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busybody said:You like my new SIG LINE?![]()
who asked YOU??????????????Peregrinator said:Nope. It's still visually noisy and overdone.
Im liking you more and more all the time!ForeverNAlways said:The first one with truely conservative fiscal positions of course.
Nah, scratch that. The dems need major overhaul and the only way that is going to happen is if they remain losers long enough to be a viable opposition party.
During war though, I would be hard pressed to trust anyone from a party that believes the UN's opinions of our politics are the moral guideline to follow.
Pleeezzzzz.....
Or that the French people's viewpoint of us as a people is a serious national concern, or that..... oh, nevermind, it just ain't happening.
And by the way - was it you that made the southerner comment earlier?
Shame, shame...
Give us the link.busybody said:Good post on Free Republic on one of the documents posted without a translation. It is an Iraqi intelligence report from September 15, 2001. It states:
"1. That Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban in Afghanistan are in contact with Iraq and it that previously a group from Taliban and Osama Bin Laden group visited Iraq.
2. That America has proof that the government of Iraq and Osama Bin Laden group have shown cooperation to hit target within America."
Why wasn't this posted with a translation? Wouldn't that qualify as salient information people should know about? Sometimes I really have to wonder if all the components of the government are in this war to win it.
Blue eyesbusybody said:March 16, 2006 — Following are the ABC News Investigative Unit's summaries of four of the nine Iraqi documents from Saddam Hussein's government, which were released by the U.S. government Wednesday.
The documents discuss Osama bin Laden, weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda and more.
The full documents can be found on the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office Web site: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm.
Note: Document titles were added by ABC News.
"Osama bin Laden and the Taliban"
Document dated Sept. 15, 2001
An Iraqi intelligence service document saying that their Afghani informant, who's only identified by a number, told them that the Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:
That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.
At the end, the writer recommends informing "the committee of intentions" about the above-mentioned items. The signature on the document is unclear.
(Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan "consul." The date of the document — four days after 9/11 — is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value.)
"Election Campaign Laws in France"
Documents dated July-August 1999
Correspondence regarding election campaigns in France. This includes a document from the Iraqi intelligence service classified as "secret," ordering the translation of important parts of a 1997 report about campaign financing laws in France. It also includes a document from the foreign minister's office indicating the report was attached. The attached translated report included very detailed information about all the regulations regarding financing of election campaigns in France. Translation was done by someone called "Salam Abdul Karim Mohammed."
(Editor's Note: This is an intriguing document which suggests Saddam Hussein's regime had a strong interest in the mechanics and legalities of financial contributions to French politicians. Several former French politicians are implicated in receiving oil vouchers from Iraq under the U.N. Oil for Food program.)
The whole case for going to war was built around the assumption that Saddam Hussein was lying to the world. They can't claim now that he was telling the truth.SeanH said:Hey BB, a question. If these docs really are the smoking gun, why aren't we seeing Scot McClellan or Bush stood up there screaming "We told you so!" at the top of their voices?
Dont knowBlueEyesInLevis said:I noticed from the http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm site a list of docs. As I scrolled through them I came across this.
2002 Iraqi Intelligence Correspondence concerning the presence of al-Qaida Members in Iraq. Correspondence between IRS members on a suspicion, later confirmed, of the presence of an Al-Qaeda terrorist group. Moreover, it includes photos and names.
The doc link however only showed the original in hand written arabic with some photos of individules. ISGZ-2004-019920
Where can I find the translation of that document and who the individules were?
He also has MANY links to other Iraqi blogsbusybody said:Dont know
You will have to take the word of the ABC translators, I guess
You may wanna go here
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
he is an Iraqi
his site has much more links.........he translates a whole bunch
He was in the US once. You know he is good, cause the LIB MEDIA shit all over him!
They dont have toSeanH said:Hey BB, a question. If these docs really are the smoking gun, why aren't we seeing Scot McClellan or Bush stood up there screaming "We told you so!" at the top of their voices?
Reasonable question. My guess is, theres a lot to suggest the connection but in the mass of docs, they havent found the smoking gun yet and are worried it was destroyed.SeanH said:Hey BB, a question. If these docs really are the smoking gun, why aren't we seeing Scot McClellan or Bush stood up there screaming "We told you so!" at the top of their voices?
Talk about SPIN!phrodeau said:The whole case for going to war was built around the assumption that Saddam Hussein was lying to the world. They can't claim now that he was telling the truth.
They WERE there...he moved them to Syria. They didnt just disappear and go *POOF*!busybody said:Truth is
those allegations never had one shred of evidence
it was a mantra made up
at worse, he was MISTAKEN on WMDs based on advice he got from the CIA
that is hardly a lie