BOMBSHELL, but really we knew this, didnt we?

[busybody..]

I assume

In the absense of an OBVIOUS threat

the political will is not there

 

[Traveler32]

I assume

In the absense of an OBVIOUS threat

the political will is not there

If Israel was convinced that Syria had possession of WMDs... BOOM!

Israeli reaction - or lack thereof - has always been the compelling argument for me regards Sadam and WMDs.

 

[busybody..]

using THAT logic

since Israel hasnt attacked Iran

means Iran doesnt have NUKES

 

[Traveler32]

using THAT logic

since Israel hasnt attacked Iran

means Iran doesnt have NUKES

And you're saying they do?

Osirak

And here I thought I was starting to see a more considered, less strident, tone down the rigidity of the sloganering bb...

 

[busybody..]

Do they have NUKES? I think NOT YET.

WIll they get it, are they working to get it, when they get it, will they be a threat to the US and Israel? YES!

Iraq was different then Iran

Iraq had ONE location

Iran had dozens and in civilian locations!

 

[Vashypooh]

The USA are the biggest world wide Terrorist Organization. Always have been lol. Once Bush leaves perhaps we will get a real president who can try to fix Bush's greedy agenda of profiting off of the USA war that he started. I still cant believe all these morons voted for Bush. (Not that i liked Kerry any better lol real lack of options)

 

[busybody..]

March 16, 2006 — Following are the ABC News Investigative Unit's summaries of four of the nine Iraqi documents from Saddam Hussein's government, which were released by the U.S. government Wednesday.

The documents discuss Osama bin Laden, weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda and more.

The full documents can be found on the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office Web site: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm.

Note: Document titles were added by ABC News.


"Osama bin Laden and the Taliban"

Document dated Sept. 15, 2001

An Iraqi intelligence service document saying that their Afghani informant, who's only identified by a number, told them that the Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:


That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.

At the end, the writer recommends informing "the committee of intentions" about the above-mentioned items. The signature on the document is unclear.

(Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan "consul." The date of the document — four days after 9/11 — is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value.)


"Election Campaign Laws in France"

Documents dated July-August 1999

Correspondence regarding election campaigns in France. This includes a document from the Iraqi intelligence service classified as "secret," ordering the translation of important parts of a 1997 report about campaign financing laws in France. It also includes a document from the foreign minister's office indicating the report was attached. The attached translated report included very detailed information about all the regulations regarding financing of election campaigns in France. Translation was done by someone called "Salam Abdul Karim Mohammed."

(Editor's Note: This is an intriguing document which suggests Saddam Hussein's regime had a strong interest in the mechanics and legalities of financial contributions to French politicians. Several former French politicians are implicated in receiving oil vouchers from Iraq under the U.N. Oil for Food program.)

 

[busybody..]

(Page 2 of 2)


"Hiding Docs from the U.N. Team"


Document dated March 23, 1997



A letter from the Iraqi intelligence service to directors and managers advising them to follow certain procedures in case of a search by the U.N. team, including:



Removing correspondence with the atomic energy and military industry departments concerning the prohibited weapons (proposals, research, studies, catalogs, etc.).
Removing prohibited materials and equipment, including documents and catalogs and making sure to clear labs and storages of any traces of chemical or biological materials that were previously used or stored.
Doing so through a committee which will decide whether to destroy the documents.
Removing files from computers.



The letter also advises them on how they should answer questions by U.N. team members. It says the intelligence service should be informed within one week about the progress made in discarding the documents.



(Editor's Note: This document is consistent with the Report of the Special Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence, which described a pattern of deception and concealment on the part of Saddam Hussein's government towards the U.N. inspectors in the mid to late 90's. Hussein halted all cooperation with those inspectors and expelled them in October 1998.)




"Al Qaeda Presence in Iraq"


Document dated August 2002



A number of correspondences to check rumors that some members of al Qaeda organization have entered Iraq. Three letters say this information cannot be confirmed. The letter on page seven, however, says that information coming from "a trustworthy source" indicates that subjects who are interested in dealing with al Qaeda are in Iraq and have several passports.



The letter seems to be coming from or going to Trebil, a town on the Iraqi-Jordanian border. Follow up on the presence of those subjects is ordered, as well as comparison of their pictures with those of Jordanian subjects living in Iraq. (This may be referring to pictures of Abu Musaab al Zarqawi and another man on pages 4-6) The letter also says tourist areas, including hotels and rented apartments, should be searched.



(Editor's note: This document indicates that the Iraqis were aware of and interested in reports that members of al Qaeda were present in Iraq in 2002. The document does not support allegations that Iraq was colluding with al Qaeda.)

 

[Peregrinator]

Hey, BusyBack, what's the buzz in Baltimore about the new book Cobra 2?

 

[busybody..]

Hey, BusyBack, what's the buzz in Baltimore about the new book Cobra 2?

I have no fucking idea what you are talking about



as usual!

 

[busybody..]

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY:


The government is finally getting around to unloading some of Saddam Hussein's secret documents. A look at just a few pages already leads to some blockbuster revelations.

In the early stages of the war that began three years ago, the U.S. captured thousands of documents from Saddam and his spy agency, the Mukhabarat. It's been widely thought the documents could shed light on why Saddam behaved as he did and how much of a threat his evil regime represented.

Yet, until this week, the documents lay molding in boxes in a government warehouse. Now the first batch is out, and though few in number, they're loaded with information.

Among the enduring myths of those who oppose the war is that Saddam, though murderous when it came to his own people, had no weapons of mass destruction and no terrorist designs outside his own country. Both claims now lie in tatters.


It's funny that these documents are getting so little attention from the press.

 

[Traveler32]

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY:


The government is finally getting around to unloading some of Saddam Hussein's secret documents. A look at just a few pages already leads to some blockbuster revelations.

In the early stages of the war that began three years ago, the U.S. captured thousands of documents from Saddam and his spy agency, the Mukhabarat. It's been widely thought the documents could shed light on why Saddam behaved as he did and how much of a threat his evil regime represented.

Yet, until this week, the documents lay molding in boxes in a government warehouse. Now the first batch is out, and though few in number, they're loaded with information.

Among the enduring myths of those who oppose the war is that Saddam, though murderous when it came to his own people, had no weapons of mass destruction and no terrorist designs outside his own country. Both claims now lie in tatters.


It's funny that these documents are getting so little attention from the press.

You, sir, are an embarrassment.

Not even the administration will offer up the same conclusions you so blithely embrace as prima facia evidence.

 

[busybody..]

Indeed YOU are NOT as BRIGHT as you look!

 

[busybody..]

I am guess that "diplomats" who want to protect their turf and the French Chineses and Russians who were supplying the weapons n shit to Iraq

In the misguided notion we need them for Iran

From a BLOG:

The first release by the Pentagon of the myriad Saddam-era documents and media captured during Operation Iraqi Freedom seems to have ground to a halt as abruptly as it started. The last update of the Foreign Military Studies Office Joint Reserve Intelligence Center website was on the March 17. This suggests dissension within the government. Who are the likely culprits in this snafu? The CIA, always anxious to protect its interests, and overly-cautious lawyers come to mind, but there are undoubtedly others.

Nevertheless, not to release these documents is ultimately self-destructive and actually naive. The Adminstration has already shown itself to be incompetent in the area of public relations and this only underscores that perception. The release of these documents could achieve tremendous things in changing public understanding of the Saddam regime, its ties to terrorism, its interest in WMDs and, ultimately, the public's feelings about the war itself and the salvation of Iraq. At the moment this appears to be being blocked by bureaucrats - the same ones, I wouldn't be surprised, who are likely to be whispering anonymously in the ears of our media. Let's hope the winds shift again toward full disclosure and that the rest of the documents be released for translation.

 

[Sean]

Hey, BusyBack, what's the buzz in Baltimore about the new book Cobra 2?

The Guardian have run a few excerpts this week. Last week, now. Interesting stuff.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1730254,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1729801,00.html

 

[Peregrinator]

I have no fucking idea what you are talking about



as usual!

At least you admit it this time, which is a good first step.

 

[busybody..]

At least you admit it this time, which is a good first step.

Oh, I actually misspoke

I read some parts

Ho Hum!

 

[Peregrinator]

Here, you idiot: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375422625/104-8219697-4474319?v=glance&n=283155

 

[busybody..]

Why would you call Sean an IDIOT?






















































































Excuse me Mrs Simpleton, I told you, I read some parts, and its HO HUM!

 

[busybody..]

http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf

 

[Peregrinator]

Why would you call Sean an IDIOT?
Excuse me Mrs Simpleton, I told you, I read some parts, and its HO HUM!

Some parts of the book; that's what you meant?

 

[busybody..]

Some parts of the book; that's what you meant?

yes

nothing new

I will say that taking some PARTS outa context can make it seem like there were royal fuckups

(as you know, NO plan survives past the first gun shot!)

But all in all, nothing new


Go here..................http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf

 

[Sean]

http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf

LOL, that made me laugh.

 

[Peregrinator]

LOL, that made me laugh.

You think he's showing his true colors as a moderate democrat here?

 

[busybody..]

You think he's showing his true colors as a moderate democrat here?

Dont you ever say THAT again


or

>>>>>, you http://bestsmileys.com/violent/18.gif <<<<<, me!