Are There Now 18,000,001 Cracks Now?

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I know if I were an american woman I'd be insulted by this. If you are going for tokenism go for someone who people know has some experience, say Rice. Two birds with one stone then.

 

[Lasher]

Glad to see there's a least one thread on the GeeBee that actually gets to the core of what happened yesterday.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Did Palin's pick actually help crack the glass ceiling at all? Or do you think that Palin's pick actually works as superglue on some of those cracks to hold the glass ceiling more tightly together?

When it comes to these issues I'm quite the cynic. I actually think rather than progressing the work of women to cracking that glass ceiling, this token pick of an unqualified woman actually delegitimizes and diminishes some of the cracks Hillary Clinton actually made. It diminishes the work of those such as Barbara Jordan and other women who have served as governors, senators, representatives with strength and knowledge and will and grace.

This is why I, as a woman, am so angered by the Palin pick. This is why I, as a woman, have truly been searching all day, during work, the minute I came home, on information about her. I've been reading articles dating back years regarding Palin trying to figure this out. Trying to find some legitimacy in this.

I just can't.

Some Republican pundits said that women were angry because the first woman vice-president might be a Republican rather han a Democrat.

That's not my anger. That's not my issue. You see, Hillary Clinton, if ELECTED into office would have demonstrated that WOMEN could WIN the VOTES based on their policies, platform, strength, courage, fortitude, will, ideas, etc even though they were a woman.

Palin, who is not just inexperienced but is UNQUALIFIED, would have gotten there simply as a token pick by a man who has a pretty fucking weak record on women's issues (which can be seen by his own treatment of his first wife and the way he and his current wife have treated her extended family). And that's what pisses me off.

Hillary rode Bill like the stud he was. Get real. She got to where she was by his efforts.

I don't even need to defend the elected govenor of a state from such stupidity.

lavy, you should have thought this one out instead of emoting, again.

And watch Michelle, she has the same damned plan in mind...

All you loony LIBS think alike.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

All you can see is...






She's a woman. You guys were geared up to knock the shit out of any white man who stood up for the job; that was the whole fucking point of the Biden pick and the Biden speech, they were going to attack the person.

Now you're in the glamorous position of beating up on the girl.

Lazio has arisen from the dead thanks to THE ONE!

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I am going to be bumping this page one for years to come.







This is Lit 1999 v1.0 ladies and gentlemen. We HAVE now come full circle.






Only this time Cheney is a woman with a life story that will make Barack pale and Biden stutter...

 

[kotori]

http://www.theimproper.com/Images/Art/Sarah%20Palin%20Miss%20Alaska.jpg

Commander In Chief

That's a little harsh...

How about "A Heartbeat Away"?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........................................







Baracuda!

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

First -- first, there are a few people whom I would like you to meet. I want to start with my husband, Todd.

And Todd and I are actually celebrating our 20th anniversary today. And I promised him...

I had promised Todd a little surprise for the anniversary present, and hopefully he knows that I did deliver.

And then we have as -- after my husband, who is a lifelong commercial fisherman, lifetime Alaskan. He's a production operator.

Todd is a production operator in the oil fields up on Alaska's North Slope. And he's a proud member of the United Steelworkers union. And he's a world-champion snow machine racer. (APPLAUSE)

Todd and I met way back in high school. And I can tell you that he is still the man that I admire most in this world.

Along the way, Todd and I have shared many blessings. And four out of five of them are here with us today.

Our oldest son, Track, though, he'll be following the presidential campaign from afar. On September 11th of last year, our son enlisted in the United States Army.

Track now serves in an infantry brigade. And on September 11th, Track will deploy to Iraq in the service of his country. And Todd and I are so proud of him and of all the fine men and women serving this country (inaudible)

PALIN: Next to Todd is our daughter, Bristol, another daughter, Willow, our youngest daughter, Piper, and over in their arms is our son, Trig, a beautiful baby boy. He was born just in April.

PALIN: His name is Trig Paxson Van Palin.

Some of life's greatest opportunities come unexpectedly. And this is certainly the case today.

I never really set out to be involved in public affairs, much less to run for this office. My mom and dad both worked at the local elementary school. And my husband and I, we both grew up working with our hands. I was just your average hockey mom in Alaska, raising...

We're busy raising our kids. I was serving as the team mom and coaching some basketball on the side. I got involved in the PTA and then was elected to the city council, and then elected mayor of my hometown, where my agenda was to stop wasteful spending, and cut property taxes, and put the people first.

I was then appointed ethics commissioner and chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. And when I found corruption there, I fought it hard, and I held the offenders to account.

Along with fellow reformers in the great state of Alaska, as governor, I've stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies, and the good-old- boy network.

When oil and gas prices went up so dramatically and the state revenues followed with that increase, I sent a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska. And we are now -- we're now embarking on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence.

I signed major ethics reform. And I appointed both Democrats and independents to serve in my administration. And I championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. In fact, I told Congress -- I told Congress, "Thanks, but no thanks," on that bridge to nowhere.

If our state wanted a bridge, I said we'd build it ourselves. Well, it's always, though, safer in politics to avoid risk, to just kind of go along with the status quo. But I didn't get into government to do the safe and easy things. A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/palins_vp_selection_speech.html




Token?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

She's already saved the US Taxpayer money and Barack's still talking big.






Token?








You really want to start throwing THAT word around?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

http://www.theimproper.com/Images/Art/Sarah%20Palin%20Miss%20Alaska.jpg

Commander In Chief

YEAH-she can pull a trigger on a 7mm MAG rifle with NO strain lol and take down a 1400 lb moose on the run or a 14 ft high bear. Yup she can be MY boss lady. Lay odds she can break trail in snow shoes too.

I've known real women in life lavy. You are no woman.





Haze, on the other hand, might be.

 

[foxinsox]

How I've missed a good old Lavy rant

I agree with you, by the way.

 

[lovetolick69]

I am a male and politically an independent, and lavender you have this dead right. Be as prolix as you like; you are very much to the point. Could not agree more. This move may help with some voters, but the vast majority of thinking voters will see it for what it is. The choice says so much about McCain's judgment, and I think it is going to come back to bite him in the butt.

Ca'n A is such a jerk, evryone should just ignore him.

 

[piove_essa]

Oh Capt. - don't think just because YOUR fucking loon candidate DID pick a woman for obvious, debase and illegitiamate reasons means that all that oppose and/or dislike this painful wench base their entire argument or opinions on it. She is a fucker whether or not she has a penis or a vagina, whether she is rich or poor, whatever her religion or ethnicity.

 

[Lasher]

Token?

Well, she is a politician and her comments on the bridge become more self-serving as time goes on.

When she was running for governor, she suggested the bridges should be built as quickly as possible to take advantage of having Stevens and Young in office to bring home the pork.

Her position on that changed after she became governor and the federal government cut off the funding. Apparently she was less enthusiastic about spending state funds on the bridges than federal funds.

Of course, now she was against them from the very beginning. It's just politics, after all.

See below:

Democrats and left-leaning bloggers are already scrubbing the Palin claims on the Bridge to Nowhere, a symbol of pork-barrel projects that Senator McCain always mentions. Over at The New Republic’s The Plank blog, Bradford Plumer begins a fact-check of this claim, first citing an answer she gave in an Anchorage Daily News article in October 2006 when Ms. Palin was running for the gubernatorial seat:

5. Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?

Yes. I would like to see Alaska’s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now–while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.

So she was very much for the bridge and insisted that Alaska had to act quickly—the party of Ted Stevens and Don Young might soon lose its majority, after all. By that point, though, the project was endangered for reasons that had nothing to do with Palin—the “Bridge to Nowhere” had become a national punchline, Congress had stripped away the offending earmark, moving the money back to the state’s general fund, and future federal support seemed unlikely. True, after Palin was sworn into office that fall, her first state budget didn’t allocate any money for the bridge. But when the Daily News asked on December 16, 2006, if she now opposed the project, Palin demurred and said she was simply trying to figure out where the bridge fit on the state’s list of transportation priorities, given the lack of support from Congress. Finally, on September 19, 2007, she decided to redirect funds away from the project altogether with this sorry-sounding statement:

“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer,” said Governor Palin. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added. “Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/defining-sarah-palin/

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Oh Capt. - don't think just because YOUR fucking loon candidate DID pick a woman for obvious, debase and illegitiamate reasons means that all that oppose and/or dislike this painful wench base their entire argument or opinions on it. She is a fucker whether or not she has a penis or a vagina, whether she is rich or poor, whatever her religion or ethnicity.

I'm voting for Bob Barr. Quit projecting. But do keep up the bile...





THAT's gonna win an election!




Oh yeah!

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

And so it begins...





Sarah gets the examination Barack never got...

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

They're not going to play with her anymore fairly than they did with Hillary.





A black President is THAT important...








Women go first!

 

[piove_essa]

Projecting ?
?
What ?

I am not voting in this election.
I wish like fuck that meant that I did not have to fucking care about it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I agree.

I wasn't angry at first. just annoyed at how obvious the patronization was. then I talked to my mother. she was PISSED. after listening to her rant which was basically what you said here, I was pretty angry myself.

I think McCain's done the opposite of what he intended with his pick. I think women everywhere are seeing through the bullshit and it'll hurt him more than help.

I had lunch yesterday with a woman who has a framed personally autographed picture of Ronald Reagan on her wall. She was positively seething and horribly embarrassed about McCain's choice "He's only met her ONCE!"

I'm feeling pretty good about Barack Obama's chances now!

 

[RawHumor]

Okay, let me preface this by saying that, like most people, I have no idea about this woman.

However, who could McCain have picked that wouldn't have led to such a thread (aside from picking Hillary, I mean)?

If McCain had picked one of the people from, say, one of Limbaugh's lists, it would have been business as usual.

If he picks a black man or a woman, the word "token" is out before the Veep candidate even has had time to shake hands with their new running mate.

I half expected him to choose Lieberman, and that would have led to acid from the left about how much of Lieberman sold out (but would have led to an interesting election this year, I think).

I'll be honest - I don't know who I'm voting for this year. The Democrats are all about sex appeal... the Republicans have pretty much jumped the shark. I liked a lot of things that Biden and Obama had to say, but as DCL said, the ticket would be a lot stronger (but again, not nearly as sexy) if Biden were on top.

Who's that guy from the Libertarian party again?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

I know what is going to bother lavy and the lib women the most, but thay can't come out and say it.

They vote lockstep Democrat over the one issue, abortion. With the Democrats the men who say the right thing and with the Republcans, you get men telling them what to do with their bodies, and then here's this woman, with a mass of fetal tissue that should have been aborted after their long hard struggle to make it an accepted practice.

Now, here's a woman, a woman who made that choice and made the wrong choice, and they are afraid of that profile in courage. You can debate about a bridge all you want, but you can't debate her love and respect for life.

I'd vote for that if I didn't detest McCain so much.






And what hurts the most is she has most of what they covet the most for themselves...

Meow!

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Okay, let me preface this by saying that, like most people, I have no idea about this woman.

However, who could McCain have picked that wouldn't have led to such a thread (aside from picking Hillary, I mean)?

If McCain had picked one of the people from, say, one of Limbaugh's lists, it would have been business as usual.

If he picks a black man or a woman, the word "token" is out before the Veep candidate even has had time to shake hands with their new running mate.

I half expected him to choose Lieberman, and that would have led to acid from the left about how much of Lieberman sold out (but would have led to an interesting election this year, I think).

I'll be honest - I don't know who I'm voting for this year. The Democrats are all about sex appeal... the Republicans have pretty much jumped the shark. I liked a lot of things that Biden and Obama had to say, but as DCL said, the ticket would be a lot stronger (but again, not nearly as sexy) if Biden were on top.

Who's that guy from the Libertarian party again?

Bingo!

Thank you for being honest. My turn.

I am NOT RawHumor...

He's funnier than I am.

 

[pinkstarfish]

I completely agree. It's insulting to all American women, but especially Hillary supporters.

I bet you that if Obama hadn't selected Biden and picked Hillary, Palin wouldn't have been on the table anymore.

McCain will obviously try anything to get elected at this point.

Hearing Palin talk about the 18,000,000 cracks in her acceptance speech made me cringe.

 

[commonfreeman]

And you think Hillary is that qualified? She is a two term Senator who had to choose a state she could win in by using the Clinton name. If she had not been Bill Clinton wife she never been a senator. There are many other women in politics that have made it on their own accomplishments. And being married to the President does not make you presidential material or qualify you for the job. Next time you get surgery have the wife, or husband ,of the doctor perform it. The same analysis apllies to Obama. It not so much Tokenism that the issue here, it that we are all just being marketed too instead of really voting on the issues and policies. Both parties are doing it.

 

[jomar]

You don't call in to talk radio do you?

Never have before. Been tempted once or twice but thought better of it.

Are you sure, Lavy? I could have sworn I heard you call in on NPR.

You best get over to hillaryclintonforum.net where the women are voting the vagina ticket, not issues. They need your advice.