"All men pay for sex"...

[Riles]

You're basically giving the definition of selfishness.

Do I believe that people can act without selfishness? Absolutely.

Got an example?

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

Got an example?

i think i understand where you coming from. basically every course of action has a reaction so in effect we do nothing without reaping a benefit which is true. what Richard is looking at is the mind set of the originator of that course of action.

philosophically i feel Riles is correct though the originator may not be seeking a reaction none the less there is bound to be one even if it is as small as just making you feel good about the doing.

 

[Riles]

i think i understand where you coming from. basically every course of action has a reaction so in effect we do nothing without reaping a benefit which is true. what Richard is looking at is the mind set of the originator of that course of action.

philosophically i feel Riles is correct though the originator may not be seeking a reaction none the less there is bound to be one even if it is as small as just making you feel good about the doing.

Thank you, YES!

I should have just looked to you to pretty up my words for me.

 

[richard_daily]

I hope not. This why I am voting for Santorum. The investment sex market will skyrocket. He'll create an artificial sex shortage crisis and make even more tax breaks for the rich.

I'll be able to mop up and then sell the mop on fetsy, my fetish merchandise websites.

Fetsy.com is not registered, you'd better bounce on that...

 

[richard_daily]

Got an example?

Of an unselfish act?

Serving food to the homeless, walking an elderly person across the street, stopping your car in a non-cross walk area to let someone cross, "random PM day" on here, etc etc...

These are just small examples, but again, if you can't fathom an unselfish act, that speaks to your philosophy. That's not an insult, just a comment on where you're obviously coming from.

i think i understand where you coming from. basically every course of action has a reaction so in effect we do nothing without reaping a benefit which is true. what Richard is looking at is the mind set of the originator of that course of action.

philosophically i feel Riles is correct though the originator may not be seeking a reaction none the less there is bound to be one even if it is as small as just making you feel good about the doing.

I understand what she's saying, I disagree with it.

 

[Riles]

Of an unselfish act?

Serving food to the homeless, walking an elderly person across the street, stopping your car in a non-cross walk area to let someone cross, "random PM day" on here, etc etc...

These are just small examples, but again, if you can't fathom an unselfish act, that speaks to your philosophy. That's not an insult, just a comment on where you're obviously coming from.

I understand what she's saying, I disagree with it.

So....after such a deed you feel what?

 

[richard_daily]

So....after such a deed you feel what?

Ranging from indifference to "I'm glad I helped that person". My feeling has nothing to do with it. I don't do it to feel a certain way, I do it because I don't always act selfishly. I'm not saying I ALWAYS act out of selflessness, but claiming that no one ever does, that's your prerogative to have that perspective. As I said, I disagree with it.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

Of an unselfish act?

Serving food to the homeless, walking an elderly person across the street, stopping your car in a non-cross walk area to let someone cross, "random PM day" on here, etc etc...

These are just small examples, but again, if you can't fathom an unselfish act, that speaks to your philosophy. That's not an insult, just a comment on where you're obviously coming from.



I understand what she's saying, I disagree with it.

i think she is confusing reaping a benefit with selfless acts. every act we commit gets a a reaction hopefully for the good. just because the person reaps a benefit does not make his act selfless.

Example: joe smith is walking down the street and observes an old lady getting mugged. in a reaction without thought he comes to her aid protecting her from harm. this man acted without conscious thought without thought of recompense or fame. as a result his name is in the paper, he gets an award and regarded a hero.

though he reaped a benefit his act was one of selfless courage in behalf of another. so in retrospect unselfish acts do exist.

a world where unselfish acts do not exist would not be worth living. Riles you are much to young to be so jaded. leave that up to vette

 

[richard_daily]

i think she is confusing reaping a benefit with selfless acts. every act we commit gets a a reaction hopefully for the good. just because the person reaps a benefit does not make his act selfless.

Example: joe smith is walking down the street and observes an old lady getting mugged. in a reaction without thought he comes to her aid protecting her from harm. this man acted without conscious thought without thought of recompense or fame. as a result his name is in the paper, he gets an award and regarded a hero.

though he reaped a benefit his act was one of selfless courage in behalf of another. so in retrospect unselfish acts do exist.

a world where unselfish acts do not exist would not be worth living. Riles you are much to young to be so jaded. leave that up to vette

I was on tour with a band some *ahem* years ago, and we stopped in a rest stop, and were walking back to it after getting some snacks. There was a guy who was having a seizure in his car, but the woman who he was with, was not able to get him out of his seatbelt, and from what I found out later, he was choking on his tongue. I have no formal training, but I ran over and helped her get him out, and onto the ground, and helped her (and him) through the ordeal. She basically told me what she needed me to do, and I did it. At the end, she gave me a sincere thanks, and I got back in the car, and we drove off.

I didn't come to their aid with any sort of heroic intent. I reacted selflessly. How I felt afterwards was that I might have potentially saved that dudes life, and that did indeed feel good, but in the moment, nothing of the sort was in my mind.

I think that's a pretty good example.

 

[Riles]

i think she is confusing reaping a benefit with selfless acts. every act we commit gets a a reaction hopefully for the good. just because the person reaps a benefit does not make his act selfless.

Example: joe smith is walking down the street and observes an old lady getting mugged. in a reaction without thought he comes to her aid protecting her from harm. this man acted without conscious thought without thought of recompense or fame. as a result his name is in the paper, he gets an award and regarded a hero.

though he reaped a benefit his act was one of selfless courage in behalf of another. so in retrospect unselfish acts do exist.

a world where unselfish acts do not exist would not be worth living. Riles you are much to young to be so jaded. leave that up to vette

I'm not jaded, and I'm certainly not cold and ungiving. But I know going into virtually every act that I will feel a certain way either right after or eventually, once the emotion or action is reciprocated. Though knowledge of this does not always influence my actions.

And I believe I admitted to using the wrong wording in 'selfishness' somewhere back in those pages, but I was told I was describing it exactly.

-shrug-

I'm not interested in flogging a dead horse. The arguement is pointless and likely being continued by some just for the pleasure of being contrary.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

I was on tour with a band some *ahem* years ago, and we stopped in a rest stop, and were walking back to it after getting some snacks. There was a guy who was having a seizure in his car, but the woman who he was with, was not able to get him out of his seatbelt, and from what I found out later, he was choking on his tongue. I have no formal training, but I ran over and helped her get him out, and onto the ground, and helped her (and him) through the ordeal. She basically told me what she needed me to do, and I did it. At the end, she gave me a sincere thanks, and I got back in the car, and we drove off.

I didn't come to their aid with any sort of heroic intent. I reacted selflessly. How I felt afterwards was that I might have potentially saved that dudes life, and that did indeed feel good, but in the moment, nothing of the sort was in my mind.

I think that's a pretty good example.

agreed

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

I'm not jaded, and I'm certainly not cold and ungiving. But I know going into virtually every act that I will feel a certain way either right after or eventually, once the emotion or action is reciprocated.

And I believe I admitted to using the wrong wording in 'selfishness' somewhere back in those pages, but I was told I was describing it exactly.

-shrug-

I'm not interested in flogging a dead horse. The arguement is pointless and likely being continued by some just for the pleasure of being contrary.

would you consider flogging me instead?

 

[Riles]

would you consider flogging me instead?

If it would put an end to what now feels like a very tedious way to spend my few free hours today?

....Most emphatically, yes!

 

[Liar]

you realize those rates are in British pounds yes?

You may find it hard to swallow but you're not the only person on this board with a well paying gig. I can't splurge 2-3k Sterling every weekend, but now and then wouldn't be a problem. My surplus goes into other hobbies though.

And I know the business well enough. A friend of mine did the escort thing in London for a while, and I got to know a select bunch of other ladies through her. Never used their services though. First of all, I was and am spoken for, and get all the hiney I can handle from there. Second of all, I don't do business with friends. It's a principle.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

You may find it hard to swallow but you're not the only person on this board with a well paying gig. I can't splurge 2-3k Sterling every weekend, but now and then wouldn't be a problem. My surplus goes into other hobbies though.

And I know the business well enough. A friend of mine did the escort thing in London for a while, and I got to know a select bunch of other ladies through her. Never used their services though. First of all, I was and am spoken for, and get all the hiney I can handle from there. Second of all, I don't do business with friends. It's a principle.

i never said i was.

800 bucks an hour is a lot of money regardless of income

 

[richard_daily]

i never said i was.

800 bucks an hour is a lot of money regardless of income

To some people, that's definitely not a lot of money.

 

[bronzeage]

To some people, that's definitely not a lot of money.

A Yugo will get you just as far as a Farrarri. After a certain point, you're not paying for the sex. You're paying for the experience.

 

[richard_daily]

A Yugo will get you just as far as a Farrarri. After a certain point, you're not paying for the sex. You're paying for the experience.

The thing about having a fancy car; you attract lots of vapid women who want you for your money.

You know you're the shit when you can pick up ladies in a Yugo.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

To some people, that's definitely not a lot of money.

true. i make good loot especially since i pay no taxes in Dubai but still 800 bucks an hour is a lot of money. i do not use escorts all the time or i would be a pauper. They give me the GFE but i give them the BFE which is why i get treated well. i do not treat them like a whore or servant.

The thing about having a fancy car; you attract lots of vapid women who want you for your money.

You know you're the shit when you can pick up ladies in a Yugo.

i rarely drive in Dubai. i usually use a car service and the company provides me car service back and forth from the airport.

 

[richard_daily]

true. i make good loot especially since i pay no taxes in Dubai but still 800 bucks an hour is a lot of money. i do not use escorts all the time or i would be a pauper. They give me the GFE but i give them the BFE which is why i get treated well. i do not treat them like a whore or servant.

It's interesting to hear about, but I can't imagine ever paying a woman for spending time with me. That's not a knock on you at all. It sounds like you're pretty happy and well-adjusted with how you handle your (monkey) business...

Have you ever ended up dating a woman who you've hired?

 

[richard_daily]

I just saw that xhamster has free web cams...

 

[KRCummings]

Everything I do is carefully calculated to give me the highest possible reward. I don't answer the phone without working out how it will benefit me the most. Some might call that selfish. I call it awesome.

 

[Freija]

Every so often, this thread reads like Atlas Shrugged. Sort of.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Every so often, this thread reads like Atlas Shrugged. Sort of.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RmsoUYOh5Ak/Tx7K8aL_b5I/AAAAAAAAAW0/Y5v4MlpYdzg/s1600/Bob_the_Angry_Flower_Atlas_Shrugged_Part_2_comic_strip.gif

 

[Freija]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RmsoUYOh5Ak/Tx7K8aL_b5I/AAAAAAAAAW0/Y5v4MlpYdzg/s1600/Bob_the_Angry_Flower_Atlas_Shrugged_Part_2_comic_strip.gif

Damn, this could have saved a lot of page-turns.