Atheism

[Zmey]

only for a minute

*tag-tag* *gingle*

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Fluffy Z

The way I am writing this is not to be preaching. It is the way I see it for me. You can feel people and their love but there is love at times you can't have in the physical that you just know is there. A person you love passes but you still sense them. You stand on a cold windy day but you feel some sort of warmth. I can't explain why I believe but I can see so much of it about me.

Today driving to work was a freaking windy day. I was waiting for a turning signal and looked up watching a flock of birds trying to fly. The wind kept them in some sort of spiral effect and it was pretty amazing to see.

I do not know why I have always seen good in things about me but I do. At the same time I can be negative but I do believe in Kharma also about what comes around goes around. There is a lot of knowledge in so many different types of religion. A logical explaination would be that the people that created the religion knew what they were talking about human nature.

OK egg me on I will divulge more if you are interested. Again this is the way I sense it. It is not something a person can teach but simply share.

Peace,
Tulip
*jeez deep thoughts here

 

[Zmey]

Re: Based on recent legal events....

Atheism does not tolerate the existence of any other religious expression. Neither did Communism.

I'm not that kind of Atheist ...

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: Based on recent legal events....

I'm not that kind of Atheist ...

So what kind of atheist are you? Are there levels to it all and such? In a way if you think about it, isn't it a religion of beliefs?

Peace,
Tulip
Yanking your chain.

 

[CatEyes]

Re: Based on recent legal events....

Atheism does not tolerate the existence of any other religious expression. Neither did Communism.

Neither does the catholic church.

 

[Zmey]

Re: Re: Re: Based on recent legal events....

So what kind of atheist are you? Are there levels to it all and such? In a way if you think about it, isn't it a religion of beliefs?

Peace,
Tulip
Yanking your chain.

lack there off actually ... my theory is that human is a biological machine. Feeling and emotions are just there to enhance our existence and the goal in life is to procreate. Difference between theory and faith is that theory can be proven or disproven faith is just faith...

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Does your religion respects atheists or we damned sinners?

My religion espouses the belief that atheist are diabolical heathens who will endure everlasting punishment cast into a lake of fire, but that their real torture is that they will never know the grace of God's presence.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death," (Revelation 21:8).

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels," (Matthew 25:41).

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire," (Matthew 18:8).

"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched," (Mark 9:43,44).

"And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame," (Luke 16:22-24).

"Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable," (Luke 3:17).

"The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?" (Isaiah 33:14).

"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God," (Psalms 9:17).

Of course, the fact that our God is a fictious character, created for the sole purpose of controlling the weak minded masses, renders this all pretty much moot. So, I wouldn't worry to much about it.

 

[Lost Cause]

Belief in something..it's a human thing..

From the sunrise to the sunset, and all things in between. Humans cannot look at a rose, a bird, a thunderstorm, or death without reasoning that something or someone is pulling the strings.
I have been with people at death, and have seen them identify their ancestors on the other side waiting, that I have no doubt.
When my grandfather passed at home, we went into my grandmother's room to tell her the news. She told us that she already knew, because grampa had come in to tell her he was leaving her, and that he'll see her soon.
It's hard to go one way in life, when everything else experienced, points to another directions.

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Based on recent legal events....

lack there off actually ... my theory is that human is a biological machine. Feeling and emotions are just there to enhance our existence and the goal in life is to procreate. Difference between theory and faith is that theory can be proven or disproven faith is just faith...

Ok some of it does sound religious base minus the higher being. If we were a biological machine wouldn't we be something like the Matrix. To me there is more than that. Feelings, faith, belief, love, anger, hatred, can control us if we allow them to. A realization in my youth I had to feel the sadness I experienced in order to appreciate and enhance the happy times in my life. Without the other how would we truly being able to value life.

Nobody has the ability to close off all emotions. So many say they do but there is always something that will get to them. I am thinking "Rosebud" in the movie CitizenCane.

Peace,
Tulip

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Belief in something..it's a human thing..

From the sunrise to the sunset, and all things in between. Humans cannot look at a rose, a bird, a thunderstorm, or death without reasoning that something or someone is pulling the strings.
I have been with people at death, and have seen them identify their ancestors on the other side waiting, that I have no doubt.
When my grandfather passed at home, we went into my grandmother's room to tell her the news. She told us that she already knew, because grampa had come in to tell her he was leaving her, and that he'll see her soon.
It's hard to go one way in life, when everything else experienced, points to another directions.

Thank you for that Lost Cause!

Peace,
Tulip

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Did you know that "rosebud" was really what Randolf Hurst called his much younger girlfriend's pussy, and that Orson Wells just put that in there to piss him off ... since Cane was really Hurst anyway.

 

[tulip2lipservice]

No I didn't

but thank you for the trivia. It is amazing how many people do things in order to get under another person's skin.

Hmmm from the sounds of your previous post I am so going to hell. So fluffyZ see you there.

Peace,
Tulip

 

[Zmey]

Re: Belief in something..it's a human thing..

From the sunrise to the sunset, and all things in between. Humans cannot look at a rose, a bird, a thunderstorm, or death without reasoning that something or someone is pulling the strings.
I have been with people at death, and have seen them identify their ancestors on the other side waiting, that I have no doubt.
When my grandfather passed at home, we went into my grandmother's room to tell her the news. She told us that she already knew, because grampa had come in to tell her he was leaving her, and that he'll see her soon.
It's hard to go one way in life, when everything else experienced, points to another directions.

For four hundred years black man kissed white mans feet and one day the black man razed up and cut the strings.
If there even was God it was destroyed long time ago.

 

[CatEyes]

I don't believe in any particular religion, I don't believe in the church, I don't believe there's an after life, I don't believe in the bible. I don't know how I really feel about a higher power though. Sometimes I think it's possible and then other times I think it's a crock. *shrug* Who knows.

 

[tulip2lipservice]

FluffyZ

I do not understand the last comment but I am sure there was a point you were trying to make.

What I could relate it to is that structured religions do keep others down. It is a way to control the masses.

From history you have to realize any religion was the source of community. If you were not an active member of the religion in a way you were an outcast. This is not a statement geared towards any major religion but it is fact to me. The meeting place on the holy day of the religion is where people interacted. Some of the ceremonies were like a theatre or source of entertainment. It was a place where people could see lovely fashions and what not. This is all prior to electricity, heating and modern communications.

People, human beings, have a need to believe. I cannot tell you what is the right or wrong thing to believe in. I can just say I know I believe in what I do. I know there is something amazing out there. There have been too many signs for me in this life as of now.

Peace,
Tulip

 

[Lost Cause]

Wha?...

So, that's the reason for your belief? A couple of centuries old bullshit divisional mantra?

1. Arabs started the fucking slave trade in Africa.
2. African-Arabs sold Africans to the traders.
3. There has always been slavery in history by conquests of one tribe over another.
4. There is still a slave trade on the Ivory Coast, by Africans!

And all this time I thought your Atheism was valid......

 

[badasschick]

Re: Re: Belief in something..it's a human thing..

For four hundred years black man kissed white mans feet and one day the black man razed up and cut the strings.
If there even was God it was destroyed long time ago.

So what got us through? If not for faith?

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Wha?...

So, that's the reason for your belief? A couple of centuries old bullshit divisional mantra?

1. Arabs started the fucking slave trade in Africa.
2. African-Arabs sold Africans to the traders.
3. There has always been slavery in history by conquests of one tribe over another.
4. There is still a slave trade on the Ivory Coast, by Africans!

And all this time I thought your Atheism was valid......

Complete and utter bullshit. The Pope divided the world between Spain and Portugal in the 15th century, and they along with England (which ignored the Pope's decree) were the major forces in the Atlantic slave trade.

It's amazing how people like you will try to rewrite your diabolical history in order to feel good about yourselves. I suppose that there really weren't any Native Americans living on this continent prior to European conquest, and that the holocaust never happened either.

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: No I didn't

but thank you for the trivia. It is amazing how many people do things in order to get under another person's skin.

Hmmm from the sounds of your previous post I am so going to hell. So fluffyZ see you there.

Peace,
Tulip

Ah ... I don't think that you read the bold print.

 

[Zmey]

Re: FluffyZ

What I could relate it to is that structured religions do keep others down. It is a way to control the masses.

Peace,
Tulip

That's exactly what I talking about

I do not think that it is wrong to believe in something. I can not say what is right or wrong thing to believe in. It's always up to individual. I'm not down with religions that degrade other or clam that other religions are wrong. I don't like the whole "obey your master" thing. In a way ... "I got nothing against God it's his angry fan club that I'm worry about"

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Re: Re: Belief in something..it's a human thing..

So what got us through? If not for faith?

Faith in whom? The gods of our ancestors are lost to us -- as is any culture that isn't a product of slavery and our languages. Cubans and Puerto Ricans are much more African than we (African Americans) are.

 

[Zmey]

Re: Wha?...

So, that's the reason for your belief? A couple of centuries old bullshit divisional mantra?

1. Arabs started the fucking slave trade in Africa.
2. African-Arabs sold Africans to the traders.
3. There has always been slavery in history by conquests of one tribe over another.
4. There is still a slave trade on the Ivory Coast, by Africans!

And all this time I thought your Atheism was valid......

No just trying to make example without having sufficient facts

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: FluffyZ

That's exactly what I talking about

I do not think that it is wrong to believe in something. I can not say what is right or wrong thing to believe in. It's always up to individual. I'm not down with religions that degrade other or clam that other religions are wrong. I don't like the whole "obey your master" thing. In a way ... "I got nothing against God it's his angry fan club that I'm worry about"

Dang so are you telling me that you are not submissive and would not want a dom?

Peace,
Tulip

 

[Zmey]

Re: Re: Re: FluffyZ

Dang so are you telling me that you are not submissive and would not want a dom?

Peace,
Tulip

*whispering* Spank me

 

[tulip2lipservice]

Re: Re: Re: Re: FluffyZ

*whispering* Spank me

awe contrare (my spelling sucks but the accent of the word is in my mind) You are not into the whole master thing. Dang and I thought we could take turns. Wink

Peace,
Tulp