Are protestors justified

[Ishmael]

in their actions? Violation of private property, blocking public conveyance, interfering with the day to day activities of their fellow citizens? Resisting arrest and generally not obeying the lawful orders of the police?

Is this justifiable behavior?

Ishmael

 

[Blazes B.]

Throwing snowballs at soldiers on Boston Common, dumping tea into the harbor.

 

[nimbus9]

yeah, that is how we did it during Nam. Worked pretty well.

 

[Purrde Flower]

Throwing snowballs at soldiers on Boston Common, dumping tea into the harbor.

Your right. Several million people haven't learned hpow to behave as an adult in the last few hundred years. Bad parenting.

 

[theGatsby]

It's called Civil Disobedience and it is an American Tradition. Perhaps you should read Henry David Thoreau's essay on the subject.

 

[lisalove]

While their feelings and intentions may be justified, taking it to a dangerous and unlawful level is absolutely not.

Anything taken to an extreme becomes dangerous.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

Yes we did Nimbus.

And we were wrong. Dead wrong.

Freedom of speech means the minority opinion can be heard. It cannot be forced upon someone and that is what it has come to. These protestors should be given the stongest sentence possible.

They lost in the arena of free discourse, so they result in civil disobedience. I am ashamed of how I was used and manipulated during Viet Nam by the American-Socialist movement. I vowed it would not happen again.

Despite being an athiest,

God Bless America.

A_J

 

[Avery_Chisholm]

they should all be RUN over bastards

 

[MissTaken]

It's called Civil Disobedience and it is an American Tradition. Perhaps you should read Henry David Thoreau's essay on the subject.

Civil?

Until the point at which laws are broken, it is civil.

How Civil is it when localities are pouring out tax dollars to help the Civil protestors remain Civil?

 

[MissTaken]

Yes we did Nimbus.

And we were wrong. Dead wrong.

Freedom of speech means the minority opinion can be heard. It cannot be forced upon someone and that is what it has come to. These protestors should be given the stongest sentence possible.

They lost in the arena of free discourse, so they result in civil disobedience. I am ashamed of how I was used and manipulated during Viet Nam by the American-Socialist movement. I vowed it would not happen again.

Despite being an athiest,

God Bless America.

A_J

Good post, A_J.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

 

[Purrde Flower]

they should all be RUN over bastards

I think so too. Or keep driving slow enough to push them out of the way. But then you would get arrested for murder or somehting like that.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

The Marines should test their new glue and other humanitarian weapons on them.

 

[Lost Cause]

Nope.......

They're justified in peaceable protests, but the lunatics are just frustrated because their positions are constantly proven false. They are in meltdown, R.I.P.
Boiled down, it's fuck Bush, fuck America, let's vomit!

 

[theGatsby]

Civil?

Until the point at which laws are broken, it is civil.

How Civil is it when localities are pouring out tax dollars to help the Civil protestors remain Civil?

How Civil is it when billions of our tax dollars that will inevitably require cuts in social progams for our children and children's children are being poured into a hopeless war that will result in more violence and more terror?

Actually the true definition of Civil Disobedience is breaking the law in protest to government policies.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

This war requires less than 1% of our GDP.

The cheapest war in history, unlike the war on poverty which seems to get more victims with each additional dollar funded...

 

[Ishmael]

How Civil is it when billions of our tax dollars that will inevitably require cuts in social progams for our children and children's children are being poured into a hopeless war that will result in more violence and more terror?

Actually the true definition of Civil Disobedience is breaking the law in protest to government policies.

Children don't require social programs. They require parents that care. It is not the governments job to raise America's children and anyone with half a brain would be scared shitless that the government would want to.

And Thoreau went to jail.

Ishmael

 

[k¡tty]

Anyone and everyone has the right to protest anything they wish to, in this country.

But when they cross the line from peaceful protestors to the aggressors they deserve to be punished for their crimes because that's simply what they've become.. criminals. Spraying the police men and women, who are there simply to make sure that things remain calm, with pepper spray.. how does that help their 'cause'?

 

[Gilly Bean]

Protestors are justified in stating their oppinions.

When it gets down to oppresing other's cival rights, and destroying property, they forfeit that right.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

Abortion protestors too.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

And tree spikers.

 

[Ishmael]

And tree spikers.

And that is the point, isn't it?

The very folks that are justifying the behaviors of the peace "protestors" are the same folks that would be calling for a lynch mob if a group of fundamentalist Christians were to use the same tactics at an abortion clinic. (And they have called for "special protection", haven't they?)

"I can gore your ox, but you can't gore mine?"

Fucking hypocrits.

Ishmael

PS. I was going to let the thread run a little longer before I sprung that trap. Should have never started a thread like this with an Indian guide hanging around.

 

[k¡tty]

PS. I was going to let the thread run a little longer before I sprung that trap. Should have never started a thread like this with an Indian guide hanging around.

Isn't it a bitch when someone comes along and spoils the punchline of your joke? ;-)

 

[theGatsby]

Children don't require social programs. They require parents that care. It is not the governments job to raise America's children and anyone with half a brain would be scared shitless that the government would want to.

And Thoreau went to jail.

Ishmael

I was not referring to Government raising children but to the simple fact that the only way to pay for this war will be to raise taxes and/or cut social programs, and that will likely happen when our children or their children are old enough to bare the brunt of said taxes and/or cuts.

Going to jail was Thoreau's point. Perhaps you should read it.

Abortion protestors have the same rights and justifications as the peace protestors. Violence should always be avoided no matter the message.

 

[]ooooo(chained)]

What the fawk did I say now!

Elvis has left the building...

Night all.