Avoiding repetition when describing sex

[Bubo_bubo]

Many excellent pieces of advice above. However, I would just add that there are times when repetition, particularly in dirty talk, is just what is needed. Either when one wants to be really filthy, e.g.:

Cat shrieked with laughter, taking Alison's cue and joining in the fuck-talk so Alison could go back to sucking Bruce off. "Yeah, Doctor boss Taylor, stick your fucking finger in that 'grey area'. Go on, probe her pretty little student shitter with your finger, Doc. I bet you could even fit two in there, or three!" The doctor didn't need much encouragement, sliding first his middle finger, then his index finger, then both into Alison's squelchy asshole, then a third finger, and then frigging all three them in and out of her gape, whilst still fucking her cunt with his rock-hard dick. A symphony of obscene noises filled the air: the squelch of cock fucking cunt, the dirty little wet poopy farts of fingers in asshole, the slurp of Alison's mouth up and down Bruce's cock, the wild slobbering of Bruce's tongue in the nurse's cunt, and of course Cat's fuck-talk, which had reached new heights of depravity and expertise: "You like eating my hot juicy fuck-hole, Bruce? You like feeling your cock deep in that college girl's mouth? And which is better, Doc -- fucking that hot juicy cunt with your cock, or ramming your fingers into her dirty stinking shithole?" Cat clearly knew which aural buttons to press with her boss. "'Coz you like asshole, don't you, Doc? You'd love to ream out that filthy shit-cunt with that rod of yours, wouldn't you? Go on, Doc, take that cock out of her cunt and shove it deep in her poop-chute. Let me hear the filthy squelch of your cock back-shitting her rectum. Go on, Doc, I won't tell anyone! (Alison Goes to London Ch. 03)

or ironic, e.g.:

The Queen shifts her bottom backwards, till her soft cheeks are pressed up against the warm surface of the Mirror, and she feels her anus winking cheekily against the glass. "O fuck, O yea, O behold, O fuck ye fuck ye," groans the Mirror in pleasurable ecstasy. The Queen feels something soft, wet and flexible caressing her brown hole, hears the Mirror slurping and slobbering as it casts all decorum to one side and moans in anilingual ecstasy: "O shit, O fuck, O scrummy cunting arsehole, O yea, O let me eat thy fucking arse, O Queen, let me plunge my Tricksome Tongue deep in that filthy fucking shithole."
"My Motherfucking Minion, my Butteating Bondsman," replies the Queen, "stick thy finger in there, do! Pinky-penetrate my Paramount Pungent Posterior!"
"FUCK YEAAAA!" yells the Mirror in lustful desperation. "Feel me finger-fuck that Filthy Fundament, Majesty! Not just one, not two, but three invisible Fucking Fingers in that Regal Rectum, that thy August Anus may gape O-glorious for my pleasure!" (The Princess and the Cuntsman, or, Snow White and the Seven Dildos)

or both, e.g.:

Well, cumwhore, if you want to learn to be a proper writer like me, you'd better gain a bit more versatility with your vocabulary, hadn't you?
I mean, what kind of writer-slut are you if you can't be an analogy-whore? So, on your knees, bitch. Wipe some of that fuck-word-goo on the entrance to your puckered outbox, and you might just be able to squeeze a word in edgewise. If not, I might just have to come over and ram my whole stiff fucking message in there and make you scream words you didn't even know you knew. (Fuck Talk)

And to show you can't please everyone all of the time, none of those feel particularly erotic or arousing to me. Funny, yes, maybe. Hot? No.

 

[jehoram]

Speaking of verbiage to describe sex and genitalia, I'm writing a story to be set in the 19th century, as if the character was actually writing the story at that period at the end of that century. Somebody once posted a list of archaic terms for the topic, but like a fool, I didn't bookmark it. If you were more clever than I am and did so, could you refer me to that contribution?

 

[NotWise]

Speaking of verbiage to describe sex and genitalia, I'm writing a story to be set in the 19th century, as if the character was actually writing the story at that period at the end of that century. Somebody once posted a list of archaic terms for the topic, but like a fool, I didn't bookmark it. If you were more clever than I am and did so, could you refer me to that contribution?

You might be thinking of the detailed timeline of English-language sexual slang that Jonathan Green distilled from Green's Dictionary of Slang.

The timeline was a great resource, but it was taken down. There was some stated intention to put it up again with a different interface, but I haven't seen that happen.

The whole of Green's Dictionary of Slang is online. You might be able to find what you want there, or some searching might get you to the timeline.

 

[GrushaVashnadze]

And to show you can't please everyone all of the time, none of those feel particularly erotic or arousing to me. Funny, yes, maybe. Hot? No.

Thankfully, hotness is in the ass of the beholder - which is why smut can encompass such a wide variety of styles and subject matters. "Fuck-talk" is a kink (perhaps even a fetish?) which some people (myself included) adore, as much as others prefer bondage or leather or tentacles. But you are right that often the best dirty-talk can be self-referential, ironic and satirical - so I am taking your verdict of "funny, yes, maybe" as a cautious compliment...

 

[Bubo_bubo]

Thankfully, hotness is in the ass of the beholder - which is why smut can encompass such a wide variety of styles and subject matters. "Fuck-talk" is a kink (perhaps even a fetish?) which some people (myself included) adore, as much as others prefer bondage or leather or tentacles. But you are right that often the best dirty-talk can be self-referential, ironic and satirical - so I am taking your verdict of "funny, yes, maybe" as a cautious compliment...

You're certainly not a bad writer.

 

[Magineer]

The elephant in the room here is the broad assumption that the sex has, "of course", to be the be all and end all of erotic writing... which tendency sums up the majority of Literotica membership fairly neatly.

I suspect nevertheless there may be others here who, like me, find that almost all the fun of writing lies in the build-up, the scene setting and pretty well the whole effort of imagining something just a bit different.

Indeed... of course, the alternative casual assumption made in this thread, probably unremarked by most of the contributors, is that all of that imaginative scene setting and plot invention you mention has 'of course' already been achieved... such that the only troublesome matter left is the tiresome business of not repeating oneself in the description of the sex.

Yeah... right... as if...

 

[yowser]

Speaking of verbiage to describe sex and genitalia, I'm writing a story to be set in the 19th century, as if the character was actually writing the story at that period at the end of that century. Somebody once posted a list of archaic terms for the topic, but like a fool, I didn't bookmark it. If you were more clever than I am and did so, could you refer me to that contribution?

If you're doing English Victorian times, a fabulous example is 'My Secret Life.' My vocabulary multiplied only after a little sampling.

 

[AlexBailey]

Metaphorically speaking:

In western music theory there are only twelve notes, repeated over several octaves. Those twelve notes are used in limitless variety of timing and instrumentation to create vastly different songs, moods, and soundscapes, limited only by the immagination of the composer and the skills and resources of the performer.

Some composers only make music they think will be popular, others have an ear for a wider variety of sounds and themes. Most music contains some repetition regardless if it's Elvis, Miles Davis, Beethoven, and Mozart.

 

[SimonDoom]

Metaphorically speaking:

In western music theory there are only twelve notes, repeated over several octaves. Those twelve notes are used in limitless variety of timing and instrumentation to create vastly different songs, moods, and soundscapes, limited only by the immagination of the composer and the skills and resources of the performer.

Some composers only make music they think will be popular, others have an ear for a wider variety of sounds and themes. Most music contains some repetition regardless if it's Elvis, Miles Davis, Beethoven, and Mozart.

I like thinking of it this way, because what I think you've rightly pointed out is that mathematically with a relatively small number of elements you can nevertheless come up with almost limitless combinations of those elements. You're never going to run out of new ways to say something, even with a relatively limited vocabulary. So, don't worry about it. Pay attention to your words and focus on choosing the right word, not necessarily a different one.

 

[yowser]

I like thinking of it this way, because what I think you've rightly pointed out is that mathematically with a relatively small number of elements you can nevertheless come up with almost limitless combinations of those elements. You're never going to run out of new ways to say something, even with a relatively limited vocabulary. So, don't worry about it. Pay attention to your words and focus on choosing the right word, not necessarily a different one.

Another metaphor comes from organic chemistry. Hydrocarbons? Only two elements, carbon and hydrogen, but my word, the possibilities are staggering.

 

[SimonDoom]

Another metaphor comes from organic chemistry. Hydrocarbons? Only two elements, carbon and hydrogen, but my word, the possibilities are staggering.

Chemistry was never my best subject, but it seems like a great analogy to me.

 

[jehoram]

You might be thinking of the detailed timeline of English-language sexual slang that Jonathan Green distilled from Green's Dictionary of Slang.

The timeline was a great resource, but it was taken down. There was some stated intention to put it up again with a different interface, but I haven't seen that happen.

The whole of Green's Dictionary of Slang is online. You might be able to find what you want there, or some searching might get you to the timeline.

Thanks for the tip, but all those links are dead ends, and a search for the term "Green's Dictionary of Slang" didn't turn up anything.

But I'm 99% sure that what I read was something posted by a Lit author.

 

[jehoram]

If you're doing English Victorian times, a fabulous example is 'My Secret Life.' My vocabulary multiplied only after a little sampling.

Thanks!

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

Another metaphor comes from organic chemistry. Hydrocarbons? Only two elements, carbon and hydrogen, but my word, the possibilities are staggering.

And oxygen and nitrogen and sulphur and phosphorous…

 

[MillieDynamite]

Speaking of verbiage to describe sex and genitalia, I'm writing a story to be set in the 19th century, as if the character was actually writing the story at that period at the end of that century. Somebody once posted a list of archaic terms for the topic, but like a fool, I didn't bookmark it. If you were more clever than I am and did so, could you refer me to that contribution?

This might not the same list.

Abbess: Brothel madam, Agony of Bliss: orgasm, Ape Leader: An old maid, Arbor Vitae: Penis, Back Avenue: Buttocks, Ballocks: Testicles, Balsamic Injection: Ejaculation, Blind upid: Buttocks, Bubbies: Breasts, Buck's Face: A cuckold, Bunter: The lowest of prostitutes—half beggar, half whore, Buttered Bun: A man getting “sloppy seconds”

Cash Carrier: Pimp, Chicken-breasted: Flat-chested, Cloven Inlet: Lady bits, Cock Lane: Lady bits, Critical Period: Orgasm, Cunny: Lady bits, Diddeys: Breasts, Dollymop: A part-time prostitute, Downy spring-moss: Bush, Dugs: Breasts, Engagement: Getting it on, Fairest Flower: Lady bits, Fetching mettle: Masturbating, Flap Dragon: Clap, Fleshy Orbs: Buttocks, Flood of bliss: Orgasm,

Gal-Boy: A gay guy, Gay: Mandrake, Gaying Instrument: Penis, Giblets: Livin' in sin, Give a green gown: To get it on, Hedge Whore: A whore who gets it on in the hedges, Joining giblets: Getting it on, Knapped: Pregnant, Knocking: Getting it on, Lobcock: A flaccid penis, Madge: Lady bits, Manuals of Love's Devotion: Breasts, Melting moments: a fat couple getting it on, Money: Li'l girl's bits, Notch: Lady bits, Nug: Term of endearment

Paps: Breasts, Pearly Shower: Ejaculation, Pinchcock: Prostitute, Piss-proud: A false erection, Posteriors: Buttocks, Prigging: Getting it on, Prodigious engine: Penis, Quail-pipe: a woman's tongue, Ripe fruits: Breasts, Root: Penis, Roundmouth: Anus, Ruby-tipped Globes: Breasts, Sable fur: Bush, Sapphist: Lesbian, Steed: Penis, Stiff Sinew: Penis, Sting of Pleasure: Orgasm, Storm of Heaves: Getting it on, Sweet Death: Orgasm, Swive: Getting it on

Tackle: Penis, Toffer: A Grade A whore, Tom: Butch, Truncheon: Penis, Tupping: Getting it on, Unrigged: Undressed, Venus's Curse: An STD, Virgin's Flower: Lady bits, Wapping: Getting it on, Warm Gush: Ejaculation, Weapon: Penis, Whirlygigs: Testicles, White Cliffs: Buttocks, White Staff: Penis, Whore-pipe: Penis,

 

[NotWise]

Thanks for the tip, but all those links are dead ends, and a search for the term "Green's Dictionary of Slang" didn't turn up anything.

But I'm 99% sure that what I read was something posted by a Lit author.

We must live in different worlds. The links in the original and in the quote work for me, and search of "Greens Dictionary of Slang" turns up, well, Greens Dictionary of Slang, the Wikipedia article about Green's Dictionary of Slang, and pages of links to and about Green's Dictionary of Slang.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

And oxygen and nitrogen and sulphur and phosphorous…

<Pedant> Then they are not hydro-carbons anymore. Still organic molecules but not hydrocarbons. </pedant>

 

[Bubo_bubo]

We must live in different worlds. The links in the original and in the quote work for me, and search of "Greens Dictionary of Slang" turns up, well, Greens Dictionary of Slang, the Wikipedia article about Green's Dictionary of Slang, and pages of links to and about Green's Dictionary of Slang.

I can confirm. And I live out in the sticks (the sticks of the World that is).

 

[DaddyAnal1966]

<Pedant> Then they are not hydro-carbons anymore. Still organic molecules but not hydrocarbons. </pedant>

You are challenging me to a pedantry duel? To the death!

 

[GrushaVashnadze]

Indeed... of course, the alternative casual assumption made in this thread, probably unremarked by most of the contributors, is that all of that imaginative scene setting and plot invention you mention has 'of course' already been achieved... such that the only troublesome matter left is the tiresome business of not repeating oneself in the description of the sex.

Good point, Magineer. And embedded in what you say is another casual assumption too often made, which is that the scene setting must come first, and then the sex comes at the end of the scene/chapter. And perhaps this is, in turn, a corollary of yet another assumption - that a sex story is principally about sex, and that the other stuff is merely the background or the build-up.

My take is slightly different: I like my stories to be about life, and our relationships with society and the universe we live in. In this context, the sex is part of the setting: even though there may be a lot of it, and it may be very filthy (and, to link with the original topic of this thread, very filthily described), yet the story is about "bigger" things. I like to say, of my three "big" stories, that

The Cursed Cunt is a story about vocation, betrayal, guilt and redemption;

A Smoking Trash Cunt Whore is a story about addiction, relationship abuse, and revenge;

and Alison Goes to London is a romantic-comedy-cum-dystopian-satire exploring love and lust, youthful idealism and disillusionment, the transcendent and the temporal, freedom and societal control. Oh, and, er, filthy anal fucking: yeah, plenty of that...

(Apologies for the shameless self-promotion. I'll shut up now.)

 

[MillieDynamite]

Good point, Magineer. And embedded in what you say is another casual assumption too often made, which is that the scene setting must come first, and then the sex comes at the end of the scene/chapter. And perhaps this is, in turn, a corollary of yet another assumption - that a sex story is principally about sex, and that the other stuff is merely the background or the build-up.

My take is slightly different: I like my stories to be about life, and our relationships with society and the universe we live in. In this context, the sex is part of the setting: even though there may be a lot of it, and it may be very filthy (and, to link with the original topic of this thread, very filthily described), yet the story is about "bigger" things. I like to say, of my three "big" stories, that

The Cursed Cunt is a story about vocation, betrayal, guilt and redemption;

A Smoking Trash Cunt Whore is a story about addiction, relationship abuse, and revenge;

and Alison Goes to London is a romantic-comedy-cum-dystopian-satire exploring love and lust, youthful idealism and disillusionment, the transcendent and the temporal, freedom and societal control. Oh, and, er, filthy anal fucking: yeah, plenty of that...

(Apologies for the shameless self-promotion. I'll shut up now.)

You seem to really like the C word. My eyes are burning from seeing it, my nerves are shattered from comprehending the word, and my anger is elevated from how much I hate the word! Sorry, I really hate that word.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I often find times when my characters aren't quite ready for sex yet, so I have scenes where they're circling around the sex slowly, finding the right time. This usually adds more intimacy and intensity to the sex scenes, fuels their heat.

Others say it best - some comments from a recent story (second place in the 2021 reader category awards Fetish):

by muskyboy on 10/27/2021
Really excellent writing. Descriptions of emotions were particularly well done. Really enjoyed this one, thanks!

by AahhWhattheHell on 11/22/2021
What I liked most about this is how "there" you made the reader. I could really feel the intensity of both minds and bodies.

by yesterdays on 12/18/2021
Excellent story! 5 stars. Love the realism.

 

[ElectricBlue]

You seem to really like the C word. My eyes are burning from seeing it, my nerves are shattered from comprehending the word, and my anger is elevated from how much I hate the word! Sorry, I really hate that word.

My older sister is gay, came out in 1971. She uses cunt actively, precisely to claim the power of the word back for women, to own it. When a six foot tall woman drops cunt into everyday conversation, with a beautiful English accent, it all seems perfectly normal.

I use it frequently in my stories, with my empowered women, for the same reason; to give the power of the word back to women. This fear of language, especially within America, I find bizarre. It's as if you're all afraid of something, but I don't know what it is.

 

[KeithD]

You seem to really like the C word. My eyes are burning from seeing it, my nerves are shattered from comprehending the word, and my anger is elevated from how much I hate the word! Sorry, I really hate that word.

I prefer it too. Like I use the word "cock." They are straightforward. Not for the anal attentive. Unless I'm writing a story with a character who would use the words that way, I don't use them to refer to the person, though, but to the sexual equipment. So, I wouldn't suggest reading my stories. I don't write for the squeamish or those needing babysitting. My readers are made of stronger, more robust stuff.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

My older sister is gay, came out in 1971. She uses cunt actively, precisely to claim the power of the word back for women, to own it. When a six foot tall woman drops cunt into everyday conversation, with a beautiful English accent, it all seems perfectly normal.

I use it frequently in my stories, with my empowered women, for the same reason; to give the power of the word back to women. This fear of language, especially within America, I find bizarre. It's as if you're all afraid of something, but I don't know what it is.

For me Cunt, Cock and Fuck form the Trinity of Sex. Three forceful ejective one-syllable words, that tell it like it is, unvarnished.