Anyone for a nightcap?

[intothewoods]

I can't believe that people are so ignorant to say something like that.

If anything your kids have it better. There is more tradition maintained in your holiday AND they get days of present not just one.

My uncle married a jewish woman and they kind of have tried to combine the holidays. They have a christmas tree and a minorah (sorry if I slaughtered the spelling itw ).
It works for them.

I'll be honest. I'm not a fan of combining the holidays. I think it's kind of confusing for the kids. But hey, my job is to worry about my kid. I don't run around policing mixed mariages.

I'm raising a jew. It's hard to explain that to people, because I think non-jews immediately thing that's about a belief in God, or not. In other words, but a tree isn't religious! For me, it's really about culture, tradition and ethnicity. It's about having a Jewish home.

Eh, anyway. I do think Christmas is a beautiful holiday, and I love seeing all the lights this time of year.

 

[intothewoods]

Chris' BF?

Fred's gonna win, man. What we need is somebody who, in my opinion, is going to look, sound and act Presidential.

W is a good President.. he just doesn't have good PR skills.

Sure, he does look and sound Presidential. But he hasn't really shown the substance yet. His campaign has released a lot of position papers recently though, which is a start.

What is your definition of a good president?

 

[Homburg]

I voted Ventura 'cause he actually outdebated the other two like you would not believe and brought personal conviction to politics, was a breath of fresh air etc etc. My far-left friends thought I was insane, but if you listened to the debate he was the only one not talking out his ass with canned responses.

Never again do I do that. Conviction didn't balance our budget, give us bridges that didn't fall down or keep our schools from going from some of the best to mediocre.

Pfft, we're talking the president, not something actually usefu like a governor. I don't want an idealist for governor. I want a doer. It's a different idea. Put an idealist in the big chair to provide the tone, and put doers in the places where the rubber hits the road.

 

[Homburg]

I wish I could quit you, Homburg!

*sings "Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiii will always love yoooooooooo-oooouuuuuuu..."

I'm glad we have both Ron Paul and Kucinich in the race righ now, because they do shake things up. Edwards too.

Edwards is doing something? I thought he just had pretty hair =P

Hillary and Barack seem to be sucking up all the oxygen on the democrat side. I'm blinded by Obama's Sun God impression, and Hillary is an 800# gorilla in expensive pumps.

 

[JMohegan]

I don't care if the president thinks we were blown out of the nose of the Great Gazoo, as long as he leaves science class the fuck alone. If you can't handle it for your kids opt them out, nuff said. Children eventually grow older and no matter how they are indoctrinated or taught make decisions on what they believe and sometimes parents are elated and sometimes dismayed and I find it funny when people, religious or not, think that they can stop an idea once it takes.

I actually have no problem with a Mormon, a Jew, an Atheist, another Catholic or whoever is up for the job if they are on board with this Church/State separation gig. I actually think that people who have been crapped on as often as Mormons might actually get the value of not commingling these things MORE not less.

I don't think I want the man in charge of anything, but I will say he made me laugh on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me on NPR and he seems charming. I wish people would just invite him out for that beer he'd be fun to go out with over, instead of thinking this is leadership quality.

The problem is that the requisite humility to say to oneself "I believe that God made us in seven days, personally" but have the self control to leave everyone else ALONE is completely absent too often.

So, I would have a nightcap with Mike Huckabee given the chance.

I agree that Huckabee seems affable, with a good sense of humor to boot. I'd join you for that beer.

Huckabee seems genuine and sincere, but the problem I see with sincere religious politicians is not so much a lack of humility, but rather a fundamental conflict between absolute faith in God and a stance that permits alternate life choices. If abortion is murder and gay marriage is unacceptable 'cause God said so, then these things are unacceptable period. It's a belief that God trumps everyone else, not that Huckabee himself does, that cements Huckabee's views.

Of course, one might rightfully note that Huckabee's guess as to what God does or does not want is no better or worse than anyone else's. But by definition, people of faith don't see things that way.

As for the Mormon Romney, he is as vile a fear-and-hate-monger as they come. Mormon has nothing to do with it, but I view him as an opportunist who is neither sincere nor ethical. "Vote for me and I'll protect you from immigrants and gays." In a nutshell, that's his shtick.

 

[JMohegan]

Sure, he does look and sound Presidential.

I disagree.

Fred Thompson looks like he hasn't slept in six months, and sounds just like any other Southern conservative politician.

From me, that's not a compliment.

 

[JMohegan]

I just watched the Republican debates actually.

I watched it, too.

If you had to pick one guy from the group on stage, for whom would you vote?

 

[intothewoods]

I agree that Huckabee seems affable, with a good sense of humor to boot. I'd join you for that beer.

Huckabee seems genuine and sincere, but the problem I see with sincere religious politicians is not so much a lack of humility, but rather a fundamental conflict between absolute faith in God and a stance that permits alternate life choices. If abortion is murder and gay marriage is unacceptable 'cause God said so, then these things are unacceptable period. It's a belief that God trumps everyone else, not that Huckabee himself does, that cements Huckabee's views.

Of course, one might rightfully note that Huckabee's guess as to what God does or does not want is no better or worse than anyone else's. But by definition, people of faith don't see things that way.

Exactly. And I agree about the beer. I love that he said he'd take the Log Cabin Republicans' endorsement, if offered.

As for the Mormon Romney, he is as vile a fear-and-hate-monger as they come. Mormon has nothing to do with it, but I view him as an opportunist who is neither sincere nor ethical. "Vote for me and I'll protect you from immigrants and gays." In a nutshell, that's his shtick.

More importantly, I don't trust his hair.

 

[intothewoods]

I disagree.

Fred Thompson looks like he hasn't slept in six months, and sounds just like any other Southern conservative politician.

From me, that's not a compliment.

Really? He seems to have that easygoing way about him that folks just love. He sounds a little cranky, but not as bad as Dick Cheney. Remember the Dick Cheney youtube cartoon? And then Fred said, for a minute I thought that was me...? I did too!!!

 

[intothewoods]

I watched it, too.

If you had to pick one guy from the group on stage, for whom would you vote?

From that stage only? Anderson Cooper. Ok ok. Seriously. That is really, really tough. I like some of Guliani's politics, but he was pretty anti-civil liberties when he was mayor prior to 9-11 and I do kinda feel partial to my civil liberties. I like John McCain on some issues, like campaign finance, but he's too conservative on others, and besides, he sold his soul to the Bushies. I just can't vote for him. I guess I'd vote for Guliani.

 

[intothewoods]

*sings "Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiii will always love yoooooooooo-oooouuuuuuu..."

I love the original of that song - the Dolly Parton version. Makes me cry every time.

Edwards is doing something? I thought he just had pretty hair =P

Hillary and Barack seem to be sucking up all the oxygen on the democrat side. I'm blinded by Obama's Sun God impression, and Hillary is an 800# gorilla in expensive pumps.

Don't mess with my man Edwards! He's definitely more candid than Obama and Hillary, and I like his positions. The Dems drive me batshit crazy. Don't get me started.

 

[Homburg]

I love the original of that song - the Dolly Parton version. Makes me cry every time.

Her breasts make me cry =P

Don't mess with my man Edwards! He's definitely more candid than Obama and Hillary, and I like his positions. The Dems drive me batshit crazy. Don't get me started.

*shrug* They all drive me crazy, ITW. Seriously. The parties are dog and pony shows, and politics is more about presence than platforms.

 

[JMohegan]

I love that he said he'd take the Log Cabin Republicans' endorsement, if offered.

Why they would offer it, I can't imagine. But I agree that his response was gracious.

Remember the Dick Cheney youtube cartoon? And then Fred said, for a minute I thought that was me...? I did too!!!

Ha, Ha - Yes, me too!

From that stage only? Anderson Cooper. Ok ok. Seriously. That is really, really tough. I like some of Guliani's politics, but he was pretty anti-civil liberties when he was mayor prior to 9-11 and I do kinda feel partial to my civil liberties. I like John McCain on some issues, like campaign finance, but he's too conservative on others, and besides, he sold his soul to the Bushies. I just can't vote for him. I guess I'd vote for Guliani.

Cooper, ha ha. Good one.

Giuliani was far from the worst guy up there, but I honestly don't think he's ready for the national/international stage. I also don't think most people realize just how undiplomatic and abrasive Giuliani can be.

McCain came off as the most informed, experienced, and intelligent guy on that stage (all things being relative). Choosing just from that group, I'd probably vote for him. Regardless of any hypothetical voting, I give major props to McCain for having the balls to take a stand against torture.

 

[intothewoods]

Why they would offer it, I can't imagine. But I agree that his response was gracious.

Yeah - they're gay, not masochists!

Giuliani was far from the worst guy up there, but I honestly don't think he's ready for the national/international stage. I also don't think most people realize just how undiplomatic and abrasive Giuliani can be.

That's a fair criticism, although I think he's smoothed out his rough edges some over the years. Plus, frankly, as long as no one on his staff refers to France and Germany as "Old Europe," we're improving.

McCain came off as the most informed, experienced, and intelligent guy on that stage (all things being relative). Choosing just from that group, I'd probably vote for him. Regardless of any hypothetical voting, I give major props to McCain for having the balls to take a stand against torture.

McCain looked good last night. Absolutely. I'm pleased with his statements against torture, although it's incredibly sad someone has to "take a stand against torture"! Should kinda be a no-brainer.

 

[intothewoods]

Her breasts make me cry =P

Boo hoo. Goof.

*shrug* They all drive me crazy, ITW. Seriously. The parties are dog and pony shows, and politics is more about presence than platforms.

I understand the feeling, I really do, but it's that kind of thinking that got W elected in the first place. Of course, to that Mister Man likes to retort, no, it was the Supreme Court! But really, there are differences, especially between the parties, and also between the candidates.

 

[the_pet]

Mike Huckabee is "Chuck Norris Approved".

Did you know that Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer!

But Chuck Norris doesn't cry!

 

[Bi_Kitty]

Mine and Bunny's plan for the night....go over to our friend's apartment and drink the night away. Another night to celebrate Bunny's birthday!

I loveeeeeeeeeeee birthdays!!!!

 

[RunningJib]

Nothing like a good Mexican Hug

EWWWW THEY'RE HUGGING IN PUBLIC!

Thane and jib sitting in a tree . . . Maybe I should shut up.

We Mexicans are very passionate lot. Give us a drink, perhaps a bit of food, sooner or later we're going to sing and dance. And when we're having a good time--everyone gets a good ole fashion Mexican hug.

(And when between two gentlemen, it's called an embrace)

 

[subkitty72]

We Mexicans are very passionate lot. Give us a drink, perhaps a bit of food, sooner or later we're going to sing and dance. And when we're having a good time--everyone gets a good ole fashion Mexican hug.

(And when between two gentlemen, it's called an embrace)

Eres Mexicano?

My parents are from Guadalajara and i was born in Los Angeles.

Good to see my peeps representin'!

 

[Essene]

Nala dear...

Malin and I.. along with my brother.. my nephew..and most of our friends.. and quote the movie.. and for Christmas one year.. Malin bought me the book..


*grin*

its one of my favorite scenes.. just the sound of his voice when he says "...every woman who cries out, "Dear God! What is that thing..." and I swear.. after the hundreds..if not thousands of times I've seen it.. I still get chills when I hear, "Drop.. your... sword"

Well I knew exactly what he was talking about as well. "The Princess Bride" is my second most watched movie. I also have the original form of the book.

I also have Shakespeare's collected works. *shrug*

If you're weird then I'm weird.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

I really really need a shot of cuervo...

 

[Homburg]

I understand the feeling, I really do, but it's that kind of thinking that got W elected in the first place. Of course, to that Mister Man likes to retort, no, it was the Supreme Court! But really, there are differences, especially between the parties, and also between the candidates.

I didn't vote for W either time.

The first time he got elected was because Al Gore temporarily displaced his balls. If Gore had gone after the presidential compaign trail with the passion he showed in the run-up to his movie, damn, he would've had no problems getting votes.

The second time? Kerry. Nuff said.

Are there substantive differences between the parties? I see them differing largely by degress, not substantively. At their core, they exist to get reelected and maintain power and prestige. The business of running the country comes a distant third to those two aims.

 

[DeservingBitch]

I love the original of that song - the Dolly Parton version. Makes me cry every time.

Oh i love that song too -- by Dolly of course. And i just love Dolly Parton. She's also the author of one of my favorite quotes ever: in response to a question about her numerous esthetic surgeries and other body modification, she said, with her sexy accent, "yep - it takes a looot of money to look that cheap!". Brilliant.

 

[intothewoods]

I didn't vote for W either time.

The first time he got elected was because Al Gore temporarily displaced his balls. If Gore had gone after the presidential compaign trail with the passion he showed in the run-up to his movie, damn, he would've had no problems getting votes.

The second time? Kerry. Nuff said.

Are there substantive differences between the parties? I see them differing largely by degress, not substantively. At their core, they exist to get reelected and maintain power and prestige. The business of running the country comes a distant third to those two aims.

I'm not quite that cynical. It's the nature of the beast that they have to spend that much energy getting reelected. I do also think that certain actions of the Bush White House were so unconsionable (the decision to invade Iraq, the suggestion that there was a link between Al Quaeda and Hussein, disregard for civil liberties, and on) that continued membership in the Republican party is like crossing a line in the sand. Crossing that line makes you different. Yes, the Democrats are a bunch of pussies, but they aren't that bad.

 

[intothewoods]

Oh i love that song too -- by Dolly of course. And i just love Dolly Parton. She's also the author of one of my favorite quotes ever: in response to a question about her numerous esthetic surgeries and other body modification, she said, with her sexy accent, "yep - it takes a looot of money to look that cheap!". Brilliant.

Dolly is amazing. And I'm not even a country fan.