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[onehitwanda]

They probably have a cut-off age for stuff that shifts it from the new list to the old list, but they've fucked the jobs so badly that new stuff isn't having time to show up before it passes the cut-off

Or they fucked up timezones.

Or they've tried to roll back but the roll back failed.

It would be educational if we weren't trapped in the wildly-spinning cogs.

 

[stickygirl]

Did anyone see the cat move? ... broken link already

 

[StillStunned]

All this is making me quite glad I don't have any new stories this week.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

They probably have a cut-off age for stuff that shifts it from the new list to the old list, but they've fucked the jobs so badly that new stuff isn't having time to show up before it passes the cut-off

Or they fucked up timezones.

Or they've tried to roll back but the roll back failed.

It would be educational if we weren't trapped in the wildly-spinning cogs.

The irony is, there seems to be the talent available in this forum to help fix these issues and many of us would probably be willing to do a little pro bono work to help the site succeed. Not sure I want to wrangle those cats, but still...

 

[SugarStorm]

Or they've tried to roll back but the roll back failed.

This one would have been interesting to know... The silence from them is remarkable.

 

[crookedletter]

I'm very curious about the administration of this site. Who knows how much they're charging for their ads, but with the amount of traffic here I would think they could monetize it enough to hire some help.

It strikes me as kind of just a pet project/hobby, just one that happens to have a large and demanding user base.

 

[onehitwanda]

I'm very curious about the administration of this site. Who knows how much they're charging for their ads, but with the amount of traffic here I would think they could monetize it enough to hire some help.

It strikes me as kind of just a pet project/hobby, just one that happens to have a large and demanding user base.

Most of the readers probably don't even see any of these underlying issues. The consumption side all appears fine to casual users.

The issues, however, are completely fucking up the production side of their content mill, and that's a bad place to be. Stop the publishing of new stories, and the site deranks and dies.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Or they've tried to roll back but the roll back failed.

A lot of small teams don't do the work to prep for rollbacks - 'why waste our time, we can fix it on the fly"

Having been a user on the receiving end of "upgrades" at work.....I am really familiar with the WTF Count from User Acceptance Testing in production

"That's what you users are for, right? Live testing..."

 

[TheWritingGroup]

All this is making me quite glad I don't have any new stories this week.

I have a completed novel I was going to upload probably in a day or two. I might delay it.

--Annie

 

[ChloeTzang]

I have a completed novel I was going to upload probably in a day or two. I might delay it.

--Annie

I shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't!!!!!!!

 

[crookedletter]

I have a completed novel I was going to upload probably in a day or two. I might delay it.

--Annie

This is the sort of thing that should be troubling to the site owners. Next up: "I might post it somewhere else."

 

[ChloeTzang]

I am so here for these upgrades.....

 

[ChloeTzang]

This is the sort of thing that should be troubling to the site owners. Next up: "I might post it somewhere else."

Oh, that's already happening as a result of AI Rejections and the Pending issue and it's past "might". I've raised this as Feedback and PM's Laurel as well - the site needs to have way more visibility on these issues as they ARE starting to lose authors. I'm aware of a few personally and there;s likely more just going withut saying anything

Really, it's okay to have issues but you need to be up front with your users and have contingency steps to deal with the issues that are responsive and work

The AI issue is a big one and it's causing authors to move elsewhere - when your story is rejected, you never used AI and you can't get a response from the site and your story won't go thru, what other choice do you have.....

I do understand Literitica is working to upgrade the site and that it's necessary - the old UI is pretty ancient, but you also need to let your users know whats going on and if their are issues, you need to be accessible and you need to respond. Lit may not be ignoring these problems, they may be aware of them, but, simply, we don't know that. We have no view as to what's going on and these issues impact us - the AI Rejection and Pending Issues impact us bigly - the activity feed not so much, it's an inconvenience - but the AI and Pending ones are show stoppers.

 

[Aoife_from_Ulster]

All this is making me quite glad I don't have any new stories this week.

I have five chapters, to finish a series I am trying to have published before the middle of November. Then we get into the Winter contest and then V-day is due in Jan.

I looked this morning int and my new feed is now in my Archived

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

This one would have been interesting to know... The silence from them is remarkable.

But not exceptional. there are hundreds if not thousands of us and only two of them. Sure they could communicate better en masse, but to do so with our individual concerns would be problematic. I'm pretty sure Manu is kind of busy right now, and just might be waiting until he has something concrete to say.

 

[DEFCOM5]

How of curiosity, does anyone know the economics of the site?

Do they make only money from the cams add?

Running the site and the ever expanding data is not cheap

 

[stickygirl]

How of curiosity, does anyone know the economics of the site?

Do they make only money from the cams add?

Running the site and the ever expanding data is not cheap

You get billed for the stories you’ve posted after a year

 

[Lumiere_Amie]

I have Actvity!

 

[Actingup]

Oh, that's already happening as a result of AI Rejections and the Pending issue and it's past "might". I've raised this as Feedback and PM's Laurel as well - the site needs to have way more visibility on these issues as they ARE starting to lose authors. I'm aware of a few personally and there;s likely more just going withut saying anything

Really, it's okay to have issues but you need to be up front with your users and have contingency steps to deal with the issues that are responsive and work

The AI issue is a big one and it's causing authors to move elsewhere - when your story is rejected, you never used AI and you can't get a response from the site and your story won't go thru, what other choice do you have.....

I do understand Literitica is working to upgrade the site and that it's necessary - the old UI is pretty ancient, but you also need to let your users know whats going on and if their are issues, you need to be accessible and you need to respond. Lit may not be ignoring these problems, they may be aware of them, but, simply, we don't know that. We have no view as to what's going on and these issues impact us - the AI Rejection and Pending Issues impact us bigly - the activity feed not so much, it's an inconvenience - but the AI and Pending ones are show stoppers.

I’ve been conceptualising a story set in a Willy Wonka chocolate room kind of factory floor, where enormous pipes are streaming bubble-tea looking liquids labelled ‘T/I’, ‘LW’ etc around the space, and a bunch of Oompa Loompas are frantically scurrying around plugging leaks, trying to stop vats exploding and so on while the pressure in the pipes is ever-increasing. A shadowy dungeon master sits in a cave underneath trying to coordinate the workers, while up above somewhere a matriarch is frantically flipping input knobs and levers while dealing with many ringing telephones with her many arms.

I’m struggling with the plot elements though. When the central mixing vat explodes and messy fecundity sprays everywhere, can the factory be rescued?

 

[TheDok]

This is the sort of thing that should be troubling to the site owners. Next up: "I might post it somewhere else."

I think that we, as authors, may be missing the point, which is that in the short to medium term, we are overvaluing ourselves. Put simply, this site has operated for many years because of a stream of contributors who have been "working" for free and, in many ways, have been taken for granted. Even if all contributions dried up tomorrow, there is enough material on the site for readers to continue to read for years, and none of us is privy to the plans of those who run the site. Readers of this site, particularly the countless anonymous ones, will be completely unaware of the way everything seems to be limping along at present. I would love a little bit more feedback from Manu and Laurel, but I'm not holding my breath. Why would things change at this stage?

 

[Lumiere_Amie]

I have Actvity!
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Well, that was short lived. Now it’s disappeared, and it’s not in the archive.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I think that we, as authors, may be missing the point, which is that in the short to medium term, we are overvaluing ourselves. Put simply, this site has operated for many years because of a stream of contributors who have been "working" for free and, in many ways, have been taken for granted. Even if all contributions dried up tomorrow, there is enough material on the site for readers to continue to read for years, and none of us is privy to the plans of those who run the site. Readers of this site, particularly the countless anonymous ones, will be completely unaware of the way everything seems to be limping along at present. I would love a little bit more feedback from Manu and Laurel, but I'm not holding my breath. Why would things change at this stage?

Sadly true, we are all disposable. I’ve heard there were mass departures in the past. Didn’t seem to stop the site.

Still goose that lays the golden eggs…

 

[crookedletter]

I think that we, as authors, may be missing the point, which is that in the short to medium term, we are overvaluing ourselves. Put simply, this site has operated for many years because of a stream of contributors who have been "working" for free and, in many ways, have been taken for granted. Even if all contributions dried up tomorrow, there is enough material on the site for readers to continue to read for years, and none of us is privy to the plans of those who run the site. Readers of this site, particularly the countless anonymous ones, will be completely unaware of the way everything seems to be limping along at present. I would love a little bit more feedback from Manu and Laurel, but I'm not holding my breath. Why would things change at this stage?

I’m no expert, but from my limited experience and what I’ve seen around the forum, it seems to me that new stories get far more attention than the old ones. I’m sure there are some classics that stay in the Lit zeitgeist, but by and large it seems that readers are looking for new content.

Maybe there would be enough of a readership to keep a stagnant pool of existing stories alive, but I think if the content machine really ground to a halt it would have an appreciable effect on traffic.

Not saying that’s what’s happening. But if I were in charge I’d want to get my shit together to ensure it doesn’t.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I’m no expert, but from my limited experience and what I’ve seen around the forum, it seems to be that new stories get far more attention than the old ones. I’m sure there are some classics that stay in the Lit zeitgeist, but by and large it seems that readers are looking for new content.

Maybe there would be enough of a readership to keep a stagnant pool of existing stories alive, but I think if the content machine really ground to a halt it would have an appreciable effect on traffic.

Not saying that’s what’s happening. But if I were in charge I’d want to get my shit together to ensure it doesn’t.

Or maybe we can mitigate by just setting our expectations appropriately. This is a huge site with minimal resources. In the grand scheme, the issues with the Activity screen we've been enduring the past day or so, and the delays in publishing are minor hiccups in a very long, very successful run. I'd suggest, the positive changes they've made in the past few years far outweigh these small inconveniences. I get worse response on technical issues from Microsoft than I do Lit.

 

[crookedletter]

Or maybe we can mitigate by just setting our expectations appropriately. This is a huge site with minimal resources. In the grand scheme, the issues with the Activity screen we've been enduring the past day or so, and the delays in publishing are minor hiccups in a very long, very successful run. I'd suggest, the positive changes they've made in the past few years far outweigh these small inconveniences. I get worse response on technical issues from Microsoft than I do Lit.

Fair enough. And to be clear I’m not advocating anyone pack up and leave, or suggesting there’s an emergency. I just think it’s concerning when people begin to question whether or not they should post their work, on a site that depends on people posting their work.