All The Reasons Why Electric Vehicles Are Not The Answer

[Rightguide]

Electric Vehicles: Not a Deal for You or the Environment​

BY ANNE JOHNSON TIMEJULY 27, 2022

Used cars cost more than ever, but there is an exception to this. Used electric vehicles (EVs) may appear to be a bargain in today’s used car market.

A woman in Florida purchased a used 2014 Ford Focus Electric for $11,000. It had 60,000 miles on it. After driving it a few months, lights started flashing on the dashboard—this indicated a problem with the battery. Her battery needed to be replaced. But the replacement was $14,000. The battery was worth more than the car.

Electric vehicles have lithium batteries. These batteries have a finite lifespan. How long will a lithium battery last, and what is a replacement’s cost? Further, what happens to that battery when it’s depleted? All these factors will influence whether you—and the environment—are really getting a deal on that electric vehicle.

How Long Do EV Batteries Last?​

Lithium batteries don’t last decades. There’s much debate about exactly how long an EV battery will last. Some manufacturers claim 200,000 plus miles. But the actual number isn’t known or at least confirmed. It’s mostly speculation based on empirical knowledge.

Electric vehicle batteries have improved. The early EVs were notorious for short-lived batteries. For instance, batteries for the first-generation Nissan Leaf, a competitively priced EV, lasted 100,000 to 150,000 miles. So, if you’re eyeing that used Leaf, you might want to check the mileage. Indeed, if you’re in the market for any used EV—buyer beware. That battery may be at the end of its life.

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[ll74]

There are no actual reasons. There are just people who refuse to acknowledge global warming flailing their arms who have no.valid alternative and are likely still believing theres a thing called "clean coal"

 

[oggbashan]

Newer EVs have increased mileage per charge and better battery life.

But they are expensive compared with conventional cars and at least in the UK charging points need to be dramatically increased.

 

[ll74]

These same fuckers were the type that made up shit to bitch about when cars replaced horses.

 

[iso36]

II74 has owned electric cars for years!

 

[oggbashan]

These same fuckers were the type that made up shit to bitch about when cars replaced horses.

And during the second world war in the UK with very restricted availability of petrol (Gas in the US), the price of horses and ponies increased massively, proving the doubters right.

 

[oggbashan]

These same fuckers were the type that made up shit to bitch about when cars replaced horses.

And during the second world war in the UK with very restricted availability of petrol (Gas in the US), the price of horses and ponies increased massively, proving the doubters right.

 

[oggbashan]

The carbon emissions used in the construction of electric cars. particularly the batteries, exceed that for a conventional car, and unless they last as long or longer, that emission is never repaid...

 

[Rightguide]

Epoch Times… really? That’s scraping the internet barrel.

Electric cars are a boondoggle.

I much prefer the 150mpg water injection carb.

No it isn't. Facts are the facts no matter who is reporting them. I challenge anyone to refute their facts.

 

[ll74]

No it isn't. Facts are the facts no matter who is reporting them. I challenge anyone to refute their facts.

Facts and opinions aren't the same thing - Epoch is using speculation and hyperbole, which aren't factual.

From your quoted article:

It’s mostly speculation based on empirical knowledge.

 

[Rightguide]

Do you wear their t shirts?

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No, and being anti-Communist doesn't make them Nazis either. It was the CCP that burned their printing operation down in Hong Kong. Do you side with the CCP?

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Electric Vehicles: Not a Deal for You or the Environment​

BY ANNE JOHNSON TIMEJULY 27, 2022

Used cars cost more than ever, but there is an exception to this. Used electric vehicles (EVs) may appear to be a bargain in today’s used car market.

A woman in Florida purchased a used 2014 Ford Focus Electric for $11,000. It had 60,000 miles on it. After driving it a few months, lights started flashing on the dashboard—this indicated a problem with the battery. Her battery needed to be replaced. But the replacement was $14,000. The battery was worth more than the car.

Electric vehicles have lithium batteries. These batteries have a finite lifespan. How long will a lithium battery last, and what is a replacement’s cost? Further, what happens to that battery when it’s depleted? All these factors will influence whether you—and the environment—are really getting a deal on that electric vehicle.

How Long Do EV Batteries Last?​

Lithium batteries don’t last decades. There’s much debate about exactly how long an EV battery will last. Some manufacturers claim 200,000 plus miles. But the actual number isn’t known or at least confirmed. It’s mostly speculation based on empirical knowledge.

Electric vehicle batteries have improved. The early EVs were notorious for short-lived batteries. For instance, batteries for the first-generation Nissan Leaf, a competitively priced EV, lasted 100,000 to 150,000 miles. So, if you’re eyeing that used Leaf, you might want to check the mileage. Indeed, if you’re in the market for any used EV—buyer beware. That battery may be at the end of its life.

The rest of it here:https://www.theepochtimes.com/elect...utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport

Dude, I'm sure that you agree with me that we should get rid of all of these mechanical contraptions and return to horses.

 

[Rightguide]

Electric Vehicles Are Not The Answer​

What was the Question?

How will we replace our evil gas-powered cars?

 

[Rightguide]

No need to. Raise the CAFE to 150mpg and put better cats on them.

Before we drive up the cost of new cars above what Americans can afford and crash our economy. Let's tell the rest of the world to do more than we are to clean up the environment. Especially the environmental shitholes in Africa, India, and Asia.

 

[Rightguide]

Sure, but the fact remains that the tech exists now to make cars that get 150mpg.

Instead, Americans want and buy 500hp pickup trucks that never carry anything just so they can pretend they are cowboys.

It’s stupid on a stick.

No, it's the machinery of freedom at work. It's the American people voting with their own money as they please on things they want to be produced, without others telling them what will be produced and what will not be produced. After all, it's the market that should decide what will be produced, how much will be produced, and how much it will cost, not the government, who really has no constitutional authority to mandate cars get 150 mph.

 

[iso36]

No, it's the machinery of freedom at work. It's the American people voting with their own money as they please on things they want to be produced, without others telling them what will be produced and what will not be produced. After all, it's the market that should decide what will be produced, how much will be produced, and how much it will cost, not the government, who really has no constitutional authority to mandate cars get 150 mph.

All completely true.

Too bad. But true. Fuck nature!

 

[lovecraft68]

Sure, but the fact remains that the tech exists now to make cars that get 150mpg.

Instead, Americans want and buy 500hp pickup trucks that never carry anything just so they can pretend they are cowboys.

It’s stupid on a stick.

Its not about being a cowboy its over compensating for having a needle dick.
I love how now these penis extensions have the back up assist and drive themselves so Mr. Look at my truck, doesn't have to ver prove he can handle it.
If you need something like that for work, that's one thing, but most of the guys I see in these think off roading is when they go up on the curb

 

[lovecraft68]

The electric part of electric cars is a minor detail. That fad will pass, while driving becomes more expensive and done by fewer people. Walking or riding a bus is an admission of being poor, so most drivers will delay that as long as possible.

Depends where you live, a lot of people in NYC and Boston use public transportation because driving and parking are nightmares.
In Boston, my wife's godfather was paying $600 a month for a parking spot in the lot across the street because few houses in the North End and other areas even have driveways.

When my wife moved to RI her first impression was holy shit, there's parking everywhere.

 

[phrodeau]

Was that all the reasons? Because there’s only one so far.

 

[QueequegsHead]

II74 has owned electric cars for years!

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Okay.

I laughed.

I am a very bad man.

 

[QueequegsHead]

The electric part of electric cars is a minor detail. That fad will pass, while driving becomes more expensive and done by fewer people. Walking or riding a bus is an admission of being poor, so most drivers will delay that as long as possible.

I live over ten miles from town.
There is no bus.
I'm not poor.

Magic Carpet Ride?

 

[ishtat]

The technology of battery manufacturing will improve but the big change will be when Batteries and cars are sold/leased separately. The different servicing requirements will also be radically altered with Dealerships becoming ancient methodology. New market organization will be just as important as new technology. Some old companies will have to majorly reform themselves or die.

 

[QueequegsHead]

I'm more concerned about what the batteries are made of, where the raw material comes from, how it is extracted, processed, manufactured and disposed of.

 

[Chobham]

I'm more concerned about what the batteries are made of, where the raw material comes from, how it is extracted, processed, manufactured and disposed of.

I'll throw one more concern in. We still have no way of efficiently recycling the damn things. They are a witches brew of carcinogens and heavy metals.

 

[ll74]

I'll throw one more concern in. We still have no way of efficiently recycling the damn things. They are a witches brew of carcinogens and heavy metals.

This is a very good point. Batteries in general haven't improved well enough yet