Siren, you are definately not the only one who thinks that. On 9-11,when the first mention of it was made, I cried because I felt like the government is ready to enclose us all inside barb-wire fencing. The feelings get stronger every time I hear it.
We are already having enough of our freedoms taken away. I hate the thought of more being taken every time we turn around.
Yup,
I think I am going to have to agree on this one. Homeland security is very nazi like. Its like taking something from someone when they are vulnerable.
I don't mean to down play your concerns with humour here - but whenever I think of "Homeland Security" I think of the British comedy show "Dad's Army"... Basically, a show based on Britain's efforts during WWII - those who couldn't serve on the front lines - served at home. Bloody funny - and a tad scary too.
It is less the sound of the phrase that makes me cringe than the legislation and hyperbole that goes with it that really bothers me. Bovine Fecal Matter by any other name smells just as putrid.
After the First World War former senior officers in the German Army began raising private armies called Freikorps. These were used to defend the German borders against the possibility of invasion from the Red Army. Later they were used against attempts at revolution in Germany.
is zee funny accentz and zee self-righteous attitude zat goes with it.
Zis iz fur de guud of de Country, vezzer it van'tz it or not, and vezzer it is conztitutional or not.
Quvick close zee borderz and plant zee landmines along zem, vee don't van't dem damn zouthenerz or dem damn nordenerz crozzing into our homeland and bringing zer damn familyz vitt zeem.
At least when you visited the old Eastern block countries you were aware (or were stupidly ignorant) that you were entering a repressive régimes territory, here you are entering the land of the free, or not (if you are smart enough to know where to look).
"Strategery"
"Weapons of mass destruction"
"Our cause is just"
"Let's Roll"
"Axis of Evil"
"my friend, Ted Kennedy"
"coverage for prescription drugs"
"effective missile defenses "
"ensure our nation's security"
"sound tax policy'
"over my dead body"
"character "
"evil"
Actually, these days it is just about anything crossing George Bush's fraudulently taught tight lips.
I'm just here to "bookmark" this thread so I can "bump" it up when (and hopefully, if) we are attacked again.
I can be pretty sure no person who has posted on this thread (with the possible exception of miles) will bump it up at that time.
I keep hearing about all the "civil rights" we have "given up" in exchange for security. I just can't seem to identify which civil rights those are, or which new policy has taken away any of our civil rights. Even after rereading the thread twice, I can't find any "rights" that have been given up by efforts to improve security.
I just think some people hear the term "homeland" and allow their politically motivated bias to transpose the term to "motherland".
It's the term Homeland Security that gives me the creeps, you're right about that. And the fact that what's-his-name looks like the red neck version of a nazi...
Of course, being a Missourian, I fear Ashcroft too. Maybe the office wouldn't bother me that much if ol Johnny wasn't out there in Washington, I don't know.
Here's a question though, what exactly is the job description?
For example, the FBI arrested as a material witness the San Antonio radiologist Albader Al-Hazmi, who has a name like two of the hijackers, and who tried to book a flight to San Diego for a medical conference. According to his lawyer, the government held Al-Hazmi incommunicado after his arrest, and it took six days for lawyers to get access to him.
New powers passed by congress include near-blanket rights to wiretap any communications device used by a person in any way connected to a suspected terrorist; the power to detain indefinitely an immigrant connected to an act of terrorism; and the classification of any computer hacking crime as a terrorist offense.
So, yes search and seizure, freedom of speech, to name a few.