Are you fucking kidding me?

[lovecraft68]

I woke up to see this on Yahoo this morning.

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-senate-ca...ancies-rape-061057785--abc-news-politics.html

Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck is wrong with this asshole(besides the fact I'm sure nothing terrible has ever befallen anyone in his family)

This, in a nutshell is why a woman has to be insane to vote republican.

God's fucking plan? First off I don;t believe in Gd as nothing but an apathetic absentee parent that could care less about his "children"

However even that is a better belief than God would want someone to be raped.

I hope this motherfucker is beset with something terrible in his life and damn soon. I want to read about something awful happening to him so I can e-mail his office and tell him it was god's plan

Republican's are lower than fucking dirt

 

[Kurokami]

Lovey, what in Christianity's literature makes you think that god wouldn't want, or at least arrange, for someone to be raped? This is a being that condemns large swathes of humanity to eternal torment for completely innocuous stuff, to say nothing of Noah's flood. Let's face it, malevolence such as this man describes is entirely within god's character. In fact, this is really the most honest I think I've ever seen a fundamentalist act; most of the time only good things are a part of god's plan, and everything bad comes from the devil.

That said, I don't believe in god, and this motherfucker needs a serious reality check- not to mention some kind of punching- if he thinks he's making a good case for his argument, let alone his deity. I guess when you don't have any real arguments to back up your position, fiction will have to do.

And what a fucking scumbag anyway, honestly.

 

[Handley_Page]

entered in error

 

[sereneone4u]

Lovey, what in Christianity's literature makes you think that god wouldn't want, or at least arrange, for someone to be raped? This is a being that condemns large swathes of humanity to eternal torment for completely innocuous stuff, to say nothing of Noah's flood. Let's face it, malevolence such as this man describes is entirely within god's character. In fact, this is really the most honest I think I've ever seen a fundamentalist act; most of the time only good things are a part of god's plan, and everything bad comes from the devil.

That said, I don't believe in god, and this motherfucker needs a serious reality check- not to mention some kind of punching- if he thinks he's making a good case for his argument, let alone his deity. I guess when you don't have any real arguments to back up your position, fiction will have to do.

And what a fucking scumbag anyway, honestly.

That is not true.

 

[sr71plt]

In the newsclip I saw this morning of this candidate saying this he goes on to say that he would approve of an abortion only if the life of the mother was endangered. I sort of wondered why he didn't think that endangering the life of the mother was as much "God's" plan as her being raped was. But I guess that, in this circumstance, the inconsistency can only be welcomed.

I think it's a headscratcher on why there are any women left in the Republican Party at all. Certainly none with half a brain, I wouldn't think.

 

[3113]

I think it's a headscratcher on why there are any women left in the Republican Party at all. Certainly none with half a brain, I wouldn't think.

Stockholm's Syndrome is the only thing I can figure. They've begun to identify with their kidnappers....

 

[rob_4u2]

It doesnt matter republican or democrat, politicians dont give two shits what the people want. They are only interested in getting power keeping power and enriching their own parties and will manipulate people to serve their agenda.

 

[sr71plt]

Stockholm's Syndrome is the only thing I can figure. They've begun to identify with their kidnappers....

Oh, I think it's a defense mechanism--needing to feel justified in the decisions they've made in life and what they've let someone else do to them or decide for them.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

Barry Goldwater said it all several years ago.


“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
~Barry Goldwater

One of the reasons I'm a registered Independent.

Mike

 

[MarieWriter]

this issue

Oh... I so want to respond to this, make a comment or two, but I'll let my "lady parts," rest in peace over this. Besides, I really hate to think anyone would vote based solely over ONE issue and not the overall package. If one man says something stupid does that mean everyone associated with said person agrees, or is stupid as well? That can work both ways...

 

[sr71plt]

Well, since you DID comment and didn't rest your "lady parts," yes, there are some comments on a single issue that are so idiotic and so much the tip of the iceberg on other issues that it's enough to brand the speaker. And, yes, there are some remarks on single issues that are so idiotic and so much the tip of the iceberg on other issues that it also brands those who don't walk away from the speaker in disgust--and stay away.

Since I am conflicted on this abortion issue, I could conceive of some statements on the other end of this single issue leaving me equally disgusted with the mentality of the one making the statement. I just haven't been hearing them recently.

It just so happens I am observing Republicans (including Republican women supporters--mostly in their acquiesence to the idotic statements by men) being more idiotic on this issue this election than anyone on the other side of the issue.

We've avoided the AH being taken over by partisan politics in an election year pretty well this year, so, recognizing that I invoked the "Republican" word and persona here, I'll back out of further mentions of politics on this thread. I apologize for having introduced it.

 

[MatthewVett]

Honestly, there's no belief so inhumane, deranged, or idiotic that a Republican candidate could express that would surprise me anymore.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Honestly, there's no belief so inhumane, deranged, or idiotic that a Republican candidate could express that would surprise me anymore.

Or make me waste what little anger I have left getting angry at them.

I do get angry at people who used to be human beings that agree or excuse them, though. I can't stop myself.

Oh... I so want to respond to this, make a comment or two, but I'll let my "lady parts," rest in peace over this. Besides, I really hate to think anyone would vote based solely over ONE issue and not the overall package. If one man says something stupid does that mean everyone associated with said person agrees, or is stupid as well? That can work both ways...

Girlfriend really.

Your ladyparts? Mine, my daughters, her friends, the women I don't know-- this isn't your ladyparts alone.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think I heard something today that says it all.

A friend of mine is originally from Pakistan, he came over here with his parents about 25 years ago,

We were discussing this today and he started laughing and said he's starting to think that the hardcore Islamic have a higher regard for women's rights than the republicans do

 

[MarieWriter]

lady parts

My point is simply this- I don't judge everyone or everything by one assholes remarks. I spent way to much time, effort and money to get an education. Some jackass commenting about rape, something I abhor so much I wont even write a story that hints at it, is not the final decision maker for me.

It's about the bigger picture for all of life. If you let one thing bring you down, or one item make your decision for you then you have been beaten.

I like to think that I'm smarter than people that make comments like that.
So yea, my lady parts as all these silly Hollywood people have been saying in those political ads.

I don't need someone else telling me how THEY think I should think. I'm smart enough to know how I'm voting and why. I know why I believe and live the way I do. Some asshole making rape comments doesn't change that.

Come on- really?

Wow, can a black vote for a white candidate over a black candidate and still believe in black issues? Is that person still black? If a woman votes Republican does that make her less of a woman? Does it mean I believe less in woman's issues?

As much as I love sex, and I do, my brain still makes my decisions. And I too have sisters, a mom, a daughter, a daughter in law and now even a granddaughter. It is about all of us after all.

Some ass showing how stupid he is and making a fool of himself over a rape comment doesn't change anything about anything except letting us know he personally is an asshole.

 

[MsQuote]

Give me a minute to reattach my head to respond. It kind of blew off when I read this.

*twist* *screw* *stitch*

OK ... that's better.

It absolutely scares the shit out of me that people like Mourdock, Akin, Santorum and Ryan actually get elected to important elected seats.

I can only hope that an asshat comment like that causes him to lose the election.

 

[3113]

Wow, can a black vote for a white candidate over a black candidate and still believe in black issues? Is that person still black? If a woman votes Republican does that make her less of a woman? Does it mean I believe less in woman's issues?

Wow. You're not all that smart if you think being black is an ideology. Presumably, a black person who "supports" black rights means that he simply wants equal rights for blacks. Which is what we expect all our representatives to want. Why should any representative, no matter their ethnicity, say, "I don't want blacks to be equal to whites?" I certainly wouldn't vote for a candidate who didn't support equal rights for a group because of skin color. Would you?

A religion or a party, on the other hand, represents an an ideology. This ideology can be anti-black, or anti-white, anti-gay or anti-woman. If you vote for that party, then you are voting for that ideology. You may, in your mind, be voting more for some other ideology the party stands for--like making abortion illegal--but if that party also wants to make sure gays can't marry, then you're voting for that, too, whether you agree with it or not. That's the party's stance, and it's leaders will do what they can to makes sure gays don't get to marry.

You decide what matters more to you and vote accordingly.

 

[3113]

Some asshole making rape comments doesn't change that.

How about several assholes making rape comments? All of them in power, in office or running for office?

1. Todd Akin: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that whole thing down” - mid 2012 Senate Campaign

2. Chuck Winder: “I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a rape. I assume that’s part of the counseling that goes on.” - March 2012

3. Ken Buck: “A jury could very well conclude that this is a case of buyer’s remorse … It appears to me … you invited him over… the appearance is of consent.” - October 2010

4. Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you… rape victims should make the best of a bad situation.” - January, 2012

Let's add to this the assholes who wouldn't let even one woman present her case on employers paying for contraceptives (for a certain type of cancer, no less), only hearing men against such on the issue. Let's add to this the female state representative who was banned from the floor for saying the word "vagina" (she should have used "lady parts" right?) by the asshole majority leader.

So, I will agree with you that one asshole's comments do not indicate that the political party maintains such an asshole position. But when asshole after asshole in this party makes similar comments--and remain in power in that party--and when a lot of those assholes create legislation that would seem to be in agreement with these asshole beliefs (Ryan's "forceable rape" clause in his legislation comes to mind. 214 from his party signed it), and when even more such assholes in this party refuse to let those most affected by their views (women) argue the other side...then I think we can tar the whole party with the same asshole brush.

You will vote for whoever you like for whatever reason you like, but don't try to tell me that this one asshole doesn't represent the ideology of his political party. There've been plenty of assholes prior to him not only saying, but passing legislation that more than proves that that this asshole's view of rape is the view of the party he belongs to.

 

[MsQuote]

 

[lovecraft68]

Hey I found this on my PC.

I think I'll send it to Mourdock, he can use it as a campaign slogan.

Right up his fucking alley, no?

 

[The_Misplaced_Gypsy]

Wtf?

Ohmyfuckingchristonaritzcracker!

You know.. one thing would end all the fucking debate about women and "OUR" bodies. If men could get pregnant too.

Period.

Then how would all these "males" in the world, that think that they can rule "OUR" bodies by their insensitive pricks, feel if they got raped and then got pregnant by their rapist?

Oh and the one about the progeny that is developed from a rape be called a gift? EXCUSE ME?!

North-end-of-a-south-bounded-father-of-a-motherless-troll-that-has-been-set-out-upon-the-deck-of-a-ship-in-the-sun-to-have-it-carcass-bleached the whole lot of them that think that.. oh and the ones that think women are nothing more than cattle, lets see how you appreciate being prodded by speculum.

The Pissed Off Misplaced Gypsy

 

[MSTarot]

Chuckle.

I need to go look up if this guy is from my home town. He sure as hell sounds like he's from around here.

Vote Libertarian

http://www.lp.org/

All they want to do is makes drug legal, shrink the size of the government, eliminate the property and income tax.

Are they the perfect party? Hell no they are politicians. The're just as bad as the others but it would be nice to have something new to bitch about.

If I was being offered a person I wanted to vote for it would make this election a lot more meaningful. As It I feel like I'm seeing a office being passed back and forth between two groups that spend all their time trying to find out what the other group has done wrong.

This person did this, that person did that. Listen to that long enough and you don't want to vote for either.

Cthulhu for president. Don't settle for a lesser Evil!

M.S.Tarot

I need more coffee.

 

[MSTarot]

Ohmyfuckingchristonaritzcracker!



North-end-of-a-south-bounded-father-of-a-motherless-troll-that-has-been-set-out-upon-the-deck-of-a-ship-in-the-sun-to-have-it-carcass-bleached the whole lot of them that think that.. oh and the ones that think women are nothing more than cattle, lets see how you appreciate being prodded by speculum.

The Pissed Off Misplaced Gypsy

Yep, marry a Scorpio...it makes life interesting.

 

[sr71plt]

Vote Libertarian

http://www.lp.org/

All they want to do is makes drug legal, shrink the size of the government, eliminate the property and income tax.

Well, no. They also want everyone else to carry the bucket for them. This, too, is a form of "taking advantage of someone else without their consent."

(Sorry, couldn't resist. But I have some of these self-possessed deadbeat Libertarians in my own extended family.)

 

[Stella_Omega]

My point is simply this- I don't judge everyone or everything by one assholes remarks. I spent way to much time, effort and money to get an education. Some jackass commenting about rape, something I abhor so much I wont even write a story that hints at it, is not the final decision maker for me.

It's about the bigger picture for all of life. If you let one thing bring you down, or one item make your decision for you then you have been beaten.

I like to think that I'm smarter than people that make comments like that.
So yea, my lady parts as all these silly Hollywood people have been saying in those political ads.

I don't need someone else telling me how THEY think I should think. I'm smart enough to know how I'm voting and why. I know why I believe and live the way I do. Some asshole making rape comments doesn't change that.

Come on- really?

Wow, can a black vote for a white candidate over a black candidate and still believe in black issues? Is that person still black? If a woman votes Republican does that make her less of a woman? Does it mean I believe less in woman's issues?

Can a black man vote for a racist, is the actual question. Plenty of white politicians work for the common good. Some of them actively work to remove minority rights.

Can a woman vote for someone who will work very hard to remove her most basic civil right-- the autonomy of her own body. Not all politicians do that.

And the answer to both of those questions, is yes, of course they can. And their friends can ask them; "What the fuck are you thinking?"

As much as I love sex, and I do, my brain still makes my decisions. And I too have sisters, a mom, a daughter, a daughter in law and now even a granddaughter. It is about all of us after all.

Some ass showing how stupid he is and making a fool of himself over a rape comment doesn't change anything about anything except letting us know he personally is an asshole.

He's an asshole in power. That's kind of why his comment is remarkable.