butters
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alleged putin assassination attempt
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ll74
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There has been some public push back by some in Russia recently. Add to that, troops literally just up and leaving the battlefield....he has such a strangelhold on the country, but maybe the tide is turning?
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022...eputies-petition-for-putin-resignation-a78768
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022...eputies-petition-for-putin-resignation-a78768
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Most likely....the noise can be explained by a car backfiring...or a nearby construction site. Putin will use the noise to explain why he is about to start arresting people questioning his actions. Hell, I wouldn't put it beyond him doing it to himself
I think that Russians are calling upon Putin's resignation
-- for his Internal conduct -- his totalitarianism-recent 'suicides', incompetent conduct of the war leading to economic and human losses on both sides
-- and NOT because he started the war with Ukraine.
If I were Russian, I WOULD AGREE WITH A WELL-CONDUCTED WAR
NATO and a West-armed Ukraine were starting to amass militarily at it's borders + cut it's coastal trade.
Indeed, what's good for Russia is dangerous and bad for all it's neighbors
but it's mind-boggling that the West is expecting an entire populus to act Against it's own safety and economic interests,
because morality and Western belly rubs,
NorCalLoki
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It's only a matter of time before Putin ingests some Thallium or Ricin and is never seen from again.
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Yes, they are publicly framing their call around a separate issue.
Gorbachev fell for that:
He got smitten by Western belly rubs, and ended up being their useful idiot.
As necessary as a reform was for Russia's economy at the time,
Perestroika /the 1989-1990 orchestrated uprisings actually ended up benefiting the West and the rest of Eastern Europe, Not Russians.
It's not just corruption/totalitarianism that led to Russia's post-1990 downfall.
Gorbachev did too.
As much as Russians feel oppressed (because they do) by Putin's totalitarian regime
they understandably prefer him to a Western puppet regime.
He got smitten by Western belly rubs, and ended up being their useful idiot.
As necessary as a reform was for Russia's economy at the time,
Perestroika /the 1989-1990 orchestrated uprisings actually ended up benefiting the West and the rest of Eastern Europe, Not Russians.
It's not just corruption/totalitarianism that led to Russia's post-1990 downfall.
Gorbachev did too.
As much as Russians feel oppressed (because they do) by Putin's totalitarian regime
they understandably prefer him to a Western puppet regime.
LukSkyFokker
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I don't believe it. You're putin me on.
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Bullshit. 100% bullshit. Did the Ukraine start their buildup before Russia stole Crimea? No. Fascist like you support Fascists everywhere.
Read post-ww2 History,
and you'll see that BOTH Russia and Ukraine are entitled.
They have no issue with keeping territories that Russia sliced from Ukraine's neighbors, illegally incorporated into Ukraine and forcibly russified-ukrainised
yet they feel victimized over a piece of rock, which historically belonged neither to Ukrainians nor to Russians.
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‘a loud bang sounded from the left front wheel’ before ‘heavy smoke’ billowed out.
given the placing of the obstructive ambulance, which broke up the 5-car convoy, and what might be seen as the attempt to disable the vehicle's mobility, this may be less of a direct assassination attempt and more of a kidnapping (which might then lead to his assassination)
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But Russia guaranteed Ukraine's borders, including Crimea, when an agreement was reached for Ukraine to give Russia the nuclear weapons that they had.
Russia, in their invasion of Crimea and their support for the separatists in the East broke their guarantee.
According to some, both sides are wankers:
"Moscow solidified its hold on Crimea in April, outlawing the Tatar legislature that had opposed Russia’s annexation of the region since 2014. Together with Russian military provocations against NATO forces in and around the Baltic, this move [....] validate the observations of Western analysts who argue that under Vladimir Putin, an increasingly aggressive Russia is determined to dominate its neighbors and menace Europe.
Leaders in Moscow, however, tell a different story. For them, Russia is the aggrieved party.
They claim the United States has failed to uphold a promise that NATO would not expand into Eastern Europe, a deal made during the 1990 negotiations between the West and the Soviet Union over German unification. In this view, Russia is being forced to forestall NATO’s eastward march as a matter of self-defense.
The West has vigorously protested that no such deal was ever struck. However, hundreds of memos, meeting minutes and transcripts from U.S. archives indicate otherwise."
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html
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Decline in the quality of assassins too? Where does the madness end?
I feel like throwing up....
Russel Brand just said that in April, Zelensky#y was trying peace-cease fire talks with Russia.
But Boris fucking Johnson flew to Kiev to pressure Zelensky into ditching peace talks.
Now Russel Brand isn't the best source, but I researched it and it came from Ukrainian -not Russian- sources.
Russel Brand just said that in April, Zelensky#y was trying peace-cease fire talks with Russia.
But Boris fucking Johnson flew to Kiev to pressure Zelensky into ditching peace talks.
Now Russel Brand isn't the best source, but I researched it and it came from Ukrainian -not Russian- sources.
ll74
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The talks weren't going anywhere and at the time Russia had more leverage and less likely to budge on giving up half of Ukraine.
I don't like Johnson, but I also doubt he was the singular reason that the talks fell through.
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Stop looking in the mirror and take a bath.
This is why I stopped reading Western massmedia to inform myself about the war.
Apparently Russian Liberals and anti-war groups AREN'T Putin's biggest threat.
Putin is facing threats from adversaries on the Right, who are complaining that Putin isn't sacrificing more of Russian assets in this war.
When Putin named this war "a special operation", he wasn't aiming to create a better impression for the West. He was trying to tell Russians that their life will carry on as usual
-- that he'll use only 200.000 out of the 3 million soldiers, while lay Russians will continue building infrastructure carrying life as usual etc---
Putin is currently being heavily criticized by nationalists, that he's not putting more of Russia in this war.
And Russian laypeople are far less impacted by the war, than Western propaganda is claiming.
Apparently Russian Liberals and anti-war groups AREN'T Putin's biggest threat.
Putin is facing threats from adversaries on the Right, who are complaining that Putin isn't sacrificing more of Russian assets in this war.
When Putin named this war "a special operation", he wasn't aiming to create a better impression for the West. He was trying to tell Russians that their life will carry on as usual
-- that he'll use only 200.000 out of the 3 million soldiers, while lay Russians will continue building infrastructure carrying life as usual etc---
Putin is currently being heavily criticized by nationalists, that he's not putting more of Russia in this war.
And Russian laypeople are far less impacted by the war, than Western propaganda is claiming.
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Hate to say it, but it could be the only solution for the Russian people who are suffering as much as anyone with this guy in power.
You people are among the very few remaining Westerners still being manipulated by Western Massmedia propaganda.
For Russia, this war is half imperialism,
half about their own survival
in front of NATO's long-term goal to dismember Russian Federation, via Ukraine.
It will go on until AMERICANS back down. Not Russians.
For Russia, this war is half imperialism,
half about their own survival
in front of NATO's long-term goal to dismember Russian Federation, via Ukraine.
It will go on until AMERICANS back down. Not Russians.
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