Angelina Jolie mastectomy a corporate scam and PR stunt

[Mike_Yates]

The world is a sick and twisted place, isn't it?

http://www.infowars.com/angelina-jo...eme-to-protect-billions-in-brca-gene-patents/

 

[CandiCame]

This article is full of shit because they don't know anything about being a cancer patient. You CANNOT COPYRIGHT A PART OF THE HUMAN GENOME. What the company that produces the test actually owns is the rights to the testing procedure, which, yeah, is shitty because it'll prevent generics and you have to buy testing materials from them, but that's really all this article says. It doesn't make a person's potential death any less real or a "publicity stunt". And that's standard procedure in the way we do treatment here in the states. They're not gonna release that and make it publicly available because that's a marketing disaster. What this article actually says is, "Company does exactly what every other company has ever done. It's a slow news week so we're trying to find a connection that doesn't exist".

 

[Liar]

This article is full of shit because they don't know anything about being a cancer patient. You CANNOT COPYRIGHT A PART OF THE HUMAN GENOME. What the company that produces the test actually owns is the rights to the testing procedure, which, yeah, is shitty because it'll prevent generics and you have to buy testing materials from them, but that's really all this article says. It doesn't make a person's potential death any less real or a "publicity stunt". And that's standard procedure in the way we do treatment here in the states. They're not gonna release that and make it publicly available because that's a marketing disaster. What this article actually says is, "Company does exactly what every other company has ever done. It's a slow news week so we're trying to find a connection that doesn't exist".

That article is full of shit because it's from Infowars.

See how much typing you could have saved?

 

[Mike_Yates]

The cancer industry is a giant money-making scam which profits from human death and misery.

You're always hearing about how a "'cure" for this cancer is only a few years away. But what most people don't understand is that curing cancer would completely and utterly bankrupt a multi-trillion dollar for-profit global industry.

These corporations are only interested in one thing, and that is NOT your health!

 

[LadyVer]

The cancer industry is a giant money-making scam which profits from human death and misery.

You're always hearing about how a "'cure" for this cancer is only a few years away. But what most people don't understand is that curing cancer would completely and utterly bankrupt a multi-trillion dollar for-profit global industry.

These corporations are only interested in one thing, and that is NOT your health!

The entire cancer industry is not a scam although I no longer support Livestrong and Susan G Komen.

 

[CandiCame]

The cancer industry is a giant money-making scam which profits from human death and misery.

You're always hearing about how a "'cure" for this cancer is only a few years away. But what most people don't understand is that curing cancer would completely and utterly bankrupt a multi-trillion dollar for-profit global industry.

These corporations are only interested in one thing, and that is NOT your health!

You've apparently never had cancer. You can't "cure" cancer because cancer is caused by a genetic mutation. Genetic mutation is also what causes evolution and this funny little thing we call life. The ability to "cure" cellular mutation would stagnate humanity- except that would never happen. We would literally have to have a god-like knowledge of genetics and perfect every child's genome at conception. And there's no way that could bite us in the ass and become a sci-fi nightmare.

You should have learned that making P-squares in 5th grade. No one has ever suggested there was going to be a 'cure' for cancer. Because a 'cure' would be one of the worst things we could conceivably do as a species that would eventually kill us all. You can lower your risk, and you can treat it once you get it, but the 'cure' can never be a 'cure' without destroying your entire genome. The only way to 'cure' cancer for good would be to DIE. You go into remission. You get better- but your genes are still against you and can come back.

I don't know why I don't have you on iggy Mike, because the shit that you've said in this thread is fucking insulting to people who have had and survived cancer.

 

[CandiCame]

That article is full of shit because it's from Infowars.

See how much typing you could have saved?

Fair enough.

 

[CandiCame]

The entire cancer industry is not a scam although I no longer support Livestrong and Susan G Komen.

"Fuck Cancer" and "Shriners" are good people. They helped me out when I was little.

 

[phrodeau]

I am stunned to learn that Mike_Yates and Once-ler are different people.

 

[CandiCame]

I am stunned to learn that Mike_Yates and Once-ler are different people.

He's my fursona.

 

[LadyVer]

"Fuck Cancer" and "Shriners" are good people. They helped me out when I was little.

Gilda's Place was there for me. Thankfully, my hospital was a block away from where I lived. I had insurance then. Sigh.

 

[CandiCame]

Gilda's Place was there for me. Thankfully, my hospital was a block away from where I lived. I had insurance then. Sigh.

I had K-chip, but they helped with shit like my birthday party and apparently travel expenses and such. I'm not sure what all they paid for, but the K-chip definitely helped a lot too. I have a lot of folk to be thankful for.

 

[LadyVer]

I had K-chip, but they helped with shit like my birthday party and apparently travel expenses and such. I'm not sure what all they paid for, but the K-chip definitely helped a lot too. I have a lot of folk to be thankful for.

Kids usually have more help. My son was in Children's hospital for a week after he was born, They're set up to make it easier for kids and their families to deal with illness. What kind of cancer did you have?

 

[CandiCame]

Kids usually have more help. My son was in Children's hospital for a week after he was born, They're set up to make it easier for kids and their families to deal with illness. What kind of cancer did you have?

I had osteosarcoma in my back when I was 4/5 and then ESFT in a rib. The one on my rib came back a few years ago when I was 16 but I knocked it out real quick and didn't need surgery or anything. The thing about that one, though, is that there was some kind of nerve damage or something from the radiation when I was little because the doctors in my hometown don't know what the fuck they're doing and it grew back wrong or someshit and anyway, the nerve there is fucked up, so sometimes I'm just sitting there and my back (even though the problem is in a rib) is like, "Dude, I know you're tryin to chill and play Smash Bros or whatever, but how about a LONG ASS JOLT OF BLOOD CURLING PAIN FOR NO GOOD REASON! YEAH? YOU LIKE THAT BITCH? WELL ENJOY IT, BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA GO ON UNTIL I DECIDE YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH!"

But they gave me pain meds and, for some reason, muscle relaxers to make it not do that. They take 20 minutes to kick in, which, in all honesty, is why I started snorting them, and that led to this whole other thing. But it hasn't acted up in like a year so I'm kinda hoping that my body just forgot about it. It does that with stuff sometimes.

 

[CandiCame]

What kind did you have?

 

[LadyVer]

What kind did you have?

An indolent, but incurable lymphoma. It's those with acute cancers that generally get told they're "cured", if the cancers aren't too metasticized. Sounds like you had a rough time for a while. Yeah, the treatments for cancers tend to leave temporary or permanent gifts. I decided if I ever undergo treatment again I was growing or buying some weed. I can't handle nausea 24/7 for too long.

 

[CandiCame]

An indolent, but incurable lymphoma. It's those with acute cancers that generally get told they're "cured", if the cancers aren't too metasticized. Sounds like you had a rough time for a while. Yeah, the treatments for cancers tend to leave temporary or permanent gifts. I decided if I ever undergo treatment again I was growing or buying some weed. I can't handle nausea 24/7 for too long.

I don't think I would care now, I didn't really give a shit then. I was little. I got a fuckton of presents, missed half my kindergarten year, and I seem to remember an assload of ice cream. And there was a preacher dude who visted me a lot for some reason. He was a friend of my dad's but he always creeped me out and I laughed at him and everybody got pissed at me. I never really got sick sick. I just looked fucking dead.

My fifth birthday we rented out this 2 story McDonalds and I had Ronald and the Hamburler and everybody and it was awesome. On the video me & the rest of the kids are all, "THIS IS THE SHIT" and all the adults are crying and shit. I totally didn't really register that I was sick or anything. I mean, I did, but I didn't, if that makes any sense.

Well, I take that back. I did get sick for a few hours right after treatment. Like deathly sick. And I couldn't do anything but watch TV, because it sucked to move. But by the next day I was done with that shit. I've always bounced back from shit pretty quick. Kids tend to bounce back faster anyway, because your immune system at that point does not give a shit. "Oh, you blasted us with radiation? Guess we better develop super healing."

 

[CandiCame]

An indolent, but incurable lymphoma. It's those with acute cancers that generally get told they're "cured", if the cancers aren't too metasticized. Sounds like you had a rough time for a while. Yeah, the treatments for cancers tend to leave temporary or permanent gifts. I decided if I ever undergo treatment again I was growing or buying some weed. I can't handle nausea 24/7 for too long.

You had one of those where it really did just mutate, you cut it out, and it probably won't mutate again. That's pretty awesome. My body can just turn on me at any minute so we're in a constant state of war.

It's all, "Sharp pain in the back!"
I'm all, "I will smoke a whole fucking pack of cigarettes, I swear to god."
It's all, "How about an intense anxiety disorder then? How about that?"
Me, "I won't eat for three fucking days if you wanna pull that shit."

And we just kind of... go like that.

It's gorgeous, but it's a bitch. That's why I don't want biological kids. My mom had cancer. My grandma had cancer. The crazy comes down on both sides. Would the goddamn condom have really been that fucking hard? WTF is wrong with my parents?

 

[LadyVer]

I don't think I would care now, I didn't really give a shit then. I was little. I got a fuckton of presents, missed half my kindergarten year, and I seem to remember an assload of ice cream. And there was a preacher dude who visted me a lot for some reason. He was a friend of my dad's but he always creeped me out and I laughed at him and everybody got pissed at me. I never really got sick sick. I just looked fucking dead.

My fifth birthday we rented out this 2 story McDonalds and I had Ronald and the Hamburler and everybody and it was awesome. On the video me & the rest of the kids are all, "THIS IS THE SHIT" and all the adults are crying and shit. I totally didn't really register that I was sick or anything. I mean, I did, but I didn't, if that makes any sense.

Well, I take that back. I did get sick for a few hours right after treatment. Like deathly sick. And I couldn't do anything but watch TV, because it sucked to move. But by the next day I was done with that shit. I've always bounced back from shit pretty quick. Kids tend to bounce back faster anyway, because your immune system at that point does not give a shit. "Oh, you blasted us with radiation? Guess we better develop super healing."

I can imagine that kids usually experience illness differently. Sounds like you had some interesting experiences.

 

[LadyVer]

You had one of those where it really did just mutate, you cut it out, and it probably won't mutate again. That's pretty awesome. My body can just turn on me at any minute so we're in a constant state of war.

It's all, "Sharp pain in the back!"
I'm all, "I will smoke a whole fucking pack of cigarettes, I swear to god."
It's all, "How about an intense anxiety disorder then? How about that?"
Me, "I won't eat for three fucking days if you wanna pull that shit."

And we just kind of... go like that.

It's gorgeous, but it's a bitch. That's why I don't want biological kids. My mom had cancer. My grandma had cancer. The crazy comes down on both sides. Would the goddamn condom have really been that fucking hard? WTF is wrong with my parents?

They've identified the genes that mutate with mine. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me though. And this type of cancer can turn into an acute type where the treatment then is even worse. Anyway, I had a fuck it moment a few years back when I got fed up with the subject. I usually ignore it til I see someone mention it on Lit. Mike's always good about bringing the subject up.

 

[CandiCame]

They've identified the genes that mutate with mine. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me though. And this type of cancer can turn into an acute type where the treatment then is even worse. Anyway, I had a fuck it moment a few years back when I got fed up with the subject. I usually ignore it til I see someone mention it on Lit. Mike's always good about bringing the subject up.

He is. Among other things.

That whole, "Can turn even worse" thing sounds like a pain in the ass.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Extremely few people survive cancer, maybe 15% or 20% of them.

And even if they do, it almost always comes back years later to kill you.

According to American Cancer Society statistics, approximately 1 in every 3 people in the entire population (one third) will develop some form of cancer within their lifetime.

You do the math.

 

[CandiCame]

Extremely few people survive cancer, maybe 15% or 20% of them.

And even if they do, it almost always comes back years later to kill you.

According to American Cancer Society statistics, approximately 1 in every 3 people in the entire population (one third) will develop some form of cancer within their lifetime.

You do the math.

Eh, the pesticides in my salad, the hormones in my meat, or my own body.

 

[LadyVer]

He is. Among other things.

That whole, "Can turn even worse" thing sounds like a pain in the ass.

Yeah. I had a brain fart...the term for it is transform. duh...

 

[LadyVer]

Extremely few people survive cancer, maybe 15% or 20% of them.

And even if they do, it almost always comes back years later to kill you.

According to American Cancer Society statistics, approximately 1 in every 3 people in the entire population (one third) will develop some form of cancer within their lifetime.

You do the math.

The one out of three is not really new, but more people are living longer today with cancer. Unfortunately, not everyone has healthcare access. It's kind of a weird irony. The U.S. has the most expensive healthcare in the world because of technology, research, and competition, but many Americans can't afford the healthcare they need, even with health insurance.