed into the future.

Few question a Lion Pride with the King and his harem, or a bovine bull selected for the quality of his seed to be passed on to future generations and none would dare apply, 'double standard' of sexual behavior.

But along comes Jones, oops, Man, and suddenly equality of the sexes becomes an issue, regardless of the nature of the beast.

Well. ladies, sorry to be the one, but your plumbing is somewhat different than we gents, as are the hormones and urges that drive us. We've known sinc Freud and before that you wish you have a penis and even go so far as to invent one with the Clitoris, which is, of course, four times more sensitive than the male organ. Imagine that.

Of course there is a 'standard' for male performance, just as there is a 'standard' for female performance. Different, not 'double' standards, boys will be boys and girls compliment that. Yell at science, not me, please.

Issue the second; the 'gay gene'; unfortunately, try as they might, the medical community cannot identify such an entity. Those foolish scientists continue to insist that homosexual behavior is a learned trait, via nurture and environment, sorry, but thas how it shakes out.

Some babies are born blind, some with prehensile tails, some are born dwarves, none are born gay.

We are still much in the learning process about the human psyche, but it is safe to say, that the inner workings of the mind are still very much a mystery to mankind. I have expressed before and still have, wonderment at a child born an idiot savant, a musical or artistic genius or a mathematical whiz kid.

As my own personal conclusions concerning human sexuality, include an amorphous sliding scale of male/female in each separate individual, it is fully within that concept that aberrations and anomalies in nature's plan may well occur.

Amicus....without a rose....
 
I disagree with you that individuals who are attracted to the same sex should have to hide their preferences in the closet. But I do believe that whatever a person's sexual preferences, promiscuity for its own sake and an absence of proper shame and modesty are not conducive to The Good Life.

I agree totally. If a woman wants to have multiple partners, annonymous sex, or even weekly gang bangs....that's her business. I'm more than happy to let someone follow whatever desires they feel will make them happy. On the other hand, I like strong, confident women (not just for myself, but I like to see them in general because it makes this a better world), and if young girls are feeling peer pressure to engage in risky and self-destructive behavior in the name of "Progressive Values", than we our doing a major disservice to our youth. Freedom of choice should remain choice...even if that includes a woman saying she's looking for more than a bunch of guys using her as a blow up doll on the weekends.
 
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even go so far as to invent one with the Clitoris,

oh, ffs...we "invented" the clitoris? Such ignorance from a grown man... :rolleyes:

ami, ami, ami.....brush up on your anatomy - either that, or good god, man...get out more!. You've said some downright ridiculous things in the past, but I think this is the winner.
 
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You musta missed this little detail in my post: "While I certainly do not want a return to the double standard of the pre-'sexual revolution' era . . ."

Like all human institutions, shame and modesty can be abused or taken too far, but this does not meant that they are not valid and useful in the context of an enlightened and balanced suite of mores. I fear we've thrown the baby out with the bathwater in this area, and it's resulted in more pain and broken lives than "self-actualization."

I couldn't pass it up, sorry.

But I do find the article to be FAR too close to some of the tones I heard from "progressive" churches as far back as the eighties. Ones whose real agenda, IMHO, was to try and seriously retard the growth of sexual expression.

if you really think that shame and modesty have been completely swept away, you are living in a far different environment than I am.

However, there is a very valid point to be made about ALL choices needing to be respected. Including someone who chooses NOT to "hook up" or be overtly sexually active.
 
My goodness gracious, Cloudy, allow me just a little poetic license in my forum ramblings, you pretty much understand my reference was to the 'aura' surrounding the announcement of the function of the clitoris.

Although 'vibrators' and clitoral massage was know intimately by gynecologists and snake oil salesmen for over a hundred years, it was accepted as a treatment of 'hysteria' in women, not as a source of sexual pleasure or gratification.

It is difficult to convince a young person today that there really was a time before computers and television sets, they just blink in disbelief. Quite so another generation which has forgotten there was a time it was thought women performed sex as a duty and only in the confines of a sanctified marriage.

Even aside from the censorship of literature, I suggest you might have to look long and hard to locate more than a handful of authors before circa 1950, that could even spell clitoris, let alone describe the location or purpose.

Although I do not read contemporary romance novels, I doubt even the explicit reference is made in popular literature to matters of such delicacy.

That, of course, is not the point anyway. Male ejaculation or climax is somewhat essential for procreation, but the female climax is not and appears to be merely superficial entertainment as the clit serves no other purpose.

There is a role for both sexes to play to complete a successful procreative event, everything else is simply foreplay as far as nature is concerned.

Perhaps previous societies and civilizations had it correct, a wife to bear children and purchased courtesans for pleasures. Not suggesting of course that the clock be turned back, but truly curious as to what the future may bring.

Not that it matters, but I call them 'Camp Girls', in my novel about early inhabitants of the American continent.

Amicus...
 
But I do find the article to be FAR too close to some of the tones I heard from "progressive" churches as far back as the eighties. Ones whose real agenda, IMHO, was to try and seriously retard the growth of sexual expression.

if you really think that shame and modesty have been completely swept away, you are living in a far different environment than I am.

On the first, I understand, but given that we are porn writers on a porn board, and also pretty much know where the other regulars here stand on various issues given all the jousting we do, we should be able to have a thoughtful discussion about subjects like this one without concern about some hidden sex-negative agenda.

Further, we should discuss things like this. We are writers, after all, and the underlying subject is what we write about (albeit with a bit more emphasis on the naughty bits than the typical romance novel). Our stories reflect our values, and surely no one here thinks a culture that invidiously puts pressure on young women to "hook up" is a good thing.

And that leads to the second point quoted, that "shame and modesty have NOT been completely swept away." The reviewed book is about college campuses. On these there is a mainstream culture and various subcultures, such as the "purity" culture mentioned, which I suspect most of us would agree is artificial and invidious in its own way - it's just as unbalanced as the mainstream culture. And that mainstream culture is the "hook up" culture: the one that makes young adults feel they must pretend to be more promiscuous than most of them really are.

No, shame and modesty haven't been completely swept away - they're just considered "unfashionable," not spoken up, not "honored," not given any reinforcement. Just the opposite on that last - they're dissed.
 
RA

Your article reminds me of my youth in Spain. The guys played pinballs, pool, and drank until they wanted sex, then they bought the sex. Females were collateral pasttimes...like eating.

I suspect females remain collateral pasttimes for most males; like the Game of the Week on tv. This is what I observe.

I believe most females have antithetical lives. That is, they organize their lives like pseudo-males, but with ulterior motives. To get babies they have to run with the guys. I'm not sold on the idea that females go to NASCAR races or football games because they enjoy car races or football. The ladies at such events always remind me of chaperones for their men.
 
Note re freitas; note to Rox

Thank you rox, for posting this:

Mansfield’s Review of Freitas, summarizing her:

//According to one feminist professor of health – the head of a recent Harvard committee on student sexual relations – sex on campus should be "mature, respectful and life-affirming." But, as Ms. Freitas shows, it usually is not. Instead it degrades both women and men. Women lose their sense of having a choice, to say nothing of "autonomy," the supposed goal of sexual liberation. They feel compelled to offer a hook-up when they really want a date without the expectation of sex. And yet they fear "getting a reputation" for doing just what they are expected to do. "I felt a lot of regret . . . ," one female student tells Ms. Freitas, speaking about a hook-up experience. "I felt that I kind of just gave myself."

College men, meanwhile, degrade themselves by becoming callous. They behave like charmless Don Giovannis who cannot sing. They are indignant at girls who "want to spend time with guys during the day." The nerve! One young man, speaking to Ms. Freitas, concludes that it is more acceptable for girls to be virgins than boys because girls are "a more docile gender." His experience has led him to speak in generalities about women – something supposedly now forbidden – and even to discern the traditional double standard in the very practices that are intended to destroy it. The only thing he has learned from promoters of sexual liberation is to say "gender" instead of "sex."//


Roxanne:
Putting my cards on the table: While I certainly do not want a return to the double standard of the pre-"sexual revolution" era, I believe that young women have been the greatest victims of the sweeping away of shame and modesty that's occurred in our culture. What's the solution? Beats me. Reason and balance, I guess, but that's asking a lot of young people with hormones raging. I suspect that most of them need "guardrails" of some sort, and that's the one thing our society refuses to provide in this era.

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Pure: I must say Freitas makes me a little uncomfortable, since she sounds next door to the Harvard chastity group. Some of her points are valid, insofar as some young women were peer presurred into so called promiscuity, esp in the 60s and maybe again now, though F says "hook up" is not all that common. Is it more common than what was called "casual sex" way back when? Our present young people did not invent the quickie, or what Jong called, a couple decades back, a "zipless fuck."

Now as to roxanne's points. I doubt there is a sweeping away of shame and modesty, even if there is an amount of casual sex. Perhaps by definition you are "immodest" if you engage in a hookup with a relative stranger. In a deeper sense, however, there is no hooking up, since neither person has revealed her- or himself. Hence shame arguably persists, even if genitals were briefly exposed.

Some of this has to do with the thesis that there is less sexual repression, since the 60s, and that engagement with internet porn represents freedom from repression. I'm not convinced of either of these. You don't become "free" either by fucking a lot, or by watching fucking a lot.
The stereotypy of porn, including much writing at Lit, suggests to me repression. Further, the flight to fantasy suggests repression; consider this scene: the voracious woman who invites in the pizza boy, gets a hot fuck and comes in a couple mins. It's a fine j o fantasy for either sex. But if one actually believes that's reality or--more importantly-- attempts to approximate it in real life, i don't think one is free of repression, but rather caught up in it. the man expecting or even insisting that the strange woman-- the hook up, in college terms-- come hard in 4 mins, is not giving fulfillment, and likely is not *getting* much. so where is this fellow's "freedom" from repression, his exuberant natural sexuality?
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As to the "double standard," that rox does not favor, and ami apparently does (this 'free thinker' usually agrees with the Pope). I do not see a problem with two roles that complement. Pursuer and Pursued. The "double standard," at the most abstract, simply says that the Pursuer has the sexual options [e.g., other partners] and the pursued does not. The enforcement of such a view is another matter, since I'm not proposing here that if the pursued commits adultery, that she be stoned.

The problem with the 'double standard' is that it's enforced according to anatomy. Amicus clearly does this. So to say, he says Pursuer is to Pursued, as cock is to cunt. Now i agree that the cunt requires special guardianship because of the pregnancy and disease problems; but those can now be pretty much dealt with.

But i deny the analogy. It is not "against nature" that there be a male pursued. It is not, further, against nature, that there be a 'house husband' or male as primary caregiver to kids.

That Pursuer and Pursued is a more abstract scheme, free of anatomy is evident in the gay and lesbian communities. In the latter, the 'dyke' is typically the pursuer. She then will guard and protect her 'capture' as the traditional male does for the traditional female. I would argue that if there is Pursuer/Pursued, or Active/Receptive, there is like double standard. Obviously some gays and lesbians have more fluid roles, or shifting ones, but my impression is that the 'dominant' and 'pursuing' persons continue to exist. These will claim sexual choices that at not considered appropriate for their opposites (submissive and pursued persons).
 
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PURE

A truly tough sell is getting people to expose themselves without their sexual, racial, family, or ethnic armor.

When I was eight years old one of my aunts bought me an awful suit of clothes to wear to school. It was red corduroy with a plaid liner. I dont know what she was thinking when she bought it. But it was destroyed the first day of use. And I killed it because of what a little girl said to me: Gimme a dollar and I wont laugh at you.
 
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Saying that women are dissatisfied with hook up culture is a bit disingenious, women were not satisfied with traditional marriage either - it's the usual right wing sexual politics, the concept being if you don't give women a choice then they'll have to take with they can get, meaning it'll be safe to take them for granted again.

There is a fundamental instability to human relationships, the grass is always greener, and the truth is people essentially go through stages: an early stage of exploration which might include a certain amount of promiscuity, followed (theoretically) by more serious and longer term relationships as one prepares for the pair bonding stage, which is fairly critical to optimizing reproductive potential, often followed by another bout of exploration for varieties sake.

Some cultures take this natural progression in stride, The French with their mistresses and lovers, the Japanese with their Geishas and lovers - others, like ours, are obsessed with the concept of possession: shared objects lose their value, value is generally associated with exclusivity rather than the qualities of a given object itself.

i.e., the paradigm is that greed and hoarding is "natural", that sharing, compassion, etc., is "unnatural", and extends from the axis of dualistic Christianity and feudalistic wealth accumulation, both of which tend to be more in line with what is thought of as a traditionally androcentric viewpoint. I'm guessing that they completely overlook the fact in this book that economic expectations play a large role in these things, and in fact political constructs typically tend to reflect adaptation to political-economic stressors

Not really sure myself, if anything, females strike me as the more avaricious sex, and male hoarding behavior largely an adaptation to it - but it may in fact not be exclusive to either sex, but simply a cultural value. In fact I'd be more inclined to term it as a value typical of pastoral/agrarian economics, when the situation happens to be urban post industrial economics, which more closely resembles hunter/gatherer (HG) economics.

Insofar as the costs, it strikes me that males and females do share the costs of the current paradigm more or less equally - there are as many men getting played as there are women, and maintaining the illusion of the exclusive pair bond as the only acceptable thing only causes confusion, and itself may well be a major source of the cognitive dissonance the book refers to - it's the thing to do when you're ready for it, but it's usually a big mistake to do it when you're not.

College kids pretty much scatter after graduation, they're often saddled with considerable debt, and required to work long hours and often move from city to city, even country to country in order to remain employed, all things which present significant obstacles to successful pair bonding - only complicated by the fact that this situation is not sexually exclusive, but a fact of life for both sexes.

Bottom line is, that for various reasons, the single income pair bond that conservative mythology cherishes is simply no longer applicable, and with it the notion of traditional pair bonding as the only game in town - you're practically signing up for impoverishment if you get married right out of high school these days, particularly if there are children in the offing, very different from the conditions that applied 30 years ago.

You can't eat you cake and have it too. For better or worse, women have been enlisted into the production economy, done to expand the labor market and keep wages and inflation under control, a largely republican/creditor concern, and now they want to deal with the resulting cultural shift with the usual mytho-hypnotism, with the predictable statistical result being another surge in the divorce rate in Ten years or so to match the surge in poorly thought out pair bonds.
 
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