Basically everyone is angry at the GOP

[renard_ruse]

Since the rumors of shutdown began, the percentage of people angry at President Obama has jumped 3 points; the percentage blaming Democrats, 5 points; the percentage blaming Republicans, 11 points.

It's roughly the same if you ask whether people "strongly disapprove" of how the players are handling themselves. Respectively, those numbers have jumped 4 points, 8 points, and 12 points...

You really think that's a major political victory? I thought the whole Democrat strategy in shutting down the government was to get the people to place all blame on the Republicans and basically destroy the party. After the media constantly pimping the theme that the "Republicans shut down the government," I think its at best a hollow victory with those kinds of numbers. I might even call it a major failure. Certainly no KO, and certainly a misleading title to your thread.

 

[renard_ruse]

If the liberal Republicans hadn't spent their time going on the attack against others in their own party and had instead hammered home the message that they were willing to fund everything except Obamacare, this could have been a major victory for them. The Democrats took a major gamble and damn near lost.

If the GOP had presented a united message and bought a half an hour block on network TV to present their side of the argument, they could have scored a major victory here. Political ineptitude on both sides.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You really think that's a major political victory? I thought the whole Democrat strategy in shutting down the government was to get the people to place all blame on the Republicans and basically destroy the party. After the media constantly pimping the theme that the "Republicans shut down the government," I think its at best a hollow victory with those kinds of numbers. I might even call it a major failure. Certainly no KO, and certainly a misleading title to your thread.

*points and laughs at not-Republican Retard Ruse*

Only on Planet Retard is the government shutdown a "Democrat Strategy".

You, AJ and Vetty have been pushing that odious revisionist meme for two weeks, and to your utter shock, virtually nobody is buying your snake oil.

Better luck next smear!

 

[Sean Renaud]

If the liberal Republicans hadn't spent their time going on the attack against others in their own party and had instead hammered home the message that they were willing to fund everything except Obamacare, this could have been a major victory for them. The Democrats took a major gamble and damn near lost.

If the GOP had presented a united message and bought a half an hour block on network TV to present their side of the argument, they could have scored a major victory here. Political ineptitude on both sides.

Not a chance in hell.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If the liberal Republicans hadn't spent their time going on the attack against others in their own party and had instead hammered home the message that they were willing to fund everything except Obamacare, this could have been a major victory for them. The Democrats took a major gamble and damn near lost.

If the GOP had presented a united message and bought a half an hour block on network TV to present their side of the argument, they could have scored a major victory here. Political ineptitude on both sides.

Still clingin' to that "it's all about teh optics" derp?

"If only we messaged a little better"?

Newsflash: This manufactured "crisis" has only proven that defunding Obamacare is the pet cause of a very very small slice of the American populace.

No more "do overs" on Obamacare.

We beat you.

America won. You lost. Seek grief counseling if you must, but I urge you to deal with your loss.

 

[Wyldfire]

Since the rumors of shutdown began, the percentage of people angry at President Obama has jumped 3 points; the percentage blaming Democrats, 5 points; the percentage blaming Republicans, 11 points.

It's roughly the same if you ask whether people "strongly disapprove" of how the players are handling themselves. Respectively, those numbers have jumped 4 points, 8 points, and 12 points.

Washington Post / ABC News poll data

Full citation please? Source besides the one stated? Is it Fox BS or is it MSNBC BS? One source does not confirm a source. If you cannot provide at least three sources it is not considered accurate.

College 101 please? I mean really, I could place an editorial in the Huffington with the confirmation you've provided. Is that really valid?

 

[Wyldfire]

Full citation please? Source besides the one stated? Is it Fox BS or is it MSNBC BS? One source does not confirm a source. If you cannot provide at least three sources it is not considered accurate.

College 101 please? I mean really, I could place an editorial in the Huffington with the confirmation you've provided. Is that really valid?

And yes I would say this to the conservative side as well. I want the facts before you spew out of your shitpipe.......

 

[RobDownSouth]

Full citation please? Source besides the one stated? Is it Fox BS or is it MSNBC BS? One source does not confirm a source. If you cannot provide at least three sources it is not considered accurate.

Awwww, look at the little derpette tryin' to move the goal posts!

Got a source? yes? I need three!

Got three sources? Yes? Um, I'm gonna need five.

Welcome back my friends to the derp that never ends.....

 

[RobDownSouth]

And yes I would say this to the conservative side as well. I want the facts before you spew out of your shitpipe.......

Sure you would.

Suuuuuure you would.

:nods:

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Full citation please? Source besides the one stated? Is it Fox BS or is it MSNBC BS? One source does not confirm a source. If you cannot provide at least three sources it is not considered accurate.

College 101 please? I mean really, I could place an editorial in the Huffington with the confirmation you've provided. Is that really valid?

I cited the poll data, you're free to dispute it if you like. Three citations? This isn't a fucking college term paper, it's a Message board.

Take a look at the data if you have an issue. The fact that you're playing this game is likely because you couldn't find a source (other than Cruz's poll) that deviates from this.

 

[richard_daily]

I cited the poll data, you're free to dispute it if you like. Three citations? This isn't a fucking college term paper, it's a Message board.

Take a look at the data if you have an issue. The fact that you're playing this game is likely because you couldn't find a source (other than Cruz's poll) that deviates from this.

What college term paper asks for three sources for every piece of data?

Sounds like one appalachian hasn't made it out of grade school.

 

[jeninflorida]

What college term paper asks for three sources for every piece of data?

Sounds like one appalachian hasn't made it out of grade school.

imagine if the government shuts down ... what will you do for income when the welfare train shuts down?

 

[jeninflorida]

Full citation please? Source besides the one stated? Is it Fox BS or is it MSNBC BS? One source does not confirm a source. If you cannot provide at least three sources it is not considered accurate.

College 101 please? I mean really, I could place an editorial in the Huffington with the confirmation you've provided. Is that really valid?

UD loves the Socialist MSNBC network

 

[richard_daily]

imagine if the government shuts down ... what will you do for income when the welfare train shuts down?

Live comfortably on my investments.

What will YOU do?

 

[KingOrfeo]

You really think that's a major political victory? I thought the whole Democrat strategy in shutting down the government was to get the people to place all blame on the Republicans and basically destroy the party.

No the Democratic strategy was not to shut down the government.

 

[KingOrfeo]

If the liberal Republicans . . .

You are referring to an extinct breed.

 

[BiMWM31791]

Basically everyone is NOT everyone...Tired of having liberals telling me how I am supposed to feel.. The POTUS is 100% to blame, in my opinion....

 

[bronzeage]

Basically everyone is NOT everyone...Tired of having liberals telling me how I am supposed to feel.. The POTUS is 100% to blame, in my opinion....

Liberals are not telling you how you are supposed to feel, but if you are satisfied with the performance of elected Republican officials, you are basically alone.

 

[phrodeau]

Basically everyone is NOT everyone...Tired of having liberals telling me how I am supposed to feel.. The POTUS is 100% to blame, in my opinion....

House Republicans want to dismantle the ACA.

The ACA is a law.

Dismantle means to break.

House Republicans want to break the law.

 

[dan_c00000]

I just asked my dog and she also is angry at the GOP.

Is your dog brown? Cause she's already a girl so a brown female dog...the GOP must hate her.

Also are you sure your dog isn't jenn?

 

[richard_daily]

Also are you sure your dog isn't jenn?

Stop insulting his dog.

 

[tactful]

House Republicans want to dismantle the ACA.

The ACA is a law.

Dismantle means to break.

House Republicans want to break the law.

Alas, that's where they fucked up, the Republicans should have just sat back and watch the whole ACA fuck itself up, because you know who's gonna get really fucked by this, the Middle classes, must have been Politicians thinking, again.

 

[bronzeage]

Alas, that's where they fucked up, the Republicans should have just sat back and watch the whole ACA fuck itself up, because you know who's gonna get really fucked by this, the Middle classes, must have been Politicians thinking, again.

If the GOP really thought it was going to fail, that's what they would do.

Their greatest fear is it will succeed. They'll be stuck in another 50 years as minority party and have to wait for another Dwight Eisenhower before they ever again see the inside of the White House.

 

[1sickbastard]

Since the rumors of shutdown began, the percentage of people angry at President Obama has jumped 3 points; the percentage blaming Democrats, 5 points; the percentage blaming Republicans, 11 points.

It's roughly the same if you ask whether people "strongly disapprove" of how the players are handling themselves. Respectively, those numbers have jumped 4 points, 8 points, and 12 points.

Washington Post / ABC News poll data

So you're point is that the people think both parties are shit but one is slightly less stinky. Yay for them.

Elections have consequences. Get off your ass and do something about 2014.

That's more than a year away. By then we'll have more huge piles of shit for people to argue about which one smells less.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So you're point is that the people think both parties are shit but one is slightly less stinky. Yay for them.

It's enough. To win elections, you don't need to be perceived as a good choice, but only as the better or least-bad choice.