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[Lasher]

I got the activation mail now I'm waiting for my account to go through moderation, whatever the hell that means.

If it's anything like Mormon.com's board, your posts will never see the light of day.

 

[Sean]

Margaret Thacher must have been just an aberration. Good thing she wasn't pretty.

Thatcher got where she did by being more male than the men in her party.

 

[Sean]

If it's anything like Mormon.com's board, your posts will never see the light of day.

Heh. Possibly. Worth a try though.

 

[Lasher]

So no woman here thinks it's wrong that she is being picked on for being attractive? Nobody sees the sexism in this?

Fucking idiots.

If you think that's what's going on you're really not paying attention.

Being a GILF is the one thing she has going for her. It would be nice to have a VP to jerk off to, instead of one that's a complete jerk off.

 

[Wrong Element]

MSNBC was all over that as soon as it happened.

Ah. I actually didn't have the TV on yesterday; I based that on what I saw online. That's promising, I suppose, although MSNBC doesn't reach too many swing voters.

I did see where Fox News says Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia. By the same token, I have foreign policy experience because I live across a lake from Canada.

 

[Bert Notorius]

Thatcher got where she did by being more male than the men in her party.

And I thought she slept her way to the top...

 

[KRCummings]

If you think that's what's going on you're really not paying attention.

Being a GILF is the one thing she has going for her. It would be nice to have a VP to jerk off to, instead of one that's a complete jerk off.

No, I'm paying attention but I didn't mean the whole country. I meant the idiots on this forum who post high school pictures of her and imply she's a bad choice because of her looks. That's sexist and ignorant.

 

[Sean]

And I thought she slept her way to the top...

*shudders*
There's an image I don't need.
Alan Clarke fancied her. His diaries make that quite clear.

 

[Lasher]

No, I'm paying attention but I didn't mean the whole country. I meant the idiots on this forum who post high school pictures of her and imply she's a bad choice because of her looks. That's sexist and ignorant.

Apparently I missed those threads. Or scrolled past those posts. Killswitch?

 

[KRCummings]

ahhhh, Im sorry. Im not that fickle and I wanted desperately to vote for Hillary.

And judging from the responses of the women in this thread, you're dead wrong.

Except that I was referring to the linked forum, idiot. Seems that supports what I'm saying.
Pay attention or shut the fuck up.

 

[KRCummings]

Apparently I missed those threads. Or scrolled past those posts. Killswitch?

There have been some scattered around. "Look here! She was a beauty queen so she can't run a country!"

Idiots.

 

[B_Gus_Richards]

I voted for Bush , I voted for Clinton before that I will vote for McCain I vote on the issues which always leaves me just about half wrong. I do the best I can in compromising, which sucks, but I bet your a life long Democrat??? Hipocrite?? If the Democrats would stop this JFK wanna be shit, stop all the social intervention crap, balance the budget and defend all the bills of rights I would vote for them.

First, I openly admit my bias. So you calling me a "hypocrite" ("Hippocrite" is considered the founder of medicine) doesn't apply because I don't claim to be anything but a Dem honk.


The budget was balanced under Clinton.

Social intervention? Do you mean like amending the Constitution to prevent gay marriage? Do mean getting involved in the Terri Schiavo case? Do you mean outlawing bankruptcy for individuals but allowing companies to file? Do you mean artificially lowering interest rates to encourage home ownership for people that can't afford it?

What Bills of Rights have disappeared? I'm curious to hear this one.

 

[Wrong Element]

No, I'm paying attention but I didn't mean the whole country. I meant the idiots on this forum who post high school pictures of her and imply she's a bad choice because of her looks. That's sexist and ignorant.

I agree that's illegitimate criticism, although it's legitimate to be concerned that those high school pictures were taken pretty recently, and that the bulk of her life has been spent in that same podunk town.

But good looks will always help in politics.

 

[jomar]

I got the activation mail now I'm waiting for my account to go through moderation, whatever the hell that means.

Really. What are they going to do, check out your bona fides?

LMAO. I think I'd get my nads ripped off.

I was going to ask them why they are so happy about Palin that they're going to vote for a pro life creationist.

Mine was along the same line.

 

[KRCummings]

I agree that's illegitimate criticism, although it's legitimate to be concerned that those high school pictures were taken pretty recently, and that the bulk of her life has been spent in that same podunk town.

But good looks will always help in politics.

She's 44. That's a reasonable age for a VP.
Her other credentials I'm not so sure about but age and looks shouldn't play into it at all.

 

[pink]

Talk to Alaska and see how she did for the citizen's there.

 

[KRCummings]

I also like the criticisms of her over creationism. It's one thing to critisize for her support of it being taught in schools but so far I've seen more than a couple comments condeming her just for being a creationist. Do people not realize that every single person in the race is a creationist?
Just a stupid, simple-minded attack.

 

[KRCummings]

Talk to Alaska and see how she did for the citizen's there.

It doesn't return my calls.

 

[Bert Notorius]

Maybe some are giving the average walmart shopper too much credit. Politics is as much a beauty pageant as .....a beauty pageant is.

 

[KRCummings]

Maybe some are giving the average walmart shopper too much credit. Politics is as much a beauty pageant as .....a beauty pageant is.

That's what I've been saying. Never, ever overestimate the average American voter.

 

[pink]

It doesn't return my calls.

Delicacy said yesterday, She couldn't even run her own state and now they expect her to help run a country?

 

[KRCummings]

Delicacy said yesterday, She couldn't even run her own state and now they expect her to help run a country?

I'm sure quite a few people in Alaska think she's done a fine job.

 

[commonfreeman]

First, I openly admit my bias. So you calling me a "hypocrite" ("Hippocrite" is considered the founder of medicine) doesn't apply because I don't claim to be anything but a Dem honk.


The budget was balanced under Clinton.

Social intervention? Do you mean like amending the Constitution to prevent gay marriage? Do mean getting involved in the Terri Schiavo case? Do you mean outlawing bankruptcy for individuals but allowing companies to file? Do you mean artificially lowering interest rates to encourage home ownership for people that can't afford it?

What Bills of Rights have disappeared? I'm curious to hear this one.

This has nothing to do with this thread so I won't get to deep into it, but Clinton balanced budget was based on projections not realities, but he definitely did better than Bush and it one of the major reasons I disapprove of Bush. As for all the little crap you mention Clinton did just as many interventions and Obama got such a long list of programs that balancing the budget will be impossible unless he kills the economy with taxes on corporations or “the rich” who just pass them along causing inflation and a weakening of the dollar which drives up oil. As for the bill of rights that easy, the assault weapon ban was one of the lamest, failed, and unconstitutional laws passed in this century. But being the democratic shill that you are, I am sure you do not see it that way.

 

[lavender]

I want to add what I posted from another thread in here:

"Republicans playing identity politics = disgusting

John McCain's pick demonstrates cynicism, egoism, and lack of understanding. John McCain made the most important decision of his presidential campaign thinking only about November 4, 2008 and completely disregarding January 2009."

Someone then asked me "In what way? She is not a bimbo. She brings credible government experience to the ticket."

The answer is just so clear, and I responded:

"Credible government experience? She makes Dan Quayle look like Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Compare: Dan Quayle had 2 terms as House Rep and 2 terms as Senator - representing a state of I think about 6 million people. Palin was a part-time mayor of a town smaller than 9,000 just two years ago. Served on a governmental commission and now has served 18 months as a governor of a state of 600,000 people - which is smaller than the size of Austin Texas. Moreover, the Alaskan state government has only a part-time legislature.

Cynicism: Implicit in John McCain's decision to bring Palin into the ticket is a belief in raw Republican identity politics. McCain seems to believe that in order to get Hillary supporters he has to have a woman on the ticket. This indicates a belief that women were supporting Hillary simply because she was a woman, not because of any actual policies she had. McCain seems to believe that women are so dim-witted that they will abandon a "cause" that stood for much greater principles, to support a woman who is ardently pro-life, who does not agree with equal pay for equal work, and has absolutely no, no, no experience, tested judgments, noted opinions, or education of ANY sort on foreign policy. A huge facet of the Clinton campaign was strong foreign and military policy. McCain essentially shat on the true underpinnings of the greatness that is Hillary Clinton and those who supported her by handing out some odd "token" to try and grab votes. WTF is that about?

Egoism: McCain seems to actually have a belief that Obama is actually so inexperienced that he has fewer QUALIFICATIONS than Palin. Look, I'm not one who thinks 20 years in Washington, or 10 years as governor of a large state, or being CEO of a Fortune 500 company are the #1 factors for who should be our commander in chief. It's not just experience, but QUALIFICATIONS, knowledge, understanding. McCain seems to think: "Me POW, Me 30-year state senator, Me the Best" (and I am intentionally using a caveman type voice). Whereas, he has some true belief that the fact that Barack Obama is highly educated, has an incredible post-graduate legal education, worked in the inner city of Chicago and in New York to help working class folks, taught about the fundamental principles of our Constitution at one of the most esteemed and prestigious academic institutions in our country, represented his constiuency for 8 years in the Illinois Congress (one of the most precise and well-functioning and serious legislatures in this country), and then has been a Senator and not a do-nothing Senator but one who got in, rolled his sleeves up and championed causes, while building his understanding of foreign policy, knowing about international leaders and the true issues that shape our national interest has NO experience. Or the experience of the self-proclaimed "hockey mom."

This is how highly John McCain thinks of himself and how lowly he thinks of Clinton, Obama, the democratic party, and the principles of those 90,000 viewers at Invesco, the millions of people who has supported and built Obama's grassroots movements, and those 38 million viewers (just on cable and the news networks -other than CSPAN and PCS) who tuned in to see his speech (I'm sure not all were supporters).

Lack of understanding: He doesn't realize how hypocritical it is to say that Obama places his campaign above his country and then, knowing he is 72 years old, the oldest president to begin in our history, with health problems, that he worries more about who can help him win a news cycle, or help him shore up his base, or help him on November 4 - without ever once thinking about how can this person help me govern? Will this person truly be ready to take over should something happen to me.

I don't know about you, but I'm not comfortable with a person who was a mayor of a town of 9,000 just two years ago, and has little other practical experience, and knew very little about the Iraq war or the policies behind it, much less situations in Russia and Georgia, Darfur, the obstacles with Iran, the Middle East Peace crisis, etc. being a heart beat away from governing the United States military and our country in war or in times of crisis.

You see experience isn't just years. What qualifies you is not just the positions you've held. But, there is knowledge, and wisdom and learning and an overall "I get it" that has to be there. It's also demonstrated judgment or, at a MINIMUM thoughtful policies and opinions on issues.

This decision is just so baffling and, as a woman (and even as a Hillary Clinton supporter), it truly angers me and insults me at my core.

There are so many issues with this pick that it just tires me to continually type about it.

Honestly - this is the worst vice presidential pick in American history (save Stockdale)"

 

[Wrong Element]

She's 44. That's a reasonable age for a VP.
Her other credentials I'm not so sure about but age and looks shouldn't play into it at all.

I don't think 44 is too young, assuming one had been doing important work in that time. Dan Quayle was even younger than that, but he had been in Congress for 12 years.

Hey, leave it to Karl Rove to have the last word. Now this is fucking hilarious:

Republican strategist Karl Rove said on Face The Nation Sunday that he expects presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama to choose a running mate based on political calculations, not the person's readiness for the job.

"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."

Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years [Palin: 20 months], he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America [Richmond: 200,000 people; Wasilla 9,000]."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"

Has Uncle Karl weighed in on Palin yet?