Bisexuality - men vs women

[Guest]

I get the impression from my friends and from this forum (and from media too) that women are more open and less paranoid about sexual feelings towards the same sex than men. Am I wrong? I know there isn't any physical or statistic reason women should be more bisexual than men... but that is just the impression I get.


I'll use myself as an example. I've always considered myself 100% heterosexual. I have no sexual experience with other men. But when i watch erotic movies cocks excite me. Yes, they do. Unless it's a gay movie. So there has to be a women there, and from that I think I can conclude I'm not bisexual. But I'd migth do something sexual with a man if I participated in a threesome. Anything including playing with his cock gets me excited when thinking about it. But not anal or kissing (and certainly not falling in love), only sucking/playing with his cock, when there is a woman present. That's where the thrill is, the woman is the mental part of it, the cock is the physical part. Both have to be there to make it right. But I still don't consider myself bisexual because of this.

Well, enough about me. From what i have heard and seen, more women do the kissing part that guys never do, and some of my friends are 100% convinced that most women have more bisexual experiences than men. I'm aware that this is also a question about how you define bisexuality, where you draw the line. But what I'm trying to focus on is:

Do women in general have more bisexual tendencies than men?


I myself don't really know what to believe, I know how I define my own sexuality (hetero), but I don't know how YOU would define it from what I've told you. I don't expect you guys to have all the answers, but I'm curious to hear what you believe regarding my question.






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and please excuse my bad english
John

 

[heterotic]

There's a thread in personals with quite a bit to say about part of that, entitled "If a man sucks a cock, does that make him gay?"
As for the main thrust of the question (if you'll pardon the pun) I think men have just as many bi tendencies as women, but society teaches us to repress, ignore, and consider them "bad" much more.

 

[KillerMuffin]

From what I gather women are all supposed to be bisexual and men are all supposed to honor the 3 foot no cock zone. This is of course a propagandist lie perpetrated by a group of squeamish males who think that they'll shed their reproductive capabilities if they made eye contact with another cock, let alone touched it.

I'm all for it, though.

 

[lobito]

From what I gather women are all supposed to be bisexual and men are all supposed to honor the 3 foot no cock zone. This is of course a propagandist lie perpetrated by a group of squeamish males who think that they'll shed their reproductive capabilities if they made eye contact with another cock, let alone touched it.

I'm all for it, though.

Well slap my ath, and call me bruth.

I'm not gay nor bi, but I don't mind flirting with the guys here, it's all in fun anyway. However I have NO problem admitting that in fantasy, I'd be willing to do just about anything. Don't mind seeing a cock, though they really don't do much of anything for me personally.

Also, if I was in a situation fo a MMF 3some, most likely wouldn't have a problem having the other mans cock touch me. Doesn't mean I want it inside of me, it just means that I'm secure enough in my masculinity.

Lo

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

From what I gather women are all supposed to be bisexual and men are all supposed to honor the 3 foot no cock zone. This is of course a propagandist lie perpetrated by a group of squeamish males who think that they'll shed their reproductive capabilities if they made eye contact with another cock, let alone touched it.

I did grow up with the cultural taboos, but it has very little to do with my not being bi/homosexual - I just don't have that attraction to the male body.

I know you are being rhetorical, but I have never said any such thing, and if I had an attraction to the male body I wouldn't be squeamish about it, although I would probably be more circumspect about letting anyone know I had that attraction than I would if I were a woman.

There is certainly a much greater cultural and societal taboo on male homosexuality and bisexuality than there is for the female bi/homosexuality. The reasons are multiple, but I believe the two main ones have been expressed recently:

1) Most males are very excited by female bi/homosexuality, in part possibly because they think that they may be able to get in on the action, in part because they are excited by the female body and would like to be doing what the women are doing.

2) Because the religions, cultures and societies that create/enforce the taboos are paternalistic.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Then you fall safely outside of that group of squeamish males who think that they'll shed their reproductive capabilities if they made eye contact with another cock, let alone touched it.


It's not all inclusive. It's one of those you decide it you're in it or not cliques.

 

[rambling man]

I agree with the person who said they are not interested in the ale body, I think we men are ugly....but if i am in an MMF 3some and the F wanted a little play between the men, I think I would do it

 

[monster666]

I agree with the person who said they are not interested in the ale body

Interesting typo. Personally, I like a good body on an ale. Or a wine, for that matter.

 

[cherrypi28]

i have never been involved in any kind of male/male situation, but it does excite me....i wish more men were secure enough to play like bi women do.....but hey here's to wishing

 

[rambling man]

just wondering if you are getting my pms or if im doing it wrong

 

[cherrypi28]

i did respond did you not get it???

 

[nasty]

Some men just don't like to be labed "Gay," even if, technically, they're not.

 

[rambling man]

my pm inbox is still empty...wonder if there is some problem there tonight....

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Some men just don't like to be labed "Gay," even if, technically, they're not.

Nasty, what the fuck are you on?

Explain yourself.

 

[SpectreT]

I'm a guy.

That said, I'd add that there are some societal presures that make female homoeroticism slightly more likely than male homoeroticism (I'm talking like 4 or 5 percent difference range). To a certain extent, the female body is rendered as the epitome of sex and sensuality, women are erotic, and this attitude is reflected in so many ways in this (American) culture that a certain amount of interest in all people toward women is nearly inevitable.

That's also partly, and more deeply, a reason that female bisexuality is more accepted (not much, in some quarters) than male bisexuality. If one woman is erotic, then two are doubly so, and there's also a subtle level of reinforcement to male heterosexuality there: "Hey, look! Women can't even keep their hands off each other! What chance do we males have against their charms, then?"

I'm wrestling with some (relatively) minor gender issues of my own; let me just say that cocks turn me on, but men don't.

Mostly.

(DISCLAIMER: This post was largely opinion; the percentage cited was merely gut instinct estimation, and not indicitive of any research on my part. Flames will be cheerfully either ignored or ridiculed, depending on the merit and intelligence of the Flame-er. No Pun intended.)

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

Then you fall safely outside of that group of squeamish males who think that they'll shed their reproductive capabilities if they made eye contact with another cock, let alone touched it.

It's not all inclusive. It's one of those you decide it you're in it or not cliques.

Okay KM (and anybody else who wants to participate) - which of these images do you think the majority of people like better? The FF or the MM??

http://www.richards-realm.com/rosenoire/images/hoau17a.jpg

http://www.richards-realm.com/rosenoire/images/lejl19c.jpg

 

[Moridin187]

It's a mix of several things..

Testosterone.. Yes, everyone's favorite hormone, the one that says "Fuck it or kill it." Men think we're supposed to be fucking as many women as we can, and guys who Don't try to fuck every women they can have something "wrong" with them.

Masculine Insecurity - Guys are afraid of being gay. They're afraid of other gay guys, because they fear that they might somehow be opened up to this alternate avenue of life and "turned" gay. Thus they hate what they fear.

Fear of Ostracism - Dunno why, but lesbians Are more accepted. Sure, there are people who hate both ends of the homosexual spectrum, but when people talk about "killing the faggots" they're usually talking about the guys.

Parental Values Passed On - Yer daddy taught ya fags were bad, and being queer was a sin. Thus fags must die.

General Moronism - All gay men are overly promiscuous, carry AIDS, are child molestors, and are constantly trying to turn all Other men gay.


These are some of the reasons I've observed in our culture. I'm bisexual (but I'm even more picky about guys than I am about women, which is saying a LOT) and I've never even told my best friend (Who I feel no attraction to) for fear that he'd hate/fear me, and that we'd lose some of the bond we have.

 

[heterotic]

SpectreT: Incisive and illuminating, the acceptance of female bisexuality as a product of general emphasis on female sexuality was an angle I hadn't considered.
But how did the emphasis on female sexuality get there?

And, Shy Tall Guy, I don't think it's quite a fair contest, the FF is a superb picture, the MM is merely quite good

 

[lobito]

Okay KM (and anybody else who wants to participate) - which of these images do you think the majority of people like better? The FF or the MM??

What does the majority have to do with this? It's an INDIVIDUAL thing here.

Lo

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

What does the majority have to do with this? It's an INDIVIDUAL thing here.

No it isn't; the original question was "Do women in general have more bisexual tendencies than men?" - which doesn't sound to me like a question about individuals but about women vs. men in general. That is what most of the discussion has been about.

Individuals are all going to be different.

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

And, Shy Tall Guy, I don't think it's quite a fair contest, the FF is a superb picture, the MM is merely quite good

Sorry - I have no feel for what is exciting in MM sex so I tried for similar topics; oral sex.

 

[seXieleXie]

alright stg, that's it. you're going to have to go on ignore. my poor deprived sex drive cannot take this kind of abuse.

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

alright stg, that's it. you're going to have to go on ignore. my poor deprived sex drive cannot take this kind of abuse.

Okay people - you heard her; we are going to have to rate our threads and posts so Lexie can turn away lest she become too excited:

G for General Audience - okay for seXieleXie
PG - okay for seXieleXie
R - okay for seXieleXie
X - okay for seXieleXie
XXX - warning for seXieleXie - she may find this post/thread exciting

seXieleXie - Not okay for seXieleXie; way too exciting for a young college student who needs her sleep (and to get laid ).

 

[heterotic]

Good point, Shy Tall Guy. Is the FF really more exciting, or is it just me?
Plus, are pics an accurate rating? I've only met somewhere around one male in my entire lifetime that I had something like romantic feelings for, but those feelings were (and still are) quite significant, ranking among my strongest for those of the other gender.
Rating levels of bisexuality and bisexual acceptance is a tough one.

 

[Guest]

I bet you could find MM pics that most men would find more exciting than a certain FF pic. But don't we all do have these tendencies, right? It's just a matter of how much we explore them and what we dare to try out...